The Next Stage - My Cunning Plan...

28th August 2009, 11:39

Right, i've pretty much done everything doing without going overboard on the money side of the things to get my car to how it stands today.

I dont want to just cam it, i am going to take it further.....

However my engine is on 75k - not loads, but not enough to convince me not to mod it.

So my plan is to buy a low milage c2 vts engine, which from what i understand is a straight forward swap.

Then we get rolling - Forged Pistons, conrods, maybe new crankshaft for stroker kit, Turbo Cams and Finally.....Turbo Conversion!! - I've forgotten the name, but there is a dutch company that make the best custom manifolds.

Budget 6 - 8k

Apart from all the extras i will need for turbo conversion, i will definately need 4-pots and a full rollcage, and struts everywhere!

M3 eater

28th August 2009, 11:48

does sound like a splendid plan but i can see you spending abit more

28th August 2009, 11:53

Very splendid. Im not going to bother with stroker kit, but will still be around 8k

28th August 2009, 11:54

dp engineering iirc

28th August 2009, 11:54

Do engineering

28th August 2009, 12:00

taken from www.dp-engineering.nl/ENG

Equal length TU 16v turbo manifold

The 'Blister' has exactly matched equal lengths for the individual runners to insure excellent performance and a high power output. The manifold has been designed to accept any Garrett GT25 or GT28 turbocharger (including the GT28RS and GT2871R) with internal wastegate actuator. Without internal gate, placement of larger turbochargers possible.
Key Features:

Fits all TU 1360cc 16v and 1587cc 16v engines (Both TU5J4 and TU5JP4)
Equal length individual runners
Low angle merge collector
Thick walled high quality stainless steel (316Ti) or mild steel construction
TIG welded
Full back purge 100% argon (only on stainless models)
Accepts large turbochargers up to GT2871RS with internal wastegate and stock actuator position!
Available with various turbine intake flanges
Options:

Can be ordered with external wastegate connection
Stainless 2.5" downpipe available for most Garrett turbochargers
Application Notes:

Using a short oil filter (FRAM PH 5796) will create some extra room for the downpipe.
On TU5JP4 engines the oilfilter needs to be relocated to the TU5J4 position. Instructions are included with the manifold

Manifolds are custom built to order

Price:- 546.06 Euros

28th August 2009, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojamaboo

dp engineering iirc

Cheers mate - thats the one, they have a 106 turbo project - 320 at the fly!

28th August 2009, 12:02

They've got a saxo vts project too, I keep looking at it and dreaming.......
Good luck with the conversion mate!

28th August 2009, 12:32

Seriously, everyone i know(myself included) who has had a big power saxo or 106 has admitted it was pointless and a waste of money.

Regardless of how much dosh you throw at it, it won't be reliable.

You remove a lot of the fun factor from it.

It takes a lot more skill to drive.

You won't even get 1/4 of your money back

You can just buy a car that is turbod as standard and do a few small mods, for the same cash. It will hold the value, be reliable, not be a saxo, have enough seats to carry people and you'll actually be able to use the power.

28th August 2009, 14:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexR

Seriously, everyone i know(myself included) who has had a big power saxo or 106 has admitted it was pointless and a waste of money.

Regardless of how much dosh you throw at it, it won't be reliable.

You remove a lot of the fun factor from it.

It takes a lot more skill to drive.

You won't even get 1/4 of your money back

You can just buy a car that is turbod as standard and do a few small mods, for the same cash. It will hold the value, be reliable, not be a saxo, have enough seats to carry people and you'll actually be able to use the power.

were is the fun in that if you got the money go for it or buy a evo

28th August 2009, 14:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexR

Seriously, everyone i know(myself included) who has had a big power saxo or 106 has admitted it was pointless and a waste of money.

Regardless of how much dosh you throw at it, it won't be reliable.

You remove a lot of the fun factor from it.

It takes a lot more skill to drive.

You won't even get 1/4 of your money back

You can just buy a car that is turbod as standard and do a few small mods, for the same cash. It will hold the value, be reliable, not be a saxo, have enough seats to carry people and you'll actually be able to use the power.

Spot on advice.

28th August 2009, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexR

Seriously, everyone i know(myself included) who has had a big power saxo or 106 has admitted it was pointless and a waste of money.

Regardless of how much dosh you throw at it, it won't be reliable.

You remove a lot of the fun factor from it.

It takes a lot more skill to drive.

You won't even get 1/4 of your money back

You can just buy a car that is turbod as standard and do a few small mods, for the same cash. It will hold the value, be reliable, not be a saxo, have enough seats to carry people and you'll actually be able to use the power.

enjoyed it though overall?

28th August 2009, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ge0_Ge

enjoyed it though overall?

probably for the 10 mins it worked for yeah.

28th August 2009, 15:56

the one that springs to mind with reliability is deans gti
fucking epic car
cant put its power down properly
and didnt even make it to french car show from what ive seen he blew the clutch up
and since then i think hes rebuilding it as driving with no clutch wasnt exactly good for

so in total after a few months building i think he had a few weeks drivig it and then it was back off the road again

28th August 2009, 17:57

if you want to do it pal then do so. wish i had the pennies like you!

cheers
stew

29th August 2009, 19:44

I enjoyed my TBd saxo quite a bit but i must have spent 200 hours or so just making it all useful then it fried it's loom after i sold it. And the only reason i bought it was because a mate had spent all of the cash getting the expensive parts and i just rebuilt the car.
I would never have spent the £15k total of building that car, i paid a hell of a lot less than that, spent a little on it, sold it for more than i bought it for...

29th August 2009, 19:53

Should be good if you pull it off!

29th August 2009, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by olly_vts

Right, i've pretty much done everything doing without going overboard on the money side of the things to get my car to how it stands today.

I dont want to just cam it, i am going to take it further.....

However my engine is on 75k - not loads, but not enough to convince me not to mod it.

So my plan is to buy a low milage c2 vts engine, which from what i understand is a straight forward swap.

Then we get rolling - Forged Pistons, conrods, maybe new crankshaft for stroker kit, Turbo Cams and Finally.....Turbo Conversion!! - I've forgotten the name, but there is a dutch company that make the best custom manifolds.

Budget 6 - 8k

Apart from all the extras i will need for turbo conversion, i will definately need 4-pots and a full rollcage, and struts everywhere!

M3 eater

6-8k

Im turboing mine for 3-4k

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexR

Seriously, everyone i know(myself included) who has had a big power saxo or 106 has admitted it was pointless and a waste of money.

Regardless of how much dosh you throw at it, it won't be reliable.

You remove a lot of the fun factor from it.

It takes a lot more skill to drive.

You won't even get 1/4 of your money back

You can just buy a car that is turbod as standard and do a few small mods, for the same cash. It will hold the value, be reliable, not be a saxo, have enough seats to carry people and you'll actually be able to use the power.

I no a guy what has put a turbo on gti running (250 bhp at the fly) an he has no problems up to yet!

29th August 2009, 20:08

If you wanna do it then go for it, your car your money

Like atm im planning on chucking a 3.0 litre engine in my bmw and supercharging it

Just remember the facts, its still a saxo it will be off the road more than on. You will never get any of the money back, you will eat tires like a fat kid eats cakes. And the fun go kart part of the saxo will be dead

29th August 2009, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3cott

6-8k

Im turboing mine for 3-4k

I no a guy what has put a turbo on gti running (250 bhp at the fly) an he has no problems up to yet!

I know there are cheaper ways, but i want to do it properly lol

http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/proj...ti_gt2871r.php

Check this shit out man!

29th August 2009, 20:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexR

I enjoyed my TBd saxo quite a bit but i must have spent 200 hours or so just making it all useful then it fried it's loom after i sold it. And the only reason i bought it was because a mate had spent all of the cash getting the expensive parts and i just rebuilt the car.
I would never have spent the £15k total of building that car, i paid a hell of a lot less than that, spent a little on it, sold it for more than i bought it for...

Thats the way mate

29th August 2009, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by olly_vts

I know there are cheaper ways, but i want to do it properly lol

http://www.dp-engineering.nl/EN/proj...ti_gt2871r.php

Check this shit out man!

I am doing it properly

29th August 2009, 20:46

Good on you then man. Take me for a spin when its done