Newbie after a turbo!!!! please!!!

1. haz4814 Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Leamington area. Posts: 6 2001 Saxo VTS

   #1 8th September 2009, 21:58

   Hello there, new to the forum, got my vts about a month ago totally standard, picked it up for £600 yes thats rite £600 so was a bit of a steal realy!!!!! :
   
   
   
   
   ive modded the exterior to my liking and also the interior which is as follows:
   
   Lowered 60 at the front, rear adjusted to match
   White vts alloys refurbed wrapped in toyo proxes
   Debadged front grill
   Rear badges sprayed gloss black
   De-wipered boot lid
   Raised bonnet
   Aerial removed
   Black metal plates
   Fully stripped interior
   Corbeau buckets (pair of)
   Sparco harnesses (pair of)
   Battery re-located to boot
   Enclosed induction kit
   Decat pipe
   
   
   
   
   
   
   thats it so far, ive leftperformance modifications out so far as wasnt sure what route to go down, throttle boddies or turo!?!
   
   Now im looking into getting it turbod! where would be the best place to buy a turbo kit from as i am more than able to fit myself and aren't too keen on paying thousands to get one fitted!!!
   
   Any ideas let me no asap!!!!!!!!!!!
   
   or if any of you have any turbo parts for sale let me no!!!!!
   
   Also is there supercharger kits out there on the market for these tu engines? ? ? ? ? as a friend of mine had a 205 gti with a supercharged gti-6 lump in and it was mental!!! and would love to get a saxo to the same sort of spec.
2. user_22208 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Wirral Posts: 5011

   #2 8th September 2009, 22:03

   I wouldn't turbo a engine from the off if I'm honest. Do Cams, re-map, induction kit, exhaust system etc.
   
   And theres somewhere in the NW that does a Turbo fitted for £500, but I wouldn't trust it.
3. Dark_Hero Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Lydd, Kent Posts: 307 Saxo Vtr - mauritius blue

   #3 8th September 2009, 22:05

   Looks pretty good. Those plates are probs illegal tho, so watch out when your driving.
   Does cituning do a turbo kit?
4. user_34087 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 8662 8 Valve 'R.

   #4 8th September 2009, 22:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Pieface I wouldn't turbo a engine from the off if I'm honest. Do Cams, re-map, induction kit, exhaust system etc. And theres somewhere in the NW that does a Turbo fitted for £500, but I wouldn't trust it.

   Those are minor gains in comparison to a turbo though.
5. user_22208 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Wirral Posts: 5011

   #5 8th September 2009, 22:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by RichardBound Those are minor gains in comparison to a turbo though.

   But a Turbo, you would rather have a stronger engine than a standard one.
6. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #6 8th September 2009, 22:14

   That reminds me, how is whats his names £500 Turbo doing?
   
   Forget his Username, havnt seen his thread in a while.
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 8th September 2009, 22:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Pieface I wouldn't turbo a engine from the off if I'm honest. Do Cams, re-map, induction kit, exhaust system etc. And theres somewhere in the NW that does a Turbo fitted for £500, but I wouldn't trust it.

   wasting money if boost is the final plan
   
   mani will be no use
   nor will induction kit
   
   and n/a and boost cams are very different and cant be used on the other application tbh (ie a set of newman ph3 which is a nice popular n/a camshaft set is useless on boost)
8. user_34087 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 8662 8 Valve 'R.

   #8 8th September 2009, 22:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Pieface But a Turbo, you would rather have a stronger engine than a standard one.

   Ah, yeah, you need to upgrade other stuff ideally, extra power, you'd want better brakes, suspension, the basics of course, strengthen the engine to cope with the increase in power.
9. haz4814 Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Leamington area. Posts: 6 2001 Saxo VTS

   #9 8th September 2009, 22:40

   obviously id look at upgrading all the relavant parts when turboing a car, thats just common sense tbh!!
   i looked into throttle bodies but thought it was alot of work for not as much power as boosting, so id opt for the turbo, i no its alot of work but it i think it would be more worthwhile!
   
   ye cituning do do a turbo kit if your prepared to pay an arm and a leg for it!! but i suppose it would all be decent stuff an nock off nigel cheap shit!!
10. jamseyp Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Bridgy,somerset Posts: 1127 saxo vts 16v

    #10 8th September 2009, 22:42

    600 pound wat a bargain lol
11. Cal Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Conwy Posts: 7982 Fwee Fiddy Z, 182Cup, 106 GTaiiii, School Bus.

    #11 8th September 2009, 22:43

    
12. haz4814 Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Leamington area. Posts: 6 2001 Saxo VTS

    #12 8th September 2009, 22:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cal

    as if!! ha
13. haz4814 Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Leamington area. Posts: 6 2001 Saxo VTS

    #13 8th September 2009, 22:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamsey 600 pound wat a bargain lol

    i no, tell me about it!!! amazing what bargains can actually be found on ebay!
14. haz4814 Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Leamington area. Posts: 6 2001 Saxo VTS

    #14 8th September 2009, 22:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_Hero Looks pretty good. Those plates are probs illegal tho, so watch out when your driving. Does cituning do a turbo kit?

    ye i no, picked them up from trax at the wekend just to see how they looked, i mite try my luck with them on for a while too!!
15. user_22208 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Wirral Posts: 5011

    #15 8th September 2009, 22:55

    You deffinitely won't have luck with those plates, opposed to French plates the police can VERY easily see they are illegal.
16. yetisvtr Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 milton keynes Posts: 334 saxo mk1 vtr in posssiiiii blue

    #16 9th September 2009, 00:02

    very nice bargin how you find it?
17. haz4814 Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Leamington area. Posts: 6 2001 Saxo VTS

    #17 10th September 2009, 18:31

    i was judt searching through ebay and found it on there, gave them a ring n went n picked it up!! simples!!
18. user_25927 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl

    #18 10th September 2009, 20:29

    don't turbo a standard engine, it will break, uprate the other stuff first, ie suspension and brakes then start at the engine with cams, mani, gearbox, etc then go to a turbo if you think its not enough. i personally don't like adding a turbo to a car which was not designed for one, just not worth the hassle, mind you though a car which came with a turbo as standard are great
19. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #19 10th September 2009, 20:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pieface I wouldn't turbo a engine from the off if I'm honest. Do Cams, re-map, induction kit, exhaust system etc. And theres somewhere in the NW that does a Turbo fitted for £500, but I wouldn't trust it.

    The worst advice really for ££££.
    
    As cams and then a remap will then see you needing another map (ecu) and if wild cams used, totally the wrong set of cams for a boosted engine.
    
    On topic GMC for all things boost.
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 10th September 2009, 20:36

    and moved to the technical sections to try and eliminate the general chat noob advice
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 10th September 2009, 20:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jordysport don't turbo a standard engine, it will break, uprate the other stuff first, ie suspension and brakes then start at the engine with cams, mani, gearbox, etc then go to a turbo if you think its not enough. i personally don't like adding a turbo to a car which was not designed for one, just not worth the hassle, mind you though a car which came with a turbo as standard are great

    Many people have run long term and with good power on OE engines.
22. miamibluebaby Established Member Joined: May 2009 Ellesmere (Shropshire) Posts: 1044 superchared 106 gti

    #22 10th September 2009, 21:42

    i would see no reason not to turbo a standard engine if some time, thought, money and effort is put in, a low boost set up would see you good gains and not strain the engine to much if the mapping is good then you onto a winner, for a cheap boost thrill lookinto a mf2 and sigcon for the managment side of things and run a 5th injector, if your after a high boost set up then money will have to be spent im afraid, but its worth it in the long run bring on the wwwhhhhaaammm tttsshhh!! haha good luck
23. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #23 10th September 2009, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dark_Hero Those plates are probs illegal tho, so watch out when your driving.

    Odds are nore are his seat belts by the looks of things
24. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #24 10th September 2009, 21:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by haz4814 i no, tell me about it!!! amazing what bargains can actually be found on ebay!

    lol yup what a load of junk you mean
25. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #25 10th September 2009, 21:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Many people have run long term and with good power on OE engines.

    So true. The old DP cars were 200+ bhp on a just about stock engine :Y: clutch were the real problems. They ended up using Helix group N and then moved on to AP lug drive. Not cheap
26. user_36929 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Bristol Posts: 101 Citroen Saxo 1.5D

    #26 11th September 2009, 13:34

    fitting a turbo will NOT damage ur engine all it does is forces air into the air filter making it run richer this is only a tempory performance increase the only down side is you will have to completly customise your manifold as it is spun by the exaust gasses but its entirely up to you good luck
27. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #27 11th September 2009, 13:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paulio1000 fitting a turbo will NOT damage ur engine all it does is forces air into the air filter making it run richer this is only a tempory performance increase the only down side is you will have to completly customise your manifold as it is spun by the exaust gasses but its entirely up to you good luck

    more air makes it leaner
    you then up the fuel to compensate keeping the mixture of air/fuel about the same
    
    and it will as it creates a lot more force on the pistons rods and crank due to the bigger bang pushing them down
28. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

    #28 11th September 2009, 13:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AXracing Odds are nore are his seat belts by the looks of things

    what? why, harnesses are road legal.
    
    Some pretty random advice in this thread.