stuck torsion beams

1. Andy_Mack Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Glasgow(ish) Posts: 157 Mk1 VTR

   #1 22nd September 2009, 20:00

   Need a bit of help, lowering the rear of the saxo, issue I have is that the torsion bars refuse to come out.
   
   have tried the bolt and socket method (snapped several bolts)
   
   And hitting the other end with a big hammer and a combination of both methods
   
   it hasnt moved at all
   
   Any ideas? I read somewhere that jacking up the trailing arm will take the stress out of the bar and make it easier, is this true?
   
   cheers.
2. Ryan8v Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Exmouth Posts: 164 Landrover Defender

   #2 22nd September 2009, 20:58

   Try the socket and bolt method again but this time try it with a nut aswell as in the picture below then do up the nut as tight as it will go then get underneath the car and hit the torsion bar with a copper hammer so that you do not damage it then do the nut up some more and just keep repeating untill the bar is out hope this helps
   
3. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #3 22nd September 2009, 21:05

   we have attempted that already with no luck
   
   They are seriously stuck in after 3 snapped bolts and lots of hammering its not moved atall
4. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #4 22nd September 2009, 21:13

   there is no reason at all that the bar method wont work. make sure all four washes and nuts are out, use a strong long bar, place it on a axle stand at the write hieght and beat it stupid with a descent size hammer. get someone to hold the bar down if need be.
5. Ryan8v Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Exmouth Posts: 164 Landrover Defender

   #5 22nd September 2009, 21:17

   Are you hitting the bar at the other end or underneath as in the picture below
   
6. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #6 22nd September 2009, 21:23

   oxyacetylene . . . sorted.
7. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #7 22nd September 2009, 21:49

   basically we have taken everything out that has to come out. tried pulling it out with the nut and bolt method and broke two bolts its in so tight. we tried hitting the other end of the bar with a extension bar and hammer and underneath the bar while doing this.
   
   Still it wont move at all
8. Ryan8v Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Exmouth Posts: 164 Landrover Defender

   #8 22nd September 2009, 21:58

   oxyacetylene then as tonto_VTR said
9. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #9 22nd September 2009, 22:00

   whats that ?
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 22nd September 2009, 22:18

    yea burn the grease out the beam great idea tonto
    
    just do what aron said its not failed yet for me (or willsy/lee who do torsion bars quite a bit)
    if it does get a bigger hammer
11. karlos_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 swansea Posts: 136 Silver Mk2 Saxo Vtr

    #11 22nd September 2009, 22:28

    I made that mistake the washers are well disguised! dont use oxyacetylene, shouldnt heat suspension parts, makes them brittle!
12. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #12 22nd September 2009, 22:35

    how many washers is there to take out ?
    
    ive taken the one out thats kinda recessed down if you like at the end of the torsion bar. is there others ?
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 22nd September 2009, 22:36

    there are 4 washers 1 each end of each bar

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14. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #14 22nd September 2009, 22:39

    the is four total. one on each end of the bar. dont use oxyacetylene, shouldnt heat suspension parts that hot like that

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15. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #15 22nd September 2009, 22:40

    aww i know why its not coming out now. ive not taken the washer out the other end of the bar
    
    cheers for the help guys
16. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #16 22nd September 2009, 22:40

    bigger bar, bigger hammer and a large bear to hit it
    
    never fails
17. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #17 22nd September 2009, 22:41

    Fucking LOLZ.
18. mikeydamike L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Brack L.A Posts: 46 Saxo furio /yellow :P

    #18 23rd September 2009, 19:31

    slide hammer should do the job and put loads of mokey grease on it
19. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #19 23rd September 2009, 21:18

    slide hammers are shit!