Turbo setup, Can standard ecu be mapped for turbo??

  1. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #1
    Im looking at turboing my vtr but only wanting a low boost setup because of cost wise. It will be taken off road in the future and being built to be a track/weekend car. I was thinking of either doing it to a vts but heard that vtr's are good with boost and have got internals which i think seen from wide vtr turbo say that. So would that be best without changing internals?
    Also ive read up on here all about turboing but need to know
    1. What turbo to use?
    2. Manifold as dont want a standard one modified?
    3. Intercooler?
    4. Should i get oil cooler also?
    5. Whats a safe psi to run at and what would the std internals take and max power?
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #2
    turbo is optional all depends as most with price, read the stickies mate t2 t25 t28 all suitable for low boost
    manifolds are expensive which is why people modify standard
    vtr over s i beleive is because vtr mani is easier to modify plus many see the 8v an easier lump to work on dont as why?
    you wil need inercooler and a msaal oil cooler should be adequate for low boost
    theres no safe psi for stock internals but 8 is said safe max but id say reliable max is 6, but as gav has proved being respectfull to a car you can run 14psi for a good while long as you know it will go bang eventually
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #3
    How much are you looking to spend and what sort or engine management and fuelling are you planning to use?
  4. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #4
    their is pages of the basic set up on here mate just got to look. or type it in google n put saxperience after wat u want to search and it shout come up.

    dp engineering look on their site man they have the mani i want to buy for mine. also ci tuning, gmc motorsports. get some ideas off them and build ur oen kit or if u have the money buy one of their kits.

    you can use any petroll turbo i supose as long as you get a mani mad to fit... most ppl have t2, t3, t4, t25.. i believe some one somewer has a skyline turbo on theirs but ull just have to turn the boost down.

    u can fine intercooles anywhere just got to get one that fits in you car lol as the problem i have with the one i just baught.

    definatly get a oil cooler.

    like everyone gets told. do everything properly the 1st tym it will be better and cheaper! forge it. uprate injectors 2-4 bar map sensor stan alone ecu... alot of money no matter wat you do so go all out
  5. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #5
    jus found a decent size intercooler on ebay actually brand new 2 1/4" inlets to(same as vtr) for79 with 8 postage
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #6
    What intercooler would fit? Do i need to get rid of the radiator to? Well id run standalone if found a cheap enough one. Can i put any injectors on? What power would i get from 6-8 psi? Is it just pistons, rods that need changing internally as for forged internals? Also would look at camming with probs a ph3 cam.
  7. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #7
    Ive heard that the 200sx mani fits but need modifying, what actually needs doing to it?
  8. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 taunton Posts: 147 saxo vts turbo
    #8
    allright bud just been reading posts a wide range of good advice from people who know take it on board and stick to it . i diddent and found myself out of pocket and without a car for a while .i put a turbo on my vts used all std internels and only used a sigcon and a mf2 5th injector running at 15 psi boost the max for the pug 306 deisel turbo i was useing (yes i did just bodge it) thought i knew it all but when took it to a rolling road and got a couple of mates there bigin the car up put in on the rollers when it got to 197bhp BANG oil smoke and outher parts flew out of the engin bay (including all the money i had) and thay still charged me for the use (all im saying mate is beleve what thay saying and dont take any short cuts or youl end up like my car)
  9. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    What intercooler would fit? Do i need to get rid of the radiator to? Well id run standalone if found a cheap enough one. Can i put any injectors on? What power would i get from 6-8 psi? Is it just pistons, rods that need changing internally as for forged internals? Also would look at camming with probs a ph3 cam.
    i think you would be ok using a renault5 intercooler. it may fit easier in the engine bay and should be ok for low boost.. but i baught a fat chrome front mount looks wicked ah will get the air extra cool. its just fittin thats a problem.

    no you wil still need your rad, i was going to try get an uprated one that loks better or get a smaller one to save room. havent found one yet tho.

    their is some one on here that has done his own ecu for a few people nad has had alot of good feedback. i believe he is doing one for the 8v one plug now so ill be looking to invest in that.

    injectors.. if your running low boost your standar injectors should do. i have a fith injector on mine with the mf2.. im not to sure about injectors. it tepends if your getin direct replacement or gonna change the whole thing but they do uprated injectors on gmc motorsports.

    yea forge pistons steel conrods should do it but their realy expensive plus fitting. cams will help increase the air flow. and im sure poeple would usuali run 160/180 bhp but can get up to 220 all depend how good the work is done and the remap. but if you go stanalone u can have alot more..

    sorry if any spelling is wrong my wireless keyboard is playing up but hope u understand.
  10. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #10
    what are the internals that need changing then? Rods, pistons? Is it worth getting it done to vts over vtr but vtr internals go well with boosted and mines done 48k atm and runs fine.
  11. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #11
    yea the rods and pistons. im not sure wich engine will handle boost better but i believe the vtr works better with a turbo with the way it spools up n that. but no matter if you have vts or vtr if u wanna run sill bhp they will both need it done. if you do get it done then instead of runnig 180bhp and worrying is it ok, you can run 300 with a smile on your face ha if u wanna go that far.
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp
    #12
    Look in the Articles or FAQ pages. There are guides on turbo set ups.
  13. Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Hereford Posts: 1381 Indigo 16v Rallye + 2 VTS's
    #13
    GMC do an intercooler/rad combi for the saxo i believe.
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #14
    Well i was looking at getting the turbo mani thats for sale for vtr on here. But if changed pistons, rod id do vts because would get alot more power. What power range would be difference between the vtr and s? I just n eed to know what turbo should i go for, etc? Is there anyones threads would be worth reading up about whos got a good setup.
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #15
    What you guys think to this? Seems a good buy tbh.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-TURBO-INT...d=p3286.c0.m14
  16. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #16
    thats what i sed i baught already. i have it fitted to my car now. its good. but i just payed bit to much for the piping. if you buy that and get the piping sumwhere else ull be ok. but it looks ace on my car. its exactly like the one shown in the pictures ubove
  17. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #17
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTSTomE View Post
    GMC do an intercooler/rad combi for the saxo i believe.
    have you got the link for this? ill take a browse now.. sounds interesting
  18. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #18
    sorry theirs another post on the intercooler piping if you look on that it has a proper picture of how it will look on your saxo.
  19. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #19
    http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/index...products_id=89

    alot of money tho...
  20. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #20
    When people say about new driveshafts can you get uprated ones or just same as standard ones? What sort of power can they take?
  21. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi
    #21
    who made up that vtr internals are better for boost than 16v?

    you should read some good books about engines, turboing and mapping before you start on this imo. and read through the progress threads of cars that have been turbo'd successfully.
  22. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #22
    your drive shaft should be fine with the power as long as you dont drive like a d1ck..
  23. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #23
    What sort of power would you get from a vtr on low boost say 5-6psi? And a vts? Just to see the differnce in power because may look at doing my vtr engine on low boost for the time being. If got a vts engine done id rebuild it just so i know everythings new and been changed so less likely to go bang.
  24. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    What sort of power would you get from a vtr on low boost say 5-6psi? And a vts?
    Depends how well its done but 130 140 ish
  25. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #25
    Is that all.
  26. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    What sort of power would you get from a vtr on low boost say 5-6psi? And a vts? Just to see the differnce in power because may look at doing my vtr engine on low boost for the time being. If got a vts engine done id rebuild it just so i know everythings new and been changed so less likely to go bang.
    why would you only rebuild the vts? if you going to rebuild a engine to turbo it i dont think it would matter if it was a vts or vtr as you would run mad power out of both.... thats if you mean forge in the rebuild...
  27. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #27
    Well if got forged to run big power then id only do to vts as no point spending silly money on vtr but if just wanted a low boost set up then wouldnt change internals and go for vtr engine as was looking at the mani of vtr t on here that he has forsale atm. But not sure to go turbo or bodies although the sound of bodies would be good and be more reliable on the cheaper option but would deffinately prefer to turbo if can so for same sort of money. Would like to get car around 0-60 in 7 secs and about 180bhp so 200bhp per tonne roughly.
  28. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #28
    Was thinking of either 1.8t 20v turbo off a golf or something or a r5 turbo. Or what would be better? What injectors should i get or keep standards. Think im going to go for vtr turbo atm and get used to the power and tbh my vtr is quite quick enough for me for the time being but my car will be becoming a track/ weekend car.
  29. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #29
    Looking at getting this

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...=243537&page=2
  30. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #30
    yes mate that would be fat! but alot of money... well worth it tho. hmmm wat more would you get out of a vts than a vtr? if the waas both forged n and uprated the same??? i believe the vtr would be better....

    yea most people use a t2,t3,t4,t15,t25 turbo, i think im gonna change myn to a t 25 next year when i get my vtr forged.

    if your gonna just get the usual low boost set up and run a fith injector then your standard injectors should be ok, but im sure some1 said injectors out of a clio sport would be a gd upgrde...
  31. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #31
    Well was going to just get bigger injectors rather than put a 5th injector in for future when go for more power maybe. What sort of power do you think could get from a forged vtr engine? And what psi could run it at?
    Also how do you change the psi on a turbo setup? If got standalone is there any good cheaper ones about? Why would you say vtr better than s?
  32. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #32
    What power would vtr turbo run at 5-6psi? about 150? Would i be able to go somewhere that makes universal exhausts to build me a downpipe or that not possible?
  33. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #33
    if you get your vtr forged, then you could run 400+bhp if you wated and got the money too.. if youcan keeit on the road.

    luthor1 on here has done his own ecu for the vts and is makin on for the vtr now. i will be trying his ecu once its done. you can find it on here its called the predator ecu...

    5-6 psi could give you anywhere between 140-200 depending on the rest of your set up.

    you can change the psi with a bost controll valve...
  34. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #34
    How much are the boost control valves? Which one is a good one also? Would it be worth getting turbo timer too.
  35. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #35
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/UNIVERSAL-MANU...d=p3286.c0.m14

    that is similar to the one i recently baught,

    yea a turbo timer will look after you turbo, dont just buy a cheap one, i got a cheap on and its shit... dont even work lol. i will be buying a new one soon.
  36. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #36
    I think im going to go vts turbo with low boost at first as went in one last night that was running 5 psi and has 180 bhp. I prefer the look of vts engine too as vtrs look abit pewney lol.
  37. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
    #37
    you wont turbo anything, you'll just keep dreaming...
  38. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #38
    What the fuck do you know what i will and wont do to my car? How am i dreaming!
  39. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.
    #39
    alot i think and then change your mind. Face it, it'll never happen.
  40. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Sheffield Posts: 233 Posi Blue VTR 2000 reg.
    #40
    if you go for "propper" standalone managment youll get alot more gains and more reliability i think.
  41. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #41
    Well you keep thinking that then and stop givin shit on peoples thread. Ye probably will get standalone as will be camming also i think and want 200-250 bhp when its finished.
  42. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #42
    good look hope every thing works out will be nice to see a progress thread on the turbo side of things nice car by the way
  43. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #43
    Where can i get vts turbo manifold from, I know cituning do them but dont sell seperately.
  44. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #44
    yes they do sell them seperate ive phoned them loads ....250 they are or with down pipe to about 490... 15 delivery
  45. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #45
    That seems a very good price. Could i get a down pipe made from a custom exhaust place or not as they do them where my mate works and could get it on cheap maybe.
  46. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #46
    What mods and turbo should i use for roughly a 200bhp figure and what psi to run at on low boost. I had been in ben vts saxo vts turbo running 180bhp at 5psi with t2 turbo, cituning kit. Ive thought about getting it cammed too to add the extra bit off power and a higher rpm. What ecu should i use or can i use standard with mf2, etc.
  47. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #47
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    What mods and turbo should i use for roughly a 200bhp figure and what psi to run at on low boost. I had been in ben_vts saxo vts turbo running 180bhp at 5psi with t2 turbo, cituning kit. Ive thought about getting it cammed too to add the extra bit off power and a higher rpm. What ecu should i use or can i use standard with mfi, etc.
    Mine may well be around the 200 mark as i havnt had it on rollers since getting my ecu on. So a similar set up to mine should get you to 200bhp running low boost. I would still change the ecu if i was you. Stand alone, bigger injectors, remap and your sorted with management and the car will be running safely.
  48. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #48
    Adapter for the standard manifold to the turbo, Want 4 branch one tbh.
    downpipe from the turbo- Ebay
    oil feed line
    oil return line
    boss welded into the sump for the return
    Boost pipes- Ebay
    Intercooler- Ebay £110 new
    silicone hoses of various bends
    silicone vac hose for dump valve and boost gauges
    boost gauge- Got
    dump valve- Can i get from any car?
    2.5bar map sensor- Ford one £28 ebay, ok?
    4 bigger injectors (use dastek and map sensor module to run this option)- Which car from?
    MF2 and sigcon (runs extra one or two injectors along side the oe 4 if not going for dastek option) Where can get these?
  49. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #49
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ben_vts View Post
    Mine may well be around the 200 mark as i havnt had it on rollers since getting my ecu on. So a similar set up to mine should get you to 200bhp running low boost. I would still change the ecu if i was you. Stand alone, bigger injectors, remap and your sorted with management and the car will be running safely.
    Im just stuck for the manifold tbh. Could you send me your spec so i have a base to go against like which injectors your using.
    Turbo will probs be a t2 or t25.
  50. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #50
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxova View Post
    you wont turbo anything, you'll just keep dreaming...
    Who is this giving you shit jamie. what a bellend
  51. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #51
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Im just stuck for the manifold tbh. Could you send me your spec so i have a base to go against like which injectors your using.
    Turbo will probs be a t2 or t25.
    Yeah off the top of my head its :

    - Garret T2
    - Miltek 4branch + downpipe
    - Intercooler.? Fitted when i bought it
    - Predator ECU + Wideband controller
    - PICO injectors ( havnt bought yet, will be doing this month hopefully)

    Not sure on the oil feed/return but if it helps i can get some pics for you and put them on here.
  52. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #52
    How much are those injectors? Heard 330c are good. The gti6 ones fit aswell so was maybe thinking of getting them depending what power there good for. Going to see if you can get the miltek mani straight from them or if another dealer as cituning dont sell on own i dont think.
    I take it can get some braided hosing for the oil feed, etc?
    Intercooler will be similar to your but off ebay for £110 posted which seems a bargain tbh. Boost pipes usure of too.
  53. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #53
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    How much are those injectors? Heard 330c are good. The gti6 ones fit aswell so was maybe thinking of getting them depending what power there good for. Going to see if you can get the miltek mani straight from them or if another dealer as cituning dont sell on own i dont think.
    I take it can get some braided hosing for the oil feed, etc?
    Intercooler will be similar to your but off ebay for £110 posted which seems a bargain tbh. Boost pipes usure of too.
    Yeah iam getting the 330cc ones. Think they just over 60quid each. Never heard the gti6 ones fit. I know the clio 172 has the same. Yeah all the hosing comes braided on the oil feed. You unsure of the boost pipes.?
  54. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #54
    Im geting a tubular manni and a down pipe made for £650...
  55. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #55
    where from?
  56. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #56
    From a guy i know
  57. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #57
    I think im going for a t2 turbo running low boost of about 6psi.
  58. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #58
    Im going to turbo the vtr now as ive changed mind with trying to find a vts thats low mileaged and i think tbh that a vtr turbo power would be fine for me atm.
    Please could i have peoples specs so i can get a base of what sort of stuff i need to get a i know what i need but unsure of what stuff like map sensor, which turbo, etc.
  59. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #59
    cool vtr turbos are good any how very quick what head you got the black or silver
  60. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #60
    Silver 98bhp. Cars on a 03 plate.
  61. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #61
    are you the guy who bought the turbo kit the cituning one
  62. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #62
    No mate just starting off now buying.
  63. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #63
    Is this the boost pipes i need or 3'' ones?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5-TURBO-INTE...d=p3286.c0.m14

    Looking at a intercooler like this but the inlets are 2.25'' not 2.5'' and its not too big, seems perfect sort of size for low boost.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alloy-Front-Mo...d=p3286.c0.m14

    I think going for a t25 turbo.
    Can i buy any dump valve as long as get the t piece of the same car as what dump vavles for?
    What bar map sensor should i get, etc.
    Im buying a mf2 with 5th injector as going to be using that for time being.
  64. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #64
    Should i get a afr like this
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alpha-Air-Fuel...d=p3286.c0.m14
    Or a guage one or does it not really matter but these ones look smart as.
  65. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #65
    vtr inlet is 2.25" so although most wont use that size pipe its best to use the same as reducing and stepping the pipes will fuck up the boost, plus its around 10% loss in power for every 90 degree bend in your pipe work, try to keep bends smooth and have no abrasive angles, the intercooler thats brand new on ebay is also 2.25" so will keep in good with the system, if your serious about boosting your car do alot of research first mate
  66. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #66
    Is there anywhere i can buy one made but then it wont go with intercooler will it as wont be same unless intercooler is made for? Hows other people done theres?
  67. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #67
    All i can say is take it to the turbo doc, 500 quid job done. no shiny ass parts but who cares. at the end of the day its a saxo and is never goin to break any records!!
  68. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #68
    I want to do it myself and i dont want shoddy parts like some people on here though. Its getting done properly even on a budget setup to start off with.
  69. Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Hull Posts: 169 S1 106 Xsi running 148whp
    #69
    whats the turbo doc?????
  70. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #70
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    I want to do it myself and i dont want shoddy parts like some people on here though. Its getting done properly even on a budget setup to start off with.
    Fair shout mate, The Doc as he is called has done lots of VTR conversions and a couple of VTS's too, they have all been running Months now without skippin a beat, Know what you mean about doing it yourself though. hows much do you think it will cost you in total?
  71. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #71
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxohull View Post
    whats the turbo doc?????
    the Turbo Doctor. his kit is exactly the same as cituning but home made, and a 5th of the price!!! the guy really knows his shit about turbo'd cars as he has over 15 experiance in modding cars.
  72. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Southend, Essex/Thetford, Norfolk Posts: 4203 Seat Mii Toca/VW Polo Gti 6c 1.8 turbo
    #72
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Well if got forged to run big power then id only do to vts as no point spending silly money on vtr but if just wanted a low boost set up then wouldnt change internals and go for vtr engine as was looking at the mani of vtr t on here that he has forsale atm. But not sure to go turbo or bodies although the sound of bodies would be good and be more reliable on the cheaper option but would deffinately prefer to turbo if can so for same sort of money. Would like to get car around 0-60 in 7 secs and about 180bhp so 200bhp per tonne roughly.
    If you go back a few issues in fastcar saxo180 did that with just 'normal' mods no bodies or turbo...
  73. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #73
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stueyp View Post
    the Turbo Doctor. his kit is exactly the same as cituning but home made, and a 5th of the price!!! the guy really knows his shit about turbo'd cars as he has over 15 experiance in modding cars.
    That doesnt really answer the question, does he have a website, phone number... you have any links to work he has done before???

    Thanks.
  74. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #74
    i think its a load of poo tbf
  75. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #75
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    i think its a load of poo tbf
    reckon big log, sloppy water splash or a clean break?
  76. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #76
    sloppy wter splash springs into action ofr this one
  77. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #77
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Should i get a afr like this
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alpha-Air-Fuel...d=p3286.c0.m14
    Or a guage one or does it not really matter but these ones look smart as.
    thats prob the easiest to use.
  78. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #78
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Is this the boost pipes i need or 3'' ones?

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-5-TURBO-INTE...d=p3286.c0.m14

    Looking at a intercooler like this but the inlets are 2.25'' not 2.5'' and its not too big, seems perfect sort of size for low boost.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alloy-Front-Mo...d=p3286.c0.m14

    I think going for a t25 turbo.
    Can i buy any dump valve as long as get the t piece of the same car as what dump vavles for?
    What bar map sensor should i get, etc.
    Im buying a mf2 with 5th injector as going to be using that for time being.
    intercooler will be ok, make sure you measure up. saxos are restricted for space which you will soon find out.

    im not to sure about them pipe kits as the saxo is restricted for space so you will find half the kit wont be needed. if you mount the intercooler then take it to a company close to you they should be able to measure it up for you and give you what you need.
  79. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #79
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush View Post
    reckon big log, sloppy water splash or a clean break?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    sloppy wter splash springs into action ofr this one
    now thats just nasty! ha
  80. L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 mablethorpe Posts: 30 saxo vtr turbo, skyline r33 gtst
    #80
    the turbo doc is registered on this forum. he did my car before i bought it. just stage 1 kit its not bad just need new clutch to see how well it does go
  81. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #81
    whats fuelling it
  82. L-plater Joined: Sep 2009 mablethorpe Posts: 30 saxo vtr turbo, skyline r33 gtst
    #82
    fifth injector and turbo doctor box lol
  83. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #83
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    i think its a load of poo tbf
    What do you mean by that buddy?
  84. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #84
    How else could i make my car quicker aswell as the turbo? Its all stripped inside and wanting a carbon bonnet. I was thinking of rallye, vts box. Would a rallye cam fit into my head (98bhp) without needing remaping?
  85. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #85
    would not fit a rallye box if your going boosted, you'll be forever changing gear, doubt you'll see much difference with a vts box over the vtr, what power you going for?
  86. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #86
    i have a vts turbo conversion done by the turbo doc!
    rover turbo inlet
    TD04 turbo
    evo 9 intercooler
    external wastegate n screamer pipe
    14psi
    8000rpm rev limit
    megasquirt ecu
    just pushed 200bhp at the fly after a kwik remap on the way down to L.A.D in morecambe!
    is getting turned upto 18psi n mapped as soon as L.A.D have a free afternoon for me to use the dyno!
    THE ENGINE HAD DONE 105000 MILES WHEN THE CONVERSION WAS DONE! NO FANCY PISTONS OR MODS! IT GOES LIKE FOOK N IT WORKS! NO SHINY BITS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS COST £800 U CANT BUY THIS TYPE OF POWER FOR THE MONEY ANYWERE ELSE!
  87. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #87
    How do you post pictures???
  88. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #88
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tangoedvtsturbo View Post
    i have a vts turbo conversion done by the turbo doc!
    rover turbo inlet
    TD04 turbo
    evo 9 intercooler
    external wastegate n screamer pipe
    14psi
    8000rpm rev limit
    megasquirt ecu
    just pushed 200bhp at the fly after a kwik remap on the way down to L.A.D in morecambe!
    is getting turned upto 18psi n mapped as soon as L.A.D have a free afternoon for me to use the dyno!
    THE ENGINE HAD DONE 105000 MILES WHEN THE CONVERSION WAS DONE! NO FANCY PISTONS OR MODS! IT GOES LIKE FOOK N IT WORKS! NO SHINY BITS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS COST £800 U CANT BUY THIS TYPE OF POWER FOR THE MONEY ANYWERE ELSE!
    bang your engine will love you .14psi how is that lasting

    and two upload photos
    join photobucket
    upload photo to there when up loaded
    copy the img link to here
  89. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #89
    every1 else asks that question! even the guys at L.A.D were amazed!
    down to running rich i think! keeps the engine cool!
  90. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #90
    Fair play for doing it but i still think the pistons will not last that long especially with abuse
  91. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #91
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tangoedvtsturbo View Post
    every1 else asks that question! even the guys at L.A.D were amazed!
    down to running rich i think! keeps the engine cool!
    im amazed m8 well if it works and your having no problems good look to you thats pritty awesome to be able to run that on standard internals . have you got a decomp plate what gasket is on it or is that all standard to .....
  92. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #92
    wont last long
  93. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #93
    as to it wont last long!
    been runnin it for 9 months!
    no problems n i drove it like i stole it! apart from letting it warm up properly n cool down properly!
  94. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #94
    uploaded the images to photobucket! unsure were to copy the link to!
    not very good with computers
  95. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #95
    need the bottom link that says img code or something similar copy and paste it into hear, not saying you cant run a car on 1bar for a while, longer then 9 months been done before, but it will fail and very sonn if your upping it to 18,
  96. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #96
    upload to photo bucket m8 then copy the (img) tag line and post here that will work
  97. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #97
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO View Post
    would not fit a rallye box if your going boosted, you'll be forever changing gear, doubt you'll see much difference with a vts box over the vtr, what power you going for?

    Well i will probably be running about 6/7 psi so hoping atleast 150brake. Could i fit a rallye cam without remap?
  98. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #98
    You got the blacktop vtr lump then? As the rallye cam will only fit taht and not the silvertop?

    Probably been said but what are you using for fueling?
  99. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #99
    Mf2 with fifth injector to start off with.
  100. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #100
    If your wanting to run a different cam, save up and go predator or other standalone ecu, without this tou wont see the benefit of the camshaft change, if not then the standard cam will be more than ok for mf2 and 5th injector setup!!
  101. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #101
    it was actually running 18psi just since fitting the external wastegate its alot harder to set your boost up! its set to 14 cos thats all the spring will allow! was a total different car @ 18psi just needs time on the dyno to get better power mid range
  102. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #102
    http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/a...bo/saxo001.jpg
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  111. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #111
    to be fair mate, looks like a good job, what does that screamer pipe sound like?

    hate the rear can though
  112. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #112
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO View Post
    to be fair mate, looks like a good job, what does that screamer pipe sound like?

    hate the rear can though
    It sounds awesome!!!!! Bit like a jet engine!!
  113. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #113
    i looks good nice one
  114. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #114
    intercoolers massive, oculd be a reason its lasted a while, oversized ic will cool it alot id imagine
  115. Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 FLEETWOOD` Posts: 16 SAXO VTS TURBO
    #115
    just got aa big rear can so i can use a flamer kit! it overfuels so mite as well burn it lol
  116. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #116
    Wow, nice setup there m8, what inlet manifold is that thou, has it been retro fitted ie: modified to fit???

    Thanks.
  117. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #117
    Rover coupe turbo inlet, been done on ssc a few times too
  118. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #118
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO View Post
    Rover coupe turbo inlet, been done on ssc a few times too
    Interesting, is it an easy fit then? Whats the advantages.. is it just a better design or is the T/B bigger etc?
  119. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #119
    tangoedvtsturbo one question whats that sticking out your wing
  120. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #120
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ryanmt View Post
    Interesting, is it an easy fit then? Whats the advantages.. is it just a better design or is the T/B bigger etc?
    Will try and dig out a thread for you, think its takes a fair bit of fabrication iirc, its an aluminum inlet so has better airflow etc, not sure on tb size

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sliderz View Post
    tangoedvtsturbo one question whats that sticking out your wing
    a screamer pipe matey
  121. Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo
    #121
    arh thanks mr wide
  122. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #122
    Could i turbo on low boost with out need to fit decomp plate?
  123. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR
    #123
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tangoedvtsturbo View Post
    i have a vts turbo conversion done by the turbo doc!
    rover turbo inlet
    TD04 turbo
    evo 9 intercooler
    external wastegate n screamer pipe
    14psi
    8000rpm rev limit
    megasquirt ecu
    just pushed 200bhp at the fly after a kwik remap on the way down to L.A.D in morecambe!
    is getting turned upto 18psi n mapped as soon as L.A.D have a free afternoon for me to use the dyno!
    THE ENGINE HAD DONE 105000 MILES WHEN THE CONVERSION WAS DONE! NO FANCY PISTONS OR MODS! IT GOES LIKE FOOK N IT WORKS! NO SHINY BITS BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS COST £800 U CANT BUY THIS TYPE OF POWER FOR THE MONEY ANYWERE ELSE!
    what is the website or phone number for this guy so i can see if he can do mine for me.
  124. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #124
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willtr View Post
    what is the website or phone number for this guy so i can see if he can do mine for me.
    His Name is chris and his number is 07790925333.
  125. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR
    #125
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stueyp View Post
    His Name is chris and his number is 07790925333.
    thanks for the number mate
  126. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #126
    Where can i get a decomp plate from and how much will this be? I presume i will need a new cam belt with taking the head off?
  127. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #127
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Where can i get a decomp plate from and how much will this be? I presume i will need a new cam belt with taking the head off?
    Depends when yours was last changed. Tangoedvtsturbo has used two head gaskets on his.
  128. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #128
    Well the cars just turned 50k.
  129. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #129
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stueyp View Post
    Depends when yours was last changed. Tangoedvtsturbo has used two head gaskets on his.
    if your removing the head you always put a new cambelt on, bit of bad advice there mate, the belt will always be stretched when its been on the car, only time i wouldnt change it is if its only been on less then a week but ideally you should bre putting a new one on
  130. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 sunny old blackpool Posts: 153 Zafira gsi, saxo vts, mk2 golf 20vt
    #130
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    if your removing the head you always put a new cambelt on, bit of bad advice there mate, the belt will always be stretched when its been on the car, only time i wouldnt change it is if its only been on less then a week but ideally you should bre putting a new one on
    Stretching cam belts????? That's a new one!!
  131. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #131
    Say if near the time i will be fitting the turbo kit can i get a new gasket, decomp plate and cambelt done which i will get done by a garage so its got it shown on service history and i wont be a ble to do it. Will it be ok to still run the car with the decomp on, etc even if turbo not yet fitted or should i get the turbo up and running then take to a garage to get all those done.
  132. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #132
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stueyp View Post
    Stretching cam belts????? That's a new one!!
    not at all mate but w/e
  133. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #133
    Found a decomp plate-
    http://www.ferriday.co.uk/orders/dec...n_plates.shtml
    Any good or is there better?
  134. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR
    #134
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-V...d=p3286.c0.m14

    I have heard that these ones are ment to be good.
  135. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #135
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by willtr View Post
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-V...d=p3286.c0.m14

    I have heard that these ones are ment to be good.
    Bargain.
  136. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR
    #136
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Bargain.
    Yeah i no i found this one ebay before and put up a thread about it and blackie_2k5 said he knew the guy that makes them and that they are good. I could link you to the thread page if you want so you can have a read?
  137. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #137
    point to make is these need a slight bit of dressing where the bore holes have been prssed out, but in comparisin with dp engineering and ferriday etc are good value for money
  138. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR
    #138
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    point to make is these need a slight bit of dressing where the bore holes have been prssed out, but in comparisin with dp engineering and ferriday etc are good value for money

    Thanks for that as i am thinking of getting this done at the end of the month to save me time and money. and how would i dress it?
  139. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #139
    with a file or a die grinder, couple of little snots that need removing where the bore size wasnt totallt pressed out piece of piss
  140. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #140
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Say if near the time i will be fitting the turbo kit can i get a new gasket, decomp plate and cambelt done which i will get done by a garage so its got it shown on service history and i wont be a ble to do it. Will it be ok to still run the car with the decomp on, etc even if turbo not yet fitted or should i get the turbo up and running then take to a garage to get all those done.
    water pump, new head bolts. get it al done when you put the turbo on unless its not gong to be done fore a wile. i just done all mine
  141. Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR
    #141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 View Post
    with a file or a die grinder, couple of little snots that need removing where the bore size wasnt totallt pressed out piece of piss
    thanks for this information. when i get this done would you be able to give me more information on the parts that need dressing?
  142. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #142
    Where can i get the hoses for the feed and refurn for turbo? Im struggling to get a mani, how hard is it to get a stardard one and get the adapter and get it welded on?
  143. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #143
    oil feed and return you mean? or water?
  144. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #144
    Well the oil feed and return that goes from turbo to sump, etc. Im just looking at where to get all the little bits like that i need to get. As i know the likes of cituning do braided one in there kit.
  145. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #145
    Im struggling also on boost pipes to go to intercooler and trottle body. I want one to fit my 5th injector and bar map sensor in.
  146. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #146
    boost pipes: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-SILICONE-TUR...d=p3286.c0.m14

    these will obviously need to be cut and rewelded where necessary

    elbow: http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/index...roducts_id=208

    for oil feed, there are braided kits on ebay, they are from abroad so may be a wait but pretty cheap

    Also you after an intercooler? I have a gmc one for sale - bargain price too!
  147. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #147
    Well i coupd fit the injector in the elbow couldnt i? Where about would map sensor go? I would buy thel intercooler but after selling nos bottle as dont want run nitrous now, would prefer money to go toward turbo setup. Would that intercooler not be too big for lw boost?
  148. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #148
    Yes mate, injector would fit in the elbow, you can see where it fits in the picture.
    The intercooler wouldnt be too big, it would keep the inlet temps nice and low which would help massively
  149. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #149
    If i can get rid of the bottle then might be interested. All ive got so far is mf2, injector, 2 bar map sensor and sigcon.
  150. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #150
    okay matey, let me know, may not be here that long
  151. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #151
    If you can supply lengths and end union thread sizes i can supply the braided lines
  152. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #152
    what sort of prices you charge?
  153. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #153
    With out an exect spec its hard to say
    id say around £20 deliverd
  154. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #154
    per hose? was going to edit as i aint got my turbo yet so not sure on size and fitting as of yet but will be in touch when i do, what qaulity are they?
  155. Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328
    #155
    Yes per hose.
    Got a link to the ebay ones?
    Motorsport quality, very good same as the brake line kits i supply.
    Can do a full internal bias valvd kit no problems
  156. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #156
    will be in touch when ive sorted the turbo out mate
  157. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #157
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by swampy View Post
    Yes per hose.
    Got a link to the ebay ones?
    Motorsport quality, very good same as the brake line kits i supply.
    Can do a full internal bias valvd kit no problems
    Any chance of a response to my emails and pm's before you sort all these hoses out for everyone else?
  158. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #158
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO View Post
    What if went for a vts, Would this not fit that then?
  159. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #159
    Cant see why not mate, you'll need to ring and ask for diameter of the elbow to see if it matches for the vts tb?
  160. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #160
    Well its just i was going to vts the car and gave up then going to turbo the vtr but would like the extra power and was only going to get a standard mani so not spending alot on a mani so in the future can turbo the vts without losing loads on a good manifold,etc. But if i find a good vts engine by time got all the parts i will fit that then turbo that as got all bits for a vts engine, just not the engine lol. You dont fancing a swap for nitrous bottle +cash for intercooler lol?
  161. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts
    #161
    Just use a silicone joiner from the elbow to the throttlebody. Can mix and match whatever diameters you need then to suit whatever engine you end up running. Only a few quid for the silicone
  162. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #162
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Well its just i was going to vts the car and gave up then going to turbo the vtr but would like the extra power and was only going to get a standard mani so not spending alot on a mani so in the future can turbo the vts without losing loads on a good manifold,etc. But if i find a good vts engine by time got all the parts i will fit that then turbo that as got all bits for a vts engine, just not the engine lol. You dont fancing a swap for nitrous bottle +cash for intercooler lol?
    intercooler sold now sorry
  163. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #163
    Right this will be my turbo setup-

    Mf2 with 5th injector- Got
    2 bar map sensor- Got
    Sigcon- Got
    Intercooler- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-TURBO-INT...d=p3286.c0.m14
    Boost pipes- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-SILICONE-TUR...d=p3286.c0.m14
    And- http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/index...roducts_id=208
    Manifold- Standard adapted to fit
    Turbo- T25
    Decomp- http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-V...d=p3286.c0.m14
    Headgasket-
    Cambelt-
    Dump valve-
    Mapping- Do myself with mf2
    Oil feed, return-
    Sump return-

    Im hoping it wont be too long till get everything then i can start sorting getting everything on, etc. Im hoping to be selling my fullcage and puting the money towards getting another car so can work on the sax without having to worry about getting on road in a certain time.
  164. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo
    #164
    Id get your decomp plate from somewhere decent, cituning do them at £80, bit steep but you don't want one thats going to split after a bit of hammer.
  165. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #165
    my turbo kit...
    mani
    turbo
    down pipe
    sandwich plate (for oil cooler)
    oi cooler
    cap for sandwich (plate to block off oil filter so you can relocate if needed)
    braided hoses for oil cooler ( and oil filter if you relocate)
    turbo oil feed hose (braided)
    sump for turbo oil drain.
    2 water feed pipes t pieces to connect to water pipes.
    all gasgets.
    intercooler
    boost pipes
    silicone hoses to connect boost pipes.
    jubilee clips.
    decomp plate or forged
    afr guage as your using mf2 and u have that whole set up so thats ok

    i think thats it lol if that helps in any way. sorry if any bad spelling aswell cant be botherd to read agen. and i will soon smash my bluetooth keyboard ha
  166. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #166
    Someone earlier on said that, that decomp is a good one. Sexoturbs you thought any more about selling your intake pipe as want abit cheaper one if can. Will the intercooler be big enough? I see that alot of boosted owners have that same sort of intercooler size wise, etc but ben vts said his over heats abit.
  167. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #167
    if i was you id buy the 2.25" boost pipe kit as the vtr tb is 2.25 and the intercooler ports are 2.25 so itl save you buying reducers etcs and basically stop you messing about with diff diameters on just about every joint, keeps things simple and stops your boost flow being restricted
  168. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #168
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Someone earlier on said that, that decomp is a good one. Sexoturbs you thought any more about selling your intake pipe as want abit cheaper one if can. Will the intercooler be big enough? I see that alot of boosted owners have that same sort of intercooler size wise, etc but ben vts said his over heats abit.
    aah mate im having a nightmare with my car will have been of the road 2 weks this weekend just waitin to get my fuel rail, drive shaft, engine mount and cap for my oil filter relocation. before i get it back on the road.
    if you can wait untill say 24th i can let you no. if i cant afford my standalone, injectors and remap. i will just buy my ecu and injectors and get it fitted and maped next month. if thats the case then i wil be getting all new boost pipes fitted. so can let you no on the 24th
  169. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #169
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sexoturbs View Post
    aah mate im having a nightmare with my car will have been of the road 2 weks this weekend just waitin to get my fuel rail, drive shaft, engine mount and cap for my oil filter relocation. before i get it back on the road.
    if you can wait untill say 24th i can let you no. if i cant afford my standalone, injectors and remap. i will just buy my ecu and injectors and get it fitted and maped next month. if thats the case then i wil be getting all new boost pipes fitted. so can let you no on the 24th
    Ye that sounds good mate. Might have to wait till get paid on like the 30th and what sort of price you looking at?
  170. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #170
    Anyone know if a golf mk4 1.8t intercooler would be ok and fit ok as my mate wants a bigger one for his and can have his standard one.
  171. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598
    #171
    depends how big they are matey, any intercooler will help!!
  172. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #172
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Ye that sounds good mate. Might have to wait till get paid on like the 30th and what sort of price you looking at?
    not to sure yet. ill sort you out tho if i do sell it. but ill give u a final answer on 23rd
  173. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #173
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Anyone know if a golf mk4 1.8t intercooler would be ok and fit ok as my mate wants a bigger one for his and can have his standard one.
    any intercooler wil be good. just make sure you got somewhere to mount it..
  174. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #174
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sexoturbs View Post
    not to sure yet. ill sort you out tho if i do sell it. but ill give u a final answer on 23rd
    Cool. I like the intercooler ive seen on ebay for £110 but would like something abit cheaper at first. As thinking of finding a vts engine but then thats a few hundred pound that could go on turbo build. But i have got the rad and fans on, Got the ecu would just need unlocking, top mount.
  175. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #175
    well if you wana do it cheap you could get the gt5 intercooler prob get one for 30.. mount it under the bonnet and give it a cool air feed to cool it or maybe a scoop on the bonnet?
  176. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #176
    A r5 gtt? Well i can get my mates golf intercooler but not seen what looks like yet and whether it would be a ok fit behind the bumper.
  177. Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo
    #177
    ok, i have seen a few on golfs that are a good size and would fit. cant he send you a pic of it?
  178. Newbie Joined: Oct 2008 blackpool Posts: 14 400 bhp cozy ! 4door shit brown escort 2.1 full ze
    #178
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Well i coupd fit the injector in the elbow couldnt i? Where about would map sensor go? I would buy thel intercooler but after selling nos bottle as dont want run nitrous now, would prefer money to go toward turbo setup. Would that intercooler not be too big for lw boost?
    gis a bell mate ill deal you up sum bits for your convertion for your bottle if you want 07790925333
  179. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #179
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by turbodoctor View Post
    gis a bell mate ill deal you up sum bits for your convertion for your bottle if you want 07790925333
    I want to sell it tbh.
  180. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #180
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    I want to sell it tbh.
    What you selling mate.??
  181. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #181
    Nitrous bottle.
  182. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #182
    i see. maybe should have read a few pages back before asking but for a min there a thought you were talking about your car
  183. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #183
    By the way the vtr engine is dead. Sat on my drive feeling sorry for itself lol, On the look out for vts engine.
  184. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #184
    Found this
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TURBO-MANIFOLD...item5ad444e4c0
  185. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #185
    ryanmt on here already has one
  186. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #186
    Seems a good price for a turbo mani. Just depends on build quality.
  187. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #187
    Build qualitys alright, the pipes are stainless, flanges are mild/chromed.

    Weldings good, fitment seems a bit off though, the flange to the head will need some attention so it actually fits. Ovaling some holes and cutting a bit off the bottom.





    Gaskets it comes with look rubbish too! and 3bolt wastegates are rare as hell. Not sure why its got that flange on it atall. Its easy to remove though.
  188. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #188
    Wheres the best place to get a turbo from? That i know is going to be good condition and not fooked? Also dump valve and t piece? How much would management cost to buy if decided to get standalone?
  189. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #189
    You looking for a 2nd hand turbo.?? £650 will see you into the standalone management world with a pred ecu. Its what iam running and a few others are planning to use. Good bit of kit like.
  190. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #190
    Ye cant afford new atm. Was thinking t25 but now going for vts so not sure to stick with that idea still or t2,t28? How much would injectors cost, not expensive ones?
  191. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #191
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Ye cant afford new atm. Was thinking t25 but now going for vts so not sure to stick with that idea still or t2,t28? How much would injectors cost, not expensive ones?
    The “T” only refers to the turbo format. Take a look at the T25 flange with TB25 core that most people call a T25. You could get one with say a 47mm turbine and 51mm compressor yet another could have a with 53mm turbine and 60mm compressor. As you can see one is much bigger than another. Or in more simple terms look at the T3 that they fitted to the MG Metro turbo that had some 90bhp or so so had a really small T3. Yet the Ford Escort Cosworth also has a T3 and that has over 200bhp. So you can see its going to be a much bigger T3. You have to use the correct spec turbo for your application. Same is true for your injectors.
  192. Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802
    #192
    GT17 Turbo FTW.

    Andy
  193. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #193
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by luthor1 View Post
    GT17 Turbo FTW.

    Andy
    What car is that from?
  194. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #194
    The GT17 is the turbo CiTuning uses on their kits. The turbo iam running mate. Il give it the thumbs up like we found the injectors to use realy cheap on an American website. You can find the link on my progress thread mate. Save yourself over 100quid on them.
  195. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #195
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    What car is that from?
    They can be had from earlier (00-02) Saab's (petrol)

    On my GT17 the hot side is .47 / cold side is .53.

    ManC
  196. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #196
    Should i stick with vtr box or get vts to go with engine. Want it to pick up well and have good acceleration. What sort of extra top end would it have adding a turbo? Just wundered as know that turbo give more top end.
  197. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857
    #197
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Should i stick with vtr box or get vts to go with engine. Want it to pick up well and have good acceleration. What sort of extra top end would it have adding a turbo? Just wundered as know that turbo give more top end.
    Again all depends on spec. Say your running one bar of boost you would not wish to gear it down at all. If you got the gearing correct well over 150mph is easily possible. The old DP car running 1.1 bar hit 160mph before it ran out of gears. These are terrible cars to run at these speeds though even on a 2 and a half mile long airfield that is wider that a football fields you really are taking your life in your hands.
  198. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #198
    Might get this afr guage.
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AIR-CODE-MOVEM...item3356ee8e79
    Looks nice. Would like a wideband but are abit too expensive atm.
  199. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #199
    Thats just the gauge, no sensor or controller.
  200. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #200
    What sort of thing would you recommend. I like the alpha ones with the leds.
  201. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #201
    Innovate LC1 is cheap. Naw is cheaper with a display (14point7.com). It wouldnt be hard to sort out the display business once youve got a controller.

    Ive got this



    Which ill prob sell shortly for about £50 delivered inc a case. Tis a JAW wideband controller and display. Works with any bosch wideband sensor, can find them off audis in the scrapper etc or i got one new delivered for £32

    Tis like the megasquirt of widebands really but its pretty good. Has got pretty decent specs, has the hardware to do datalogging stored onto an onboard memory but its not implemented in the firmware yet
  202. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #202
    So you set it up on a laptop instead of a guage in the car? How much are the innovate ones?
  203. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #203
    Been looking at dump valve and t pieces but not sure about which one, Can i get one from any car aslong as the t piece is for same car as dump valve and then connect that too boost pipe using silicone hose?
  204. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #204
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    So you set it up on a laptop instead of a guage in the car? How much are the innovate ones?
    £150 from GMC but without display

    The Jaw jobbie is a serious alternative thou, if a assembled unit with display is available 'get it'

    ManC
  205. Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197
    #205
    Arnt the Innovate LC1's the ones Andy fits manc.?? Be pritty cool to get a display unit for like.
  206. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #206
    Could not get a in car display rather than needing laptop to use? I have my own laptop but just would like one have on all time.
  207. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #207
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ben_vts View Post
    Arnt the Innovate LC1's the ones Andy fits manc.?? Be pritty cool to get a display unit for like.
    Yes it is m8e, the above pictured displays are pretty cool for the money, you can get AFR gauge's to suit your's & mine LC-1 wideband, there not cheap thou I should know as I just spent £150 on the Innovate G3 AFR & boost gauges but that did include an expensive oil drain flange which the turbo kit didnt come with

    They both look like this: -



    Hope that helps.
  208. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #208
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Could not get a in car display rather than needing laptop to use? I have my own laptop but just would like one have on all time.
    Look at the link the Ryan posted, you'll see that the JAW gauge is on a flying lead which doesnt require a laptop, as its on the end of a lead you can position it on the dash somewhere.

    ManC
  209. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #209
    The needle type gauges just take a voltage range. Something like jaw you can configure. IE 9 afr =0v 19afr= 5v. So you can use any afr gauge with jaw.

    But it also includes a display like the one in my pics, Can be placed anywhere, and daisy chained, you could ahve 4 displays wired in with egt, boost, rpm and afr. The displays are only £15 each ish!!

    See display here

  210. Established Member Joined: Dec 2004 Derby Posts: 1945 Pug 207
    #210
    Ryan that looks like a really neat solution, you should get a couple made up and sell them as there seems to be no one selling prebuilt units, you would definatley have a few customer on here

    I have two lambda points on my downpipe so could plum in a second o2 gauge in for peace of mind that i'm not running lean/rich

    ManC
  211. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #211
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by manc View Post
    Ryan that looks like a really neat solution, you should get a couple made up and sell them as there seems to be no one selling prebuilt units, you would definatley have a few customer on here

    I have two lambda points on my downpipe so could plum in a second o2 gauge in for peace of mind that i'm not running lean/rich

    ManC
    Sounds like a good idea to me tbh.
  212. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #212
    Im getting a vts astandard mani with the engine getting. How can i get it adapted to get turbo on like the plate?
  213. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #213
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Im getting a vts astandard mani with the engine getting. How can i get it adapted to get turbo on like the plate?
    Anyone tell me this? As will get it done soon. And do you use the bottom part to make downpipe?
  214. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #214
    no don't do it that way although it may be fine it wont be great and welding cast is a twat
  215. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #215
    Where can i get a ok turbo mani from thats not to expensive? Ive seen the ones that are new on ebay for £200 that seem ok.
  216. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #216
    just get that s/s steel manifold off ebay ryanmt has get a t25 or t2 which will bolt right onto that manifold all you need to make is the downpipe then which will be piss easy.
  217. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #217
    Can i get the downpipe made at somewhere that makes exhausts? As my mate works in one and can get it done cheap.
  218. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #218
    yes easy
  219. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #219
    Do i need a adapter for turbo to adapt to downpipe? How can i use the standard mani for turbo for the time being? Just want to get it running then upgrade in the near future. Im not too bothered about it costing abit more, etc. I just want a base then upgrade certain parts.
  220. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #220
    Maybe getting a forge intercooler.
  221. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #221
    Ive now bought the forge intercooler. Might be getting dump valve with t piece. I was just thinking of what other guages to get aswell as boost and a afr lamba one. Maybe oil temp?
  222. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #222
    boost, afr, egt, oil temp, oil pressure.
  223. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #223
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ryanmt View Post
    boost, afr, egt, oil temp, oil pressure.

    Whats egt? Im going to put 3 guages where stereo goes as would good using a stereo blank to put them in then also got a A pillar double guage pod. Is there much difference between the lamba afr and a normal one that cost like £30??
  224. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #224
    would vtr or vts be better for turbo engine? I was planing on keeping vts box on vts engine.
  225. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #225
    How much work is a 200sx mani to fit a vts as found this but seen on here that they fit but just wundered how much work was involved?
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NISSAN-200SX-S...item3ef45292a8

    Or would just go for this
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/TURBO-MANIFOLD...item5ad444e4c0
  226. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #226
    I was thinking of getting a t25 turbo when was going to turbo the vtr but now thinking of t2, t28?? I know the t28 has more power bhp wise but unsure which for low boost but maybe changing piston, etc in the future.
  227. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #227
    Can a standard ecu be mapped for turbo setup as would be better than 5th injector setup fueling wise??
  228. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R
    #228
    As far as I'm aware it cant.

    But I thought the same about standard Ecu and TB's - but it has been done.
  229. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #229
    I wouldnt mind standalone but just too expensive atm and then remap on top thats why ive got for 5th injector as ive already got all the fueling sorted now and still be alot cheaper and aslong as be setup right i dont think can go wrong.
  230. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #230
    Anyone know about 332cc delphi injectors and how much they are new and will they fit a vts?
  231. Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5
    #231
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jsdvtr View Post
    Can a standard ecu be mapped for turbo setup as would be better than 5th injector setup fueling wise??
    can it be done, yes - in theory. Very tricky to do though and i dont think anybody ever bothered.
  232. L-plater Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 96
    #232
    theory is the same as that of running standard management on bodies i think, you need somone to hange the Load capacitor which currently runs as the manifold absolute pressure sensor (MAP) to somthing else (i cant remember what(possibly ICV)) however for the cost that it would take AND THEN to find somone who could do this *(Presumably chipwizards) you would be ebst going with standalone management jamie, Somthing like megasquirt i assume with a wideband lambda sensor however i dont know that much about turbos as they dont come into my field that much i work only on NA Vehicles regarding tuning but i am assuming that the above info is correct and that its completly not finacially viable as management is relativly cheap considering the cost of making standard ecu run it.

    Also new management like KMS, Mega squirt etc are much easier to work on in ths future, regarding faults and such like, and just for reference we mapped a WRC Cosworth without a rolling road and got the perfect map on it which saw more power than the Msport WRC Escort cosworth (Back in the day)
  233. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s
    #233
    Anyone know about the delphi injectors?? Need to know pretty asap please.