Important! : Wobbly Gear Stick

1. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

   #1 1st October 2009, 14:37

   There are essentially 2 causes of this problem
   
   A: Roll pin
   B: Shaft Socket
   
   I had the roll pin replaced which solved the problem for a while then it back back.
   
   So after many wiggles of the gear stick found out it was the rubber bush on the gear stick that meets the selector rod underneath the car.
   
   Part Number
   245052
   
   Description
   Shaft Socket
   
   Qty
   2
   
   Price Each
   4.12
   
   Total +vat
   9.52
   
   Hopefully problem sorted

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2. richy_t_123 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 newcastle Posts: 980 2002 silver vts

   #2 1st October 2009, 15:00

   thanks for that mine is starting to go like that and needs sorting
3. user_33563 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Eyemouth Posts: 1094 amazon green vts :)

   #3 1st October 2009, 15:42

   mines needs done wondered if the rods needed replacing, il try this first
   
   cheers
4. adamm Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 4004

   #4 1st October 2009, 16:07

   will a quick shift stop this anyway?
5. danny_b92 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 warrington Posts: 113 mk 1 saxo,amazon green 3 stud alloys baby :)

   #5 1st October 2009, 20:01

   i think mines goin too not to sure tho lol
6. Lozza_vtr Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Sunny Essex!! Posts: 2342 VW Golf Mk4 1.8T

   #6 1st October 2009, 20:08

   Here is a picture for you guys and gals, (parts circled in dark red).
   
   
7. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

   #7 1st October 2009, 20:10

   Nice one. I'll be giving this a go! Cheers.
8. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

   #8 2nd October 2009, 01:43

   There the ones. May i ask where you got the diagram from as may be useful
   
   Cheers
9. DANVTR91 Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 1

   #9 4th October 2009, 22:15

   ive got this problem but its not the roll pin or shaft sockets anyone got any ideas ?
10. sug7 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Swadlincote Posts: 697 Silver Saxo VTR

    #10 4th October 2009, 22:20

    yeah i have this problem 2 i will give it a go, if not i will look into the roll pin,
    
    and does anyone know if a quick shift cure's this?
    
    as stated above
11. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

    #11 5th October 2009, 01:41

    GE quickshift wont, but when i get these bush things fitted if there is still play ill be getting a proper quickshift
12. rushy_23 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Aug 2004 West Mids Posts: 15392 '98 EK9 N1

    #12 5th October 2009, 01:48

    Mines got a little wobble. Will look into this.
    
    The nut that feeds through the parts you mentioned, sometimes it works loose, so retightening it may help.
13. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #13 5th October 2009, 14:13

    mine is shocking loads of movement in all gears etc? havent properly investigated but all linkages appear to be ok
14. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

    #14 6th October 2009, 15:10

    Success
    
    Replaced the shaft bush's and WaW
    
    Also the clunkiness between gears was caused by the GE quick-shift. As it slipped down.
    
    Citroen never cease to amaze me at how the littlest things make the biggest difference
15. user_27898 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Morecambe Posts: 241 Citroen Saxo 1.1i X

    #15 6th October 2009, 18:32

    Excellent i think i need to change mine!, how difficult were they to change?
16. user_12874 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 London, England Posts: 734 Saxo VTS, Audi A6 Avant Quattro.

    #16 6th October 2009, 18:38

    
17. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

    #17 6th October 2009, 20:40

    is it possible to replace the bush in the 1st ball joint by the engine mount? Its a huge ball with liek a nylon bush inside but mines worn and seems to be wobbling from there...
    
    
    very helpful though
    
    
    +1!!
18. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #18 6th October 2009, 21:26

    yes it is possible 2 bolts and its removed
19. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

    #19 7th October 2009, 00:00

    Bloody hell. I'm gonna get on that on saturday then. Cheers guys
20. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

    #20 7th October 2009, 01:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TikkA Excellent i think i need to change mine!, how difficult were they to change?

    Very easy, just jack up the front of the car and locate the gear stick that connects to the selector on the gearbox then undo the bolt get a stanly and pry the plastic things off, pop the new ones on can reconnect, which can be a bit tricky but work the effort.

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21. user_30728 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 st.austell Posts: 2549 106 quiksilver

    #21 7th October 2009, 14:31

    if anyone is attempting this on the weekend, please could you take pictures, as i'm not the sharpest tool, when it comes to gearboxes !
22. sug7 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Swadlincote Posts: 697 Silver Saxo VTR

    #22 7th October 2009, 14:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jambmx91 if anyone is attempting this on the weekend, please could you take pictures, as i'm not the sharpest tool, when it comes to gearboxes !

    yeah i too would love someone to do a tutorial for this to...
23. user_30728 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 st.austell Posts: 2549 106 quiksilver

    #23 7th October 2009, 15:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sug7 yeah i too would love someone to do a tutorial for this to...

    we both suffer in the art of engineering !
24. user_27898 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Morecambe Posts: 241 Citroen Saxo 1.1i X

    #24 7th October 2009, 18:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jinx Very easy, just jack up the front of the car and locate the gear stick that connects to the selector on the gearbox then undo the bolt get a stanly and pry the plastic things off, pop the new ones on can reconnect, which can be a bit tricky but work the effort.

    
    Thanks mate , will be doing this very soon! I will do a tutorial when i do
25. user_27898 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Morecambe Posts: 241 Citroen Saxo 1.1i X

    #25 10th October 2009, 20:17

    Tutorial Here: http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=262989
26. MunkyBoy Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Maldon Posts: 2033 1. MK2 Chalked VT'd 1.1 2. MK1 VTS

    #26 8th November 2009, 16:47

    Out of interest - where could i buy the part for this?
    
    Thanks!
27. paulmitchell1984 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Wakefield West Yorkshire Posts: 101 MK2 Nova Corsa B x 2 Astra mk4 2.0 Sri Dti Sa

    #27 25th January 2010, 02:25

    hmm this may sort mine, but i dont think that these are missing, at the front of my car (underneath) theres like a round hole with a bar going through it that seems to have something missing but im not sure and my ocal citren garage are as helpful as a chocolate fire guard, il try get pics but thought id through it out there to see if nebody knew what i meant.
    
    Ta
28. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

    #28 25th January 2010, 03:28

    only other thing could be is the roll pin on the gear box,
    
    You can only really tell if they have play is by going underneath the car and giving the gear stick a wobble, if you don't have any then there would me monumental movement in the rear stick.
29. kistigun Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP

    #29 25th January 2010, 08:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MunkyBoy Out of interest - where could i buy the part for this? Thanks!

    i'm also interested in were to buy this or what are the dimension of the bushes?
30. MunkyBoy Established Member Joined: Nov 2009 Maldon Posts: 2033 1. MK2 Chalked VT'd 1.1 2. MK1 VTS

    #30 25th January 2010, 09:16

    I rang up citroen mate, and gave them the part number over the phone.
    
    Still need to do this actually!
31. greeny1 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Leicester Posts: 232 Black Saxo

    #31 25th January 2010, 12:09

    thanks jinx thats helped loads its been gettin on me nerves do u have to go to citroen dealer cheers again
32. greeny1 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Leicester Posts: 232 Black Saxo

    #32 25th January 2010, 12:11

    as in for the parts
33. user_59080 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2012 Glasgow Posts: 126 Saxo VTR

    #33 4th June 2012, 19:29

    thanks