best cam without remapping

1. user_31021 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Walsall. West Mids Posts: 736 Venetian red Mk1 VTR on Banded rallye steels

   #1 20th August 2009, 03:48

   as above? want something fairly lairy but without needing a remap
2. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

   #2 20th August 2009, 09:37

   Newman's PH3 give you a rough idle, but don't need mapping.
   
   However for the £300 you don't get their full potential without the map ontop.
   
   EDIT: Why do i always assume everyone has valvers......
3. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

   #3 20th August 2009, 09:42

   Is it true that cams increase emissions?
   
   Sorry for hijack...
4. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #4 20th August 2009, 09:47

   if its VTR or westie then looking at a kent pt40 or a piper 270 or newman ph1 for no remap at all to run fine. Obviously more gains with remap / standalone
5. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

   #5 20th August 2009, 09:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Maxamus Is it true that cams increase emissions? Sorry for hijack...

   To help you understand ill explain.
   
   The cams have little notches on them, called lobes. The lobes are of a larger size in lift (length from the centre of the cam to the tip of the lobe) and duration (total width of the lobe) than the standard cams. Which means they open your valves higher and for longer. This lets in more air/fuel which gives you the power increase.
   
   So yes the emissions will go up as your burning more air and fuel. However im sure there are a few cars out there with cams that pass emissions tests.
6. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #6 20th August 2009, 10:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ste So yes the emissions will go up as your burning air and fuel. However im sure there are a few cars out there with cams that pass emissions tests.

   The thing that I don't get is how come when people install new cam(s) they get better mpg!
7. iw_laurence Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Isle of Wight Posts: 1971 BMW E30

   #7 20th August 2009, 10:09

   ive got a pretty wild cam for sale with pully for sale in the fs section and that was fine without a remap, but needed larger inlet
   
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=246632
8. vtr_chris90 Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26

   #8 20th August 2009, 20:17

   well the best cam you can use that wouldnt need a remap is the cam used in the rallye and xsi heads, but you will need a rallye or xsi head to run them
   
   these cams are 270deg and 10.3/10.6mm of lift depending on which one you use, it is a mild cam and will run without a remap, as it uses standard timings etc
   it has more lift than all the other aftermarket cams, and more duration than some after market cams
   
   and its alot cheaper doing this aswell than buying an aftermarket cam
   
   it would cost you 70quid for the head then 30 to 40quid for skim, clean and new stem seals to be fitted, then you just need service bits so your looking at about 300 really doing it this way, add another 100 to that if you buy an aftermarket cam
   
   i was going to do this to my car, but i managed to get into a group buy on newmans cams, so decided to get a bigger cam needing a remap
9. lancerayner89 Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 4

   #9 11th January 2010, 00:19

   hi, im getting my vtr cammed, will it run fine with out a re map, or will i need a re map aswell
10. Percy01 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 199 51 Plate Mk 2 Vtr :P

    #10 11th January 2010, 00:46

    Hey ^^ if u read anything these guys have written then depending on the cam youd have a rough idea !
11. lancerayner89 Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 4

    #11 11th January 2010, 00:52

    thanks for getting back to me, will have a read threw the comments now, cheers
12. lancerayner89 Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 4

    #12 11th January 2010, 00:54

    also what induction kits would anyone recomend for my vtr
13. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #13 11th January 2010, 12:29

    dont hijack somebody's thread, have a search on panel filters.
14. lancerayner89 Newbie Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 4

    #14 11th January 2010, 13:37

    never ment to, as you can see by my name im a newbie