S1 Rallye Inlet & TB on a VTR

1. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

   #1 5th September 2009, 11:40

   Right guys, looking for some hard information on using the 106 S1 Rallye inlet manifold & throttle body on a silvertop VTR.
   
   I'm not after massive performance, i'm simply doing it because I want to do something fancy with the aluminum body of the inlet...yeah yeah I know!
   
   Anyway, I've found a few S1 inlets / TB's for sale fairly cheapish so I just want to straight out the installation first.
   
   1) Do I need the S1 fuel rail / injectors?
   2) Do I need the S1 ECU or can I make it work with the VTR ECU?
   
   They include the sensors needed to make it run / function but the main thing i'm worried about is the ECU.
   
   Cheers for any help!
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 5th September 2009, 12:03

   no ecu no fuel rail no injectors, all you need is the inlet mani and tb, with all the sensors intact on tb, you use the map and icv off the vtr, search mate, theres a guide to fitting
3. iw_laurence Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Isle of Wight Posts: 1971 BMW E30

   #3 5th September 2009, 12:13

   be prepared to do some fiddling to get it to run right aswell
4. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

   #4 5th September 2009, 13:36

   Yeah I read that the ICV can be a pain to get working correctly!
   
   I canny find this guide you mentioned, is it just a thread or actually in the premium member guides?
5. iw_laurence Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Isle of Wight Posts: 1971 BMW E30

   #5 5th September 2009, 13:39

   no think its in engine and performance section list of faq's was the exact rallye inlet that i fitted to mine
6. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #6 5th September 2009, 21:31

   ill link it mate 2 mins, a nd i had probs but that was with the tb not the icv i think this is what many have found when tryin to fit, piece of piss mate belive me
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 5th September 2009, 21:37

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=178273 there you go mate, relly its easy just ake your time
8. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

   #8 6th September 2009, 10:28

   Sweet as, just paid for the unit so I should have it with my by Wednesday/Thursday then I can get to grips stripping it down & painting it!
9. webby Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456

   #9 6th September 2009, 11:42

   paint it? mirror polish it.
10. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

    #10 7th September 2009, 12:42

    Polish it thats what ive done looks grreeat!
11. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

    #11 6th November 2009, 01:12

    Bit of a thread revival but I ended up grinding the pug logo off, shot blasting it and coating it glossy black, looks 100x better now!
    
    
    
    
    
    I've started pulling the rallye TB apart, was wondering if I'd be able to clean up the housing, paint it etc.
    
    Also, is it really gonna be worth porting / polishing the inner lip when it's only being fitted to to a VTR?
    I can't see the gains being worth it?
    
    
    
    
    
    Lastly, for anyone interested, I've put some dimensions below:
    
    Standard Mk1 VTR Throttle Inlet
    54mm ID
    60mm OD
    
    S1 Rallye Throttle Inlet
    60mm ID
    65mm ID
    
    K&N Apollo CID
    65mm ID
    70mm OD
    
    
12. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #12 6th November 2009, 08:26

    Get it ported and polished, theres a few people on here that do it. Cant hurt, and its only cheap
    
    I noticed a nice increase in throttle response, and the car picked up more instantly and pulled a little harder.
13. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

    #13 6th November 2009, 09:36

    Any chance of a link to who could do it on here and what sort of tooling are they using?
    
    I'm not paying someone to do with with a grinding attachment on a dremel, I could do that myself!
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 6th November 2009, 10:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Marcus000 Any chance of a link to who could do it on here and what sort of tooling are they using? I'm not paying someone to do with with a grinding attachment on a dremel, I could do that myself!

    thats what the people do on here lol!!
    
    just do it yourself, personally id leave the tb alone.
15. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #15 6th November 2009, 12:44

    You cut just clean it up a little yourself, polish it etc
    
    Cut the spindle
    Knife edge the butterfly
    bore the actual TB out my a mm or 2
    smooth any lumps/bumps/ridges out etc