Strip Car (And Spare Tyre) Q's

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0
    #1
    Going to Strip the car.

    While at the local cruise on Sunday a Gti was hammering it round, we approached the guy and he said tis all standard, standard engine and suspension. He had it fully stripped (Carpet Included)

    He said about if you remove the back wheel, the back end gets a bit skippy and can skid out? is this true? (I'm lowerd 40mm)

    And removing door card's, unwanted plastic (A + B pillars)& Carpet, REALLY make a big difference? How much weight could you save?

    Thanks
  2. Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Southport Posts: 167 convert e46
    #2
    ive left the driver door cards in, ripped everything out the back end, rear wiper motor, all plastics, all sound deadening, seatbelts, down to the metal. has made a bit of a difference like but not too much!
  3. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #3
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dannyboy2005 View Post
    Going to Strip the car.

    While at the local cruise on Sunday a Gti was hammering it round, we approached the guy and he said tis all standard, standard engine and suspension. He had it fully stripped (Carpet Included)

    He said about if you remove the back wheel, the back end gets a bit skippy and can skid out? is this true? (I'm lowerd 40mm)

    And removing door card's, unwanted plastic (A + B pillars)& Carpet, REALLY make a big difference? How much weight could you save?

    Thanks
    I should leave the back wheels on mate, wont get far without them.

    It will make the rear abit more skittly, obvious really as there isnt as much weight holding it down.
  4. L-plater Joined: Mar 2007 Barrow-in-Furness Posts: 50 Mk2 Saxo
    #4
    It does make a little bit off difference but if comforts a big thing for you then its probably not worth it. Spending a bit of money on a proper exhaust system that will give you the correct back pressure etc and actually add power rather than just noise will have a btter effect, but obviously that costs money whereas stripping the interior is free lol

    if you dont liek it or dont think the difference is worth it its not exactly hard to stick it all back in, try it!
  5. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS
    #5
    Spare wheel on a VTS with tyre is 16.4kg. When you add the wheels cage and tool kit it's over 20Kg worth of stuff which relates to the equivilent of adding 2Bhp. Not a lot but every little helps.

    I persoanly found it a bit loud without the rear seats so put them back in but removed the sound deadening under the boot carpet, rear wiper and the engine fresh air pump which in total saved me about another 10Kg.

    Rallye door cards up front will save you about another 8-10Kg and removing the sunroof will save you 8Kg.

    Standard -
    Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 120
    Weight without Driver (KG) : 935
    Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 130.40

    Some stripping -
    Power at Flywheel (BHP) : 120
    Weight without Driver (KG) : 887
    Power to Weight Ratio (BHP Per Ton) : 137.46

    So, you could save 46-48Kg just by removing a few bits and bobs (sunroof's a bit more involved) and still keep the comfort and noise levels you like Do iiiiiit!

    Oh yeah, dont worry about the back end handling any different. Never made an ounce of difference to the rear end imo.
  6. Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 197 16v s1 rallye :)
    #6
    Nah nor mate he is a 106 owner lol. Meh!
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.
    #7
    Ive got mine completly stripped nothing in apart from dash, seats and cage.

    Ive never found my back end sliding out tbh not even in the wet.............
  8. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 grimsby Posts: 190 saxo vtr x reg 52000 on clock in wicked red
    #8
    mines totally strip at the rear nothing, found it better, bit noisy but who cares. when i have to brack hard the back end seems to lock up more then the front, but i think it handles better as you can throw it around alot easyer
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Northern Ireland - Co. Londonderry Posts: 540 Ep3 type r + Saxo VTS Old: '89 205 1.6 GTi
    #9
    anybody know the weight gains saved for stripping out the rear of the car...not a total strip?

    cheeers
  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #10
    id guess around 25kg+ wheel, bench, doorcards.
  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2008 nottingham Posts: 4801 saxo mark 2
    #11
    I would agree with karl on the weight saving...

    Since stripping mine i have found the back end steps out if you are taking sharp bends with excessive speed!!

    Round roundabouts the back end of mine can slide outagood 15 degrees...
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by matt_vtr_15 View Post
    I would agree with karl on the weight saving...

    Since stripping mine i have found the back end steps out if you are taking sharp bends with excessive speed!!

    Round roundabouts the back end of mine can slide outagood 15 degrees...
    will depend on your suspension, tyres and generally how you drive the car.
    not just the weight removal in the back.
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #13
    agreed agreed, mine soon to be striped, at the end of the day any weight saved = better performance but as said do watch it as if you strip the rear it WILL be more twitchy, you think youve got the engine etc up front and seats, you strip the rear ou got fuook all
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #14
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    agreed agreed, mine soon to be striped, at the end of the day any weight saved = better performance but as said do watch it as if you strip the rear it WILL be more twitchy, you think youve got the engine etc up front and seats, you strip the rear ou got fuook all
    put a full tank of fuel in.

    that will counteract anything you've removed.
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    put a full tank of fuel in.

    that will counteract anything you've removed.
    +1 petrols noisy when its splashing about
  16. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2008 nottingham Posts: 4801 saxo mark 2
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    will depend on your suspension, tyres and generally how you drive the car.
    not just the weight removal in the back.
    Well it never did it before but now does since lowering and weight removal...


    I think the main reason is due to lowering... As i have 4 mint yoko's on all with atleast 6mm of tread....
    Ifind it fun...
  17. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26
    #17
    still shouldnt just hop out driving normally,
    are you taking your foot off the loud pedal?
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2008 nottingham Posts: 4801 saxo mark 2
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    still shouldnt just hop out driving normally,
    are you taking your foot off the loud pedal?
    lol sorry mate...

    normal driving it is fine.. not much twitch..

    its when I reach a certain stretch of countryside it becomes a drift machine...

    with the foot planted on the load pedal...

    before i stripped it and did the same sorta thing though it didn't really kick out at all...

    just the lowered suspension and weigh loss seem to make it a bit twitchy...

    suprising considering the cage weighs only about 10kg less than what i took out...
  19. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Northern Ireland - Co. Londonderry Posts: 540 Ep3 type r + Saxo VTS Old: '89 205 1.6 GTi
    #19
    im just going to remove the spare wheel and accessories, and the sound proofing in the boot and thats about it because i want to keep the practicality of the car, but lose a bit of weight
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #20
    I had mine on spax adjustables and it took me a while to dial it back in again after pulling all the weight out. It was only noticeable on good rubber, but on shit rubber the backend stayed in and the front understeered.

    I have nothing in the car but what i need to go forwards and stop.
  21. Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456
    #21
    ste really isnt joking about how bare the car is, i was shocked. btw did you get the matrix out mate?
  22. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by webby View Post
    ste really isnt joking about how bare the car is, i was shocked. btw did you get the matrix out mate?
    Not yet, weathers too nice lol!.

    Ill get around to it eventually.
  23. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5
    #23
    Taking weight out the back obviously makes it lighter, less weight over the wheels = less grip, although once you start to get used to it, it's fine.
  24. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #24
    stripping can make a huge difference in aa cars behavior

    i had a stripped (no dash or anything) 1.1 and it was the most fun car ive owned tbh as you could just fling it round corners and it wasnt shabby in a straight line either

    however you want to try and keep the weight even

    dont just strip the rear get weight from over the front axle too
  25. Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 anywere lol Posts: 253 2001 saxo vts 1993 vw polo
    #25
    does make a differance even taking your spare wheel off...
  26. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS
    #26
    Another good mod for anyone with alloy wheels is getting some Citroen C5 (15") or 106 Rallye (14") steelies on board. Saves weight, looks cool and reduces unsprung weight so it's all good!