another turbo question

1. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #1 24th September 2009, 16:07

   ive got a t25 shall i get shut and sell it and get this instead
   TURBO GT28 (flange T28)
   
   wastegate settle at 9psi
   
   OIL AND WATER COOLED
   
   0.60 A/R
   TURBINE: .86 A/R
   TRIM: 60
   can support up to 400CV
2. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #2 24th September 2009, 16:48

   i'd stick with the t25 mate, or get a gt25r which is the same but just spools quicker, with the 28 you'll have more lag, i have a 28, and think i'll have more lag than i'll be happy with!

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3. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #3 24th September 2009, 17:46

   ditto unless going for mega power the 25 will be fine

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4. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

   #4 24th September 2009, 17:48

   i have no idea about turboin but cant u just use an anti lag kit ?
5. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #5 24th September 2009, 18:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO i'd stick with the t25 mate, or get a gt25r which is the same but just spools quicker, with the 28 you'll have more lag, i have a 28, and think i'll have more lag than i'll be happy with!

   thanks very usefull comments
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush ditto unless going for mega power the 25 will be fine

   thanks very usefull comments
6. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #6 24th September 2009, 18:32

   t25 is better for low boost
7. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #7 24th September 2009, 18:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by RaNDoM i have no idea about turboin but cant u just use an anti lag kit ?

   no there shit and dont work m8
8. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

   #8 24th September 2009, 18:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by sliderz no there shit and dont work m8

   fair play, ill shut up on this subject now
9. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

   #9 24th September 2009, 18:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 t25 is better for low boost

   got forged rods and pistons want high boost m8 at least 12 standard maybe 15 to 25 plus i not pay shit loads for rod ...pistons for nothing they can take 1000bhp garantied want to crank it up snap a few drive shafts and kill my gear box till i get the money to difs and other shit
10. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #10 24th September 2009, 18:40

    r yeah i forgot you got forgies mate, gt15 are SUPPOSEDLY GOOD for small cars wanting good power but i have no first hand experience with them, just a few friends whove done 1.4 clio conversions etc
11. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #11 24th September 2009, 18:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM fair play, ill shut up on this subject now

    if your thinking of turboing your car you can learn alot from this site but its not cheap cost me shit loads at mo nearly lost girlfriend over it ....one asks him self is it worth it losing gf ...fuck yeah sure is ...but she came round to my thinking so all good
12. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #12 24th September 2009, 18:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz if your thinking of turboing your car you can learn alot from this site but its not cheap cost me shit loads at mo nearly lost girlfriend over it ....one asks him self is it worth it losing gf ...fuck yeah sure is ...but she came round to my thinking so all good

    yeh i spend most my time lookin at all the turbo threads i can n lookin at ppls turbo progress blogs, i realy want to turbo my car but i need to get a job first and then ill start sourcing all the parts i need bits at a time close call with your gf lol
13. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #13 24th September 2009, 18:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM yeh i spend most my time lookin at all the turbo threads i can n lookin at ppls turbo progress blogs, i realy want to turbo my car but i need to get a job first and then ill start sourcing all the parts i need bits at a time close call with your gf lol

    ya was a close call but she like all woman like a bit of boost ....all sorted now ... best bet m8 is buy bits you need but dont do any to car tiil you got all bits i took the engine out to soon . i had a vtr put the 16v in ran it for 4 week then thought fuck it turbo the engine then after i took it out thought shit me this is gonna cost loads to do it wright so i nick the gf car and use that but mines still dead at mo
14. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #14 24th September 2009, 18:57

    lmao my gfwas pissed of when i told her i was rebuilding my car with a turbo conversion, not that she understood what a turbo conversion is, but when explained she got all excited and said " aw ya gunna have a car that sneezes, i wanna car with a cold!"
15. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #15 24th September 2009, 18:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz ya was a close call but she like all woman like a bit of boost ....all sorted now ... best bet m8 is buy bits you need but dont do any to car tiil you got all bits i took the engine out to soon . i had a vtr put the 16v in ran it for 4 week then thought fuck it turbo the engine then after i took it out thought shit me this is gonna cost loads to do it wright so i nick the gf car and use that but mines still dead at mo

    haha fair play, wot work do u need to run forged pistons? as if i was guna turbo id get cams pred ecu and forged pistons n wotever needs doin for that to work b4 gettin the turbo bits.
16. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #16 24th September 2009, 18:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 lmao my gfwas pissed of when i told her i was rebuilding my car with a turbo conversion, not that she understood what a turbo conversion is, but when explained she got all excited and said " aw ya gunna have a car that sneezes, i wanna car with a cold!"

    lmfao niceee, just means once ur done with urs ur guna have to turbo hers aswel
17. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #17 24th September 2009, 19:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM lmfao niceee, just means once ur done with urs ur guna have to turbo hers aswel

    she not got a saxo its more like a bus
18. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #18 24th September 2009, 19:00

    a doubt it mate shes lust learning, and she likes going fast, its gunna cost me enough getting her on the road never mind giving her boost
19. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #19 24th September 2009, 19:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM haha fair play, wot work do u need to run forged pistons? as if i was guna turbo id get cams pred ecu and forged pistons n wotever needs doin for that to work b4 gettin the turbo bits.

    pred ecu id say shit hot even thow i dont have one yet but heard so many good things ... cams you dont need them just up the booost forged piston rock will take over a 1009 bhp the ones i got . standerd crank will take over 890 so no prob there tu engine is well balanced and pritty good for this only time you will get a prob is if some nob did not torque the rod propperly you could hit 300 bhp on a 16 v with write set up im looking for 145 bhp joking but not a nob that gose around and says ill get this and that bhp ill get what the engine puts out ...
20. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #20 24th September 2009, 19:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 a doubt it mate shes lust learning, and she likes going fast, its gunna cost me enough getting her on the road never mind giving her boost

    took her out in m8s evo other day ....talk about wet knickers ...ew sticky
21. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #21 24th September 2009, 19:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz took her out in m8s evo other day ....talk about wet knickers ...ew sticky

    lmfao too much info
22. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #22 24th September 2009, 19:17

    yh but for forged pistons do u need major head work or not? or is it a case of whakin em in ( carefuklly )
23. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #23 24th September 2009, 19:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM lmfao too much info

    wel got some nice bucket seats now in mine to soak that up ...should be ok
24. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #24 24th September 2009, 19:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM yh but for forged pistons do u need major head work or not? or is it a case of whakin em in ( carefuklly )

    forged pistons cost loads and if your gonna make it fast and be able to crank up boost get them you dont need to touch the head really unless you wanna go sick and get turbo cams but im not they do fuck all any how on forged just crank it up
25. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #25 24th September 2009, 19:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz wel got some nice bucket seats now in mine to soak that up ...should be ok

    lmao, rather ur seats than mine

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26. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #26 24th September 2009, 19:33

    when gettin forged pistons do u need to get the forged pistons and steel con rod set? or is it advised to ? cos cituning do the set for £895 and to me that isnt much to spend to insure ur engine will last
27. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #27 24th September 2009, 19:36

    Sliderz what power you aiming for mate? because with 12psi and forgies make sure you have some new under crackers
    
    In all honesty with the 25 you wont have a thing to worry about
28. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #28 24th September 2009, 19:40

    well its up to you getting that the engine will be sweet and tbh did not no cituning did it at that price thats good got mine from usa 790 the lot so not far of that if your gonna do it like propperly get a 1.9 of gmc head gasket a t25 or as i was thinking after this thread a t28 ebay fr do turbo manifolds with external waste gates up to you ...
29. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #29 24th September 2009, 19:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush Sliderz what power you aiming for mate? because with 12psi and forgies make sure you have some new under crackers In all honesty with the 25 you wont have a thing to worry about

    im aiming for what eva i can get ...going the whole hog ill not no till its on the rollers . drove m8s evo loads thats 340 ... all im worried about now tbh is drive shafts and gear boxes ill end up brakeing the fuckers like got a paddle clutch but that wont help when i 100 driveshafts down .
30. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #30 24th September 2009, 19:49

    hahaha fun read... lost my gf over my saxo turbo lol. i didnt mind to much untill she came around to try smash it up :O thats prob the only time ive ever been angry in my life! no1 messes with the sax!
    
    forged is 1200 fitted from pug1off ill be getting mine dont in jan. geting 480cc injectors, 1.5 bar mapsensor, emerald ecu fitted and tuned end of october. will just run about 8 or 9 psi for now. really wanna get 200bhp out of my 90bhp vtr...this will all be on my decomp plate untill i can afford to forge it. then up goes the boost
31. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #31 24th September 2009, 19:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexoturbs hahaha fun read... lost my gf over my saxo turbo lol. i didnt mind to much untill she came around to try smash it up :O thats prob the only time ive ever been angry in my life! no1 messes with the sax! forged is 1200 fitted from pug1off ill be getting mine dont in jan. geting 480cc injectors, 1.5 bar mapsensor, emerald ecu fitted and tuned end of october. will just run about 8 or 9 psi for now. really wanna get 200bhp out of my 90bhp vtr...this will all be on my decomp plate untill i can afford to forge it. then up goes the boost

    m8 get a vts engine if its 1200 fitted for vtr i think you will be well happy vts forge can hit 270 i would ges quite cheap im after what ever it puts out but im looking ad l.s.diff now ... anyone want a part ex on the girlfriend low millage lol
32. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #32 24th September 2009, 20:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz m8 get a vts engine if its 1200 fitted for vtr i think you will be well happy vts forge can hit 270 i would ges quite cheap im after what ever it puts out but im looking ad l.s.diff now ... anyone want a part ex on the girlfriend low millage lol

    :O id be happy with anything around 180 tbh but hey if i can get more if i get forgies ill deff do it
33. littleracer Trouble Maker Joined: Feb 2008 hook,hamshire Posts: 3426 black citroen saxo mk2 & focus ST '225',merc C180

    #33 24th September 2009, 20:01

    just get a fake dumpvalve noise thing from halfrauds,bwarp teeeeesh
34. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #34 24th September 2009, 20:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by littleracer just get a fake dumpvalve noise thing from halfrauds,bwarp teeeeesh

    no dont think were talking about fake shit like you might have on your car sorry
35. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #35 24th September 2009, 20:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz m8 get a vts engine if its 1200 fitted for vtr i think you will be well happy vts forge can hit 270 i would ges quite cheap im after what ever it puts out but im looking ad l.s.diff now ... anyone want a part ex on the girlfriend low millage lol

    waste of time mate. the vtr actualy works better with the turbo so iv herd. if you forge you vts and only get tht then your doing something wrong. pug1off said to me if i get them to fit my forged pistons and get the t25 turbo i can run up to 300bhp if i can keep it on the road. if you doing it all vtr or vts dosent matter they both will amazy you
36. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #36 24th September 2009, 20:49

    how do u get it to sich high bhp?
37. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #37 24th September 2009, 21:27

    what do you mean? with my set up pug1off said that they can give me 220 bhp but thats on a decomp plate so i sed i only want it up to 200 if i can. it will be geting done end of october so ill se what i get when its done
38. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #38 24th September 2009, 21:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexoturbs what do you mean? with my set up pug1off said that they can give me 220 bhp but thats on a decomp plate so i sed i only want it up to 200 if i can. it will be geting done end of october so ill se what i get when its done

    i got a vts and to get it to like 250bhp say ( not sayin im aimin at that ) wuld that be possible with forged pistons and a turbo setup just by winding boost up or wuld i need loads more work done to teh engine?
39. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #39 24th September 2009, 22:00

    with standalone ecu, bigger injectors, say sotin like t25 turbo then yea just turn the boost up. i think you could do 250 easy if you do it all right
40. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #40 24th September 2009, 22:03

    say if i managed to get it to 250bhp wuld i need an uprated clutch or wuld the standard 1 be ok if i dnt drive like a twat lol ?
41. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #41 24th September 2009, 22:05

    yes get a uprated clutch it wont last long.
    
    im getting diesel gearbox for my vtr. paddle clutch and lsd
42. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #42 24th September 2009, 22:05

    ok so should i get rid of t25 and get a t28
43. ben_vts Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197

    #43 24th September 2009, 22:08

    You carnt help but drive like a twat. Once the pedle is down and boost kicks in you have to have the will power of a 1000 men just to let off and change gear. Be aware that turbo is a drug. And there is no medication for it.
44. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #44 24th September 2009, 22:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ben_vts You carnt help but drive like a twat. Once the pedle is down and boost kicks in you have to have the will power of a 1000 men just to let off and change gear. Be aware that turbo is a drug. And there is no medication for it.

    couldnt agree more! and the best drug too ha
45. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #45 24th September 2009, 22:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz ok so should i get rid of t25 and get a t28

    i am using the t2 at the min but will be getting the t25. id say the t25 is perfect its a good size but not soo big that you get lag. i dont see why you would want to change it???
46. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #46 24th September 2009, 22:14

    ok. are the cituning competition clutch kits ok or would i need specific ones to handle that power? i just wuna figure it all out so i know wot to get once the money is cumin my way
47. ben_vts Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197

    #47 24th September 2009, 22:14

    Sexoturbs i sent you an invite ages ago. You not got it.?
48. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #48 24th September 2009, 22:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ben_vts Sexoturbs i sent you an invite ages ago. You not got it.?

    invite??
49. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #49 24th September 2009, 22:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz ok so should i get rid of t25 and get a t28

    i dnt have a clue but most ppl replied in this thread bout u keepin the t25 lol but if u want to donate me teh t25 ill say get teh t28 lol
50. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #50 24th September 2009, 22:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM ok. are the cituning competition clutch kits ok or would i need specific ones to handle that power? i just wuna figure it all out so i know wot to get once the money is cumin my way

    not sure paddle cutch is better but my m8 with evo says there to snappy and go organic so fuck knows hes got agp now ive got 4 paddle techni clutch onlt time wiil tell before i can tell and write if there any good
51. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #51 24th September 2009, 22:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM i dnt have a clue but most ppl replied in this thread bout u keepin the t25 lol but if u want to donate me teh t25 ill say get teh t28 lol

    haha thats cheeky.. is the t25 a hybrid one?? thats what im after hybrid t25
52. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #52 24th September 2009, 22:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sliderz not sure paddle cutch is better but my m8 with evo says there to snappy and go organic so fuck knows hes got agp now ive got 4 paddle techni clutch onlt time wiil tell before i can tell and write if there any good

    ok thnx ps im sorry bout hijakin ur thread lol
53. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #53 24th September 2009, 22:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexoturbs invite??

    how do i accept? i have a friend request aswell but dont no how to accept.. why cant der just be a big button that says accept or am i just blind?? let me have another look lol
54. littleracer Trouble Maker Joined: Feb 2008 hook,hamshire Posts: 3426 black citroen saxo mk2 & focus ST '225',merc C180

    #54 24th September 2009, 22:32

    oh manz but i wanting tooosh noise yO.
    
    would be ultra cool infront me bregines whilst wheelspinning and drifting.
55. sliderz Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 warrington Posts: 722 saxo vts turbo

    #55 24th September 2009, 22:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RaNDoM i dnt have a clue but most ppl replied in this thread bout u keepin the t25 lol but if u want to donate me teh t25 ill say get teh t28 lol

    yeah prob good idea keep the t25 see what i get then try a t28 see if any better
56. ben_vts Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 keswick Posts: 1166 Clio 197

    #56 24th September 2009, 22:33

    Its the invite to the boosted owners club mate. Put a tick in the picture and press save changes. I think thats how its works anyway.?
57. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #57 24th September 2009, 22:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ben_vts Its the invite to the boosted owners club mate. Put a tick in the picture and press save changes. I think thats how its works anyway.?

    nope i accepted the friend request now but the group ayn comin up the same hmmm i want in!
58. sexoturbs Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 luton Posts: 1013 saxo vtr turbo

    #58 24th September 2009, 22:50

    im in
59. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #59 24th September 2009, 22:56

    i want in lol guess iljust have to hurry up n get boostin cant wait i love acceleration
60. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #60 25th September 2009, 10:13

    Should i get a t2 or t25 for vtr turbo? I might be getting a vtr mani adapted for t2 turbo cheap.
61. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #61 25th September 2009, 12:56

    t2 and 25 and 28 havethe same flange dont they?
62. RaNDoM Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 dorset Posts: 190 saxo vts

    #62 25th September 2009, 13:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 t2 and 25 and 28 havethe same flange dont they?

    yeah it is. i know i dnt know alot but i been researching loads and just looked it up