Kents Cams OR Peugeot Sport Cams

11th January 2006, 19:42

what cams would be better? on the kent cams website it says for the vts engine kents cams give a 22bhp gain

was wondering what kind of increase the peugeot sport cams would give and which ones are better for performance?

11th January 2006, 19:52

To be honest.......

That is a very hard question to answer as it was also alter lots of other things about the car, i,e where the power band is etc.

But also you cant just stick a set of cams in on those particular ones you mention i amsure you will ned decent breathing mod to compliment it first and the possibility of solid lifter also.

But other manufacturers of cams are piper or Cat cams these are both very good cams also.

11th January 2006, 20:30

well with the cams there would also be manifold, performance exhuast and remap, just i havent heard alot about peugeot sport cams

11th January 2006, 23:44

Mr_Hush, you need to speak to ratty mate, he is the cam man....

i have kent cam and its never missed a beat.

11th January 2006, 23:50

post the profile of the cam and ill tell you what you can roughly expect.

11th January 2006, 23:50

I would say Kent to be honest!

11th January 2006, 23:57

this is all the info i could find

Sports Cam 262dur. at 0.1mm lift

its the PT50K performance kit from kentcams

12th January 2006, 00:28

Application- Sports Injection
Power Band- 1500 - 6500
Cam Lift(mm)- 9.34
Valve Lift(mm)- 9.34
Duration- 262 Deg
Timing - 21/61 61/21
Full Lift- I 110 Deg E 110 Deg
VC (mm)&n bsp;- 0.00
LTDC&n bsp;- 0.90mm E 0.95mm
Required Parts- CF65

PT50 is a very mild upgrade, all it does is shift the power band pretty much.
if I was you id get the PT51, or better still the cat cams 708.

12th January 2006, 01:12

ok found this

Part No. PT51
Car VTS
Cam Sports R
Adj. H
Dur. 262
Lift 10.08/9.34
Timing 21/61 61/21
Range 1500-6500
Sale B
Price £425.00

is that price for both do you think? also what else would i need with these? pulley?
Thanks

12th January 2006, 01:24

dont need the pulleys as vts has verniers as std, thats a price for both. Depending on mileage id look to get your hydraulic tappets changed (costs about £160 more but if one fails later due to the cam you will have to take them out and redo the timing again to replace them)

also look at the cat cams 708 as it is a good cam.

12th January 2006, 01:24

cam meaning 2 btw lol

12th January 2006, 01:57

also how much would i be looking at to get these put in at a garage?

12th January 2006, 02:01

150-200 at a guess.

12th January 2006, 16:11

Ratty as you seem to be a fountain of knowledge with regard to cams.

Can you supply me with details of the piper 285 as you have done above for the kent pt50?

Cheers

13th January 2006, 00:18

U dont need to change ur tappets untill at least 60k or there abouts when thats concerned, is that right Ratty?

13th January 2006, 01:36

you replace them when they break but if you have over 60k then its advisable, dan ill find out for you when i have a little more time!

13th January 2006, 04:23

tappets go at around 72k on a saxo

13th January 2006, 05:34

Where do they go?lol

13th January 2006, 17:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by danvtr_9

Where do they go?lol

they break lol

13th January 2006, 18:18

do they arse. I seem to remember saying that before. I havent actually heard of anyones "tappets" breaking even less so at 72k miles as a common occurence

13th January 2006, 18:22

you dont need to replace them on if the cars standard, its not part of any of the service intervals. Its just common sense if your putting a different cam in. Like doing a service and putting old oil in.

13th January 2006, 19:08

SAXBP285H - Ultimate Road, Not recommended for use with std injection. Throttle bodies, fowed head, manifold achieves over 180bhp.

Power Band-& nbsp;3000-7500
Power Increase-&nb sp;20BHP
Duration:
Inlet& nbsp;-264 deg
Exahust&nbsp ;-260 deg
Valve Lift:
Inlet& nbsp;-.396" 10.05mm
Exhaust&nbsp ;-.380" 9.65
Timing -22 - 62
-64 - 16
Full Lift&n bsp;-110deg, 114 deg
Lift @ TDC:
Inlet& nbsp;-.58" 1.47mm
Exhuast&nbsp ;-.016" .40mm
Valve Clearance-&n bsp;Hydraulic
£466 blank

13th January 2006, 19:30

are you gonna get head work done aswell as it will be much better

14th January 2006, 01:44

ive had my cam in for two years or so and my tappets are sweet... i just made sure they were all correct after fitting the cam and ive done about 45000m since...

but hey i do have roller followers, im now on 91563miles.haha