What goes on the end of this?

26th July 2009, 16:21

In the middle of a vts conversion at the moment. The engine is in, just a case now of connecting all of the relevant bits and pieces up..

Have spotted this though..

What goes on the end of it or where does it lead to etc?

Any help would be great, cheers.

26th July 2009, 16:25

its the EGR thingy goes like this

not my pic btw

26th July 2009, 16:28

Im not too sure, but can the EGR just be removed, By using a blanking plate. Not sure if its of much use as earlier engines came without them i though.

27th July 2009, 11:27

I havnt got this on my 1997 mk1 VTS and was also wondring what this was.

27th July 2009, 11:31

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...&highlight=EGR check this thread

27th July 2009, 11:47

Ah right, had a good read of that, cheers..

Is it worth blanking it off then? As I have found the relevent tubing for it now..?

27th July 2009, 11:58

not sure m8, mines was like that wen i got it, dont think it affects th car to be honest., ive not even got a blanking piece im sure.

27th July 2009, 11:59

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Originally Posted by picklesayrshire

not sure m8, mines was like that wen i got it, dont think it affects th car to be honest., ive not even got a blanking piece im sure.

Oh really! What comes out of it then if it's not blanked off?!

27th July 2009, 12:32

anyone shed any more light on this?

27th July 2009, 12:44

The tubing connects to a fresh air pump in the passenger side wheel arch. If you didn't get the pump etc. with the engine, I'd just remove the whole lot and get a blanking plate for it.

27th July 2009, 12:55

Are there any advantages/disadvantages of removing the whole lot mate?

27th July 2009, 13:00

just take it off! dont need it.

All it does is pump fresh air into the car on start up and now and then during driving.
IT has a metal pipe from the passenger side of it, going into the side of the engine.

Then the drivers side, has a silicone hose which runs across the back of the slam panel above the rad, to a pump which you will have to install if you want it and have the wiring for it, that sits behind the arch liner.

But as said, just take it off the head, and blank the hole off on the side of the block. I made my own blanking plate out of some aly and used gasket paste to seal it, theres a photo of my pikeyness in my progress thread.

27th July 2009, 13:21

if you have all the relevant piping why fuck on blanking it off? It doesnt appear to aid or detract from performance so just fit the piping.

27th July 2009, 14:36

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Originally Posted by JRC1

Oh really! What comes out of it then if it's not blanked off?!

why u getin wide dickhead, your maws stinking cum after av whaled her

27th July 2009, 15:34

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Originally Posted by picklesayrshire

why u getin wide dickhead, your maws stinking cum after av whaled her

Excuse me?

27th July 2009, 15:36

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Originally Posted by saxo_ron

if you have all the relevant piping why fuck on blanking it off? It doesnt appear to aid or detract from performance so just fit the piping.

Well I didn't know if it aided performance or not hence why I asked..

In the link provided in this thread, people are saying that it helps performance..

27th July 2009, 16:12

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Originally Posted by JRC1

Excuse me?

soz m8 thought u wr taking the piss, im only trying to help, thik mines has been welded at the manifold now on closer inspection.

27th July 2009, 16:24

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Originally Posted by JRC1

Well I didn't know if it aided performance or not hence why I asked..

In the link provided in this thread, people are saying that it helps performance..

because the pump drains power from the battery, and the engine uses power to produce that energy

It is only on for a few seconds on start up and kicks in now and then while driving.......

I took mine off for weight saving and performance reasons.

Totally and utterly pointless if you have a de catted the car aswel.

There is a lad on here who used to sell the blanking plate, or you can modify the one wher ethe silver metal pipe goes.

27th July 2009, 16:24

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Originally Posted by picklesayrshire

soz m8 thought u wr taking the piss, im only trying to help, thik mines has been welded at the manifold now on closer inspection.

Oh right.. Didn't mean for it to come across that way.. Maybe I shouldn't have used an exclamation mark lol..

Ok fair enough, may have to look into it a bit more.. Seeing as I have all the relevant bits and pieces it makes sense to try and connect it all up. At least now I know that if I don't have everything, it doesn't matter because I can just blank it off

27th July 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

because the pump drains power from the battery, and the engine uses power to produce that energy

It is only on for a few seconds on start up and kicks in now and then while driving.......

I took mine off for weight saving and performance reasons.

Totally and utterly pointless if you have a de catted the car aswel.

Ah right ok, so you recommend taking it all off together? Is it just as simple as blanking the metal plug thing that can be seen in the first picture? Or do I have to take something else off?

Thanks.

27th July 2009, 16:39

take the valve off the head, its 2 10mm hex head bolts holding it on, if you look on the passenger side of the head you will see something like this.

before the pump is taken off

Taken off.

Home made blanking plate.

Where it goes.

In place

27th July 2009, 16:42

if you havnt got the pump, its useless anyway so take it off.

Obvious really lol

27th July 2009, 17:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

take the valve off the head, its 2 10mm hex head bolts holding it on, if you look on the passenger side of the head you will see something like this.

before the pump is taken off

Taken off.

Home made blanking plate.

Where it goes.

In place

after seeing the last pic i can remember i have a hose goin into that hole but further up on the had on the right hand side is another hole which has just been left open see picture called breather pipes on this link http://s721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/ccairney/.
i take it i should put 1 of these breather filters on as i believe it should be attached to the airbox which has been removed.

27th July 2009, 17:20

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Originally Posted by picklesayrshire

after seeing the last pic i can remember i have a hose goin into that hole but further up on the had on the right hand side is another hole which has just been left open see picture called breather pipes on this link http://s721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/ccairney/.
i take it i should put 1 of these breather filters on as i believe it should be attached to the airbox which has been removed.

yeah you need a breather filter on it, unless your using the standard intake then it just plumbs directly into the air box.

the lower down circled hole, doesnt look like its been opened up, as though the heads from a single plug engine. i cant see the drilled holes for the bolts.

27th July 2009, 17:31

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Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

yeah you need a breather filter on it, unless your using the standard intake then it just plumbs directly into the air box.

the lower down circled hole, doesnt look like its been opened up, as though the heads from a single plug engine. i cant see the drilled holes for the bolts.

yeah it is a single plug engine, does this mean all the difference. so should i blank off the lower hole circled and get a breather on the top 1, would this have caused any issues by any chance.

27th July 2009, 17:50

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Originally Posted by picklesayrshire

yeah it is a single plug engine, does this mean all the difference. so should i blank off the lower hole circled and get a breather on the top 1, would this have caused any issues by any chance.

if its a single plug engine the hole isnt drilled out so there isnt nothing to blank lol

but the top hole yes get a breather pipe on it.

27th July 2009, 21:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRC1

Well I didn't know if it aided performance or not hence why I asked..

In the link provided in this thread, people are saying that it helps performance..

I wasnt being funny or owt mate, just being honest, if you have the bits fit them, if in time you so wish remove it.

27th July 2009, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

if its a single plug engine the hole isnt drilled out so there isnt nothing to blank lol

but the top hole yes get a breather pipe on it.

yeah but didnt u c ma pic on photobucket, it has this hole but has a pipe coming out of itwhich runs down the front of the block im sure, The engines been rebuilt supposedly but i think he was talkin shit, fucked about with more like.

27th July 2009, 21:58

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Originally Posted by saxo_ron

I wasnt being funny or owt mate, just being honest, if you have the bits fit them, if in time you so wish remove it.

Nah, I know you weren't mate

Yeah, i've got all the bits so not sure what to do now, especially after seeing the pics posted up the top of this page. Looks alot neater without it there and the blanking plate looks easy to make...

I'll have a think.

Cheers for everyones input

27th July 2009, 22:46

Did you get the pump with the engine? I'm pretty sure this is it in the passenger side wheel arch.

27th July 2009, 22:51

Yeah got the pump mate. Cheers for the handy pic! I'll print it off

27th July 2009, 22:52

Ah right, no worries. Give me a shout if you need any more pictures.

27th July 2009, 23:11

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Originally Posted by LeeumH

Ah right, no worries. Give me a shout if you need any more pictures.

Will do mate, cheers

27th July 2009, 23:21

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Originally Posted by LeeumH

Did you get the pump with the engine? I'm pretty sure this is it in the passenger side wheel arch.

u got a pic of the top of the transmission m8, looking for a sensor, possibly reverse light.

28th July 2009, 12:02

leave it off imo...

Mine felt to rev a bit better with it off, and engine note changed aswel, sounded a bit deeper.

29th July 2009, 16:02

A blanking plate will cost you £1..literally.
A £1 coin fits perfectly into the hole.

29th July 2009, 16:10

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Originally Posted by savo

A blanking plate will cost you £1..literally.
A £1 coin fits perfectly into the hole.

can be done for 1p......

as 1p piece fits.