VTR rear beam pin bearing:

1. andog Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Chester Posts: 3 In order: Fiat Uno 1.4T Renault Clio 1.2 Nissan

   #1 2nd October 2009, 10:25

   My VTR has failed its mot on the rear pin (roller) bearings. How hard / easy are these to change? I am a pretty competent mechanic but i don’t want to get in over my neck, can you get these bearing off and the new ones in without a press or will this be easier for me to take down to the local garage?
   
   Has anyone done this before? I don’t want to refurbish the beam because the bushes are fine and the actual beam is pretty clean.
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 2nd October 2009, 11:59

   the stub pins will be fucked, so the beam will be scrap mate. new beam or get some new pins made and pressed in yours.
3. andog Newbie Joined: Sep 2009 Chester Posts: 3 In order: Fiat Uno 1.4T Renault Clio 1.2 Nissan

   #3 2nd October 2009, 12:17

   Ah right, how much roughtly will new pins cost me?
4. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #4 2nd October 2009, 13:58

   We can supply new pins, citroen dont provide the new pins apart, they will want to sell you a complete beam (yellow part + pins) at 450quid + VAT + bearings.
   
   PM piggy123 for up to date prices on the stub pins.
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 2nd October 2009, 15:58

   you'll have a hard job finding some where with a good enough press aswell. i made a set for someone on here but he had trouble finding somewhere to press them in.
6. KrisB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405

   #6 3rd October 2009, 01:44

   Why do you guys ALWAYS say the stub pins will be knackered?
   
   I have rebuilt many beams and in only one case have very few pins needed replacing. I'm taking like 1 in 20. Depends how bad its gotten.
7. IM_axles Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Nottingham Posts: 464

   #7 14th October 2009, 11:18

   in most cases the stub pins do go when the bearings go
8. Noddy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4121 Mk2 Posi Blue 1.1

   #8 14th October 2009, 11:28

   my MOT this year came up with the same pin /bearing. In all honesty, the job was simple enough as i had access to get the pins and a press but it worked out far quicker/simpler and cheaper just to get another beam from a scrappy, condition that and whack it on.
   
   Only cost me £50 in the end rather $$$ it could have been
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 14th October 2009, 11:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KrisB Why do you guys ALWAYS say the stub pins will be knackered? I have rebuilt many beams and in only one case have very few pins needed replacing. I'm taking like 1 in 20. Depends how bad its gotten.

   because there is no inner race on the bearing the rollers act directly on the pin
   so once the bearing collapses it becomes very easy to damage the pin
   even a small amount of damage there will cause it to fail again as the bearing wont have a smooth surface
10. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #10 14th October 2009, 14:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KrisB Why do you guys ALWAYS say the stub pins will be knackered? I have rebuilt many beams and in only one case have very few pins needed replacing. I'm taking like 1 in 20. Depends how bad its gotten.

    Any pitting or marks on the pins = nackard. I hope you've not been "repairing them" when in fact your not.
    
    As Alex says, if you have any play 9/10 its the pins because the bearings just wear it away instantly.