1.1 box on a vts

  1. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #1
    is anyone running a 1.1 box on a vts?im thinking about putting one on mine as my s box has blown...what are they like??
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010
    #2
    Ive heard they are shite, different ratio's completely aren't they?
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #3
    closer ratios.so better accelleration from what ive been told.
  4. Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 k-in-a, notts Posts: 1858 bmw 330ci sport !
    #4
    there no good mate its a eco box so longer ratios so there rubish. if you want a good box look into getting a 106 s1 ralle box or 106 xsi 1.4 box there make it feel loads better,
    but i would not recomend putting a 1.1 box in mate.
  5. Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 manchester Posts: 146 Black vtr mk1 saxo 1.4 westie Mango
    #5
    Sorry to jump on some1 else's thread but what about a 1.4 westcoast box on a vts
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #6
    ye idealy id want a rallye box but there a bit hard to get hold of...
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Doncaster Posts: 749 vtr - 16v conversion y0!
    #7
    ant a 1.1 box got a smaller diff???
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by djadzvtr View Post
    ant a 1.1 box got a smaller diff???
    dont think so
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Doncaster Posts: 749 vtr - 16v conversion y0!
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by saxokitney View Post
    dont think so
    just what i heard in a similar thread mate......just that its got a smaller diff so it wears out quicker??
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #10
    ye i heard they dont last as long as an s box butt i dont use the car that much so not to worried.cheers tho..
  11. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 N.Wales Posts: 7746 e46 M Sport
    #11
    iirc, the 1.1 box doesnt have the sport ratio's like the vtr and vts.

    Like said above a s1/s2/1.4 xsi box is the best
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #12
    hmmm.i thought because the 1.1 only has a top speed of 110mph or so,the ratios would be much closer??maybe i got it wrong
  13. Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Rotherham Posts: 346 02 plate Silver saxslo desire 1.1
    #13
    1.1 top speed of 110mph :/
  14. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504
    #14
    since when did the right section get deleted?

    jesus...
  15. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2005 Porthcawl Posts: 5726 FQ Volvo V70R Peugeot Partner
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ashleyp View Post
    since when did the right section get deleted?

    jesus...
    what??
  16. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #16
    as in the technical section which im now moving this to.

    And 1.1 boxes generally are shite, do use smaller diffs dont have a sports cluster etc etc...
  17. L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Portrush Posts: 50 Saxo,Civic,306 sedan,BMW,BMW,Civic,BMW,406,Civic,S
    #17
    Just got mine back with the 1.1 box and if anything its better than the vts
  18. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Hertford/Derby Posts: 1272 MG BGT, AX Gti
    #18
    Do your own research, a lot of people seem to talk paff on here about 1.1 box's. Look up the code on the box your looking at, then check out its ratio's on 106oc, the box's have very similar ratios. They do indeed have a smaller diff but quite a few people run them without any issue's at all.
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  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Sussex Posts: 3891 2x 106 GTi
    #19
    The 1.1 boxes run similar ratios to the VTS but as said they are not the sports boxes so they are not as strong as they are not built to handle very high torque. If using for everyday/moderate driving and just want a cheap replacement then it should be fine but if you regularly drive the car hard go for a sports box. I prefer the 1.1's gear ratios to the VTR box though, avoid any box with longer ratios than the 1.1 tbh
  20. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2004 Denny United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 666 Ford focus 2.0 Saxo VTS
    #20
    the splined bit in the diff is not as long on poverty spec gearboxes, 1.1 is similar ratio to vts, furio gearbox has shorter first and second gear then same as vtr
  21. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5
    #21
    Diff is smaller, but people make out that means it'll go pop the first time you try to launch.

    Simple fact is, i've done plenty of trackdays, plenty of hard launches on the 1/4 mile, and mine's still living, there's a slight whine in 1st gear (which has been there for a long time), but other than that, there's no issues with the box.

    The ratios in the box aren't 'sports' ratios, no, but as long as you're changing up just short of the limiter, you still drop back well into the power.

    The only issue I have with my box is that at 70mph it's sat at 3500rpm, which is one of the loudest places for the car to sit in the revs in mine, so on the motorway I have to sit at just under that (circa 3000rpm/60mph).


    Bearing in mind, that's not having driven one with a VTS box on, so they may actually be better, they may not, but I just wanted to clear up a few things with people trying to make out that they're no good at all.