Saxo VTS or Lupo GTI

1. Saxo_Vtr_MK2_98bhp Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7

   #1 13th September 2009, 15:40

   Hi guys. MY bro has just bought a Lupo GTI and claims it is faster than a VTS. Just wondering what your take on this is? It did feel fast I gotta say. He said the 0-60 times are not a true reflection because the VTS hits it in 2nd gear wheras the GTi has to go into 3rd. He also claims the GTI holds its power in the higher gears a little more than the VTS.
   
   Woud like to get the two cars in a drag race, would be interesting.
   
   So if you were in a 1mile race and your life depended on it, which of the two motors would you climb in?
2. Saxo_Vtr_MK2_98bhp Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 7

   #2 13th September 2009, 15:41

   P.S I put this on the general forum too but not sure if that one worked. Am new to this site lol
3. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #3 13th September 2009, 16:15

   I am not overly familiar with the Lupo range and from my search the numbers vary but they all put the same Saxo VTS as a notably quicker accelerating car with it being around a quarter of a second quicker to 60mph in standard trim with similar top speeds. If your doing a race from 0 to anything speed up to 100mph possibly 110/120mph I would be confident the VTS would have legs. Much more than that and your talking terminal speeds so give it a long enough road and whatever one had the edge on top speeds would eventually win. But saying that with older cars you never really know as it all comes down to how well the cars looked after. Only really way to try it is to go to a straightliners event and have a go. Bit pointless though as the result would have no relevance to any UK race track, drag racing or even the road after all lol
4. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #4 13th September 2009, 16:18

   I would imagine the Lupo is alot heavier? *Goes to look on Parkers now* lol..
   
   Also, both 120bhp aren't they? Saxo has to be lighter, so I would think the VTS would win tbh
5. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #5 13th September 2009, 16:23

   Lupo:
   
   0-60 = 8.0 secs
   Power = 123 bhp
   Torque = 112 lb-ft
   Top Speed = 127 mph
   Weight = 1015kg
   
   VTS:
   
   0-60 = 7.6 secs
   Power = 120 bhp
   Torque = 107 lb-ft
   Top Speed = 127 mph
   Weight = 935kg (thought vts was lighter tbh)
   
   Anyway, there ya go..
   
   
   Also, they are only insurance group 11... If I got one, it would have to look like this
   
   
6. DeeBeeVTS Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 141

   #6 13th September 2009, 17:45

   I test drove a lupo GTI at the same garage where I bought my VTS, trust me, the VTS is considerably quicker, and handles better.
   
   I think the only thing that the lupo had over the vts in my opinion was the interior/quality
7. jamseyp Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 Bridgy,somerset Posts: 1127 saxo vts 16v

   #7 13th September 2009, 18:01

   vts would kill the lil lupo lol,both r nice cars but the vts all the way
8. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #8 13th September 2009, 18:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DeeBeeVTS I test drove a lupo GTI at the same garage where I bought my VTS, trust me, the VTS is considerably quicker, and handles better. I think the only thing that the lupo had over the vts in my opinion was the interior/quality

   Like you say, quality of a VW is second to none. No squeaks or rattles lol.
9. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #9 13th September 2009, 18:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JRC1 Like you say, quality of a VW is second to none. No squeaks or rattles lol.

   Until you start working on them then you realise its all a myth
10. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #10 13th September 2009, 21:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JRC1 Like you say, quality of a VW is second to none. No squeaks or rattles lol.

    Lupos are still quite bare inside, not quite what everyone expects from a VAG.
    
    they are fun little cars.
11. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #11 13th September 2009, 21:34

    Would have gone for one instead of a VTS if I had the money.
12. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #12 13th September 2009, 21:36

    Rather have vts ........
13. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #13 13th September 2009, 21:39

    wouldnt swap my vts for one......but then again i wouldnt swap it for anything.
14. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #14 13th September 2009, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA wouldnt swap my vts for one......but then again i wouldnt swap it for anything.

    good lad!! vts for ever..........
15. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #15 13th September 2009, 21:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxokid100 good lad!! vts for ever..........

    dam right mate, mrs would be devastated if i even thought about selling it.
    
    i plan on keeping it in the garage forever.
16. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #16 13th September 2009, 21:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA dam right mate, mrs would be devastated if i even thought about selling it. i plan on keeping it in the garage forever.

    Thats like me and my 15 year old metro gti.......well luved
17. jasonwellwicked Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2007 On a road near you! Posts: 336 Saxo mk2 VTR

    #17 13th September 2009, 21:47

    Ive had two saxo's now and so for that reason alone would want a change (just to make things a bit more interesting).
    
    Further the insurance classification (11 for GTI vs 14 for VTS) is a winner for a 20 year old.
18. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #18 13th September 2009, 23:16

    VTS would be a bit quicker.
    
    But they do leave VTRs.
19. n123 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 144

    #19 14th September 2009, 01:28

    my vts won by 5 cars of distance a drag with a lupo gti 6 speeds, from 50 km/h to 150
20. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #20 14th September 2009, 06:41

    Im pretty sure the Lupo is more in the 900kg to at most 980kg.
    
    Not as quick as the VTS, BUT the build quality is to a much higher standard. My friend has one (not a GTi) but its so nice to drive/live with.
21. ukgaz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Maidenhead Posts: 683 Saxo VtR '52

    #21 14th September 2009, 07:23

    LUPO = UGLYYYYY!!!!!!!
    
    Come on look how much Jeremy Clarkson bitched about it
22. kenny Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2005 Near St Andrews Fife Posts: 4631 Saxo Westcoast (sold) mr2 turbo

    #22 14th September 2009, 09:35

    why post the same thread twice ??????????
    
    its called spam and also pointless. read the forum rules