NON Sunroof skin fitting

1. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #1 12th October 2009, 10:21

   Alright guys
   
   Im going to be fitting a non sunroof skin to my sax over the coming months.
   
   Im thinking of painting it white to carry on with the theme of my car.
   
   Or should i paint it black to match the car??
   
   
2. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #2 12th October 2009, 10:23

   Def black mate, im it would look better anyway its a bit tto much white on a hard as fook lookin car. And if you ever get rid of the white theme your stuck with a lairy white roof panel lol
3. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #3 12th October 2009, 10:27

   deninatly black mate i think that would be too much white.
   
   James
4. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #4 12th October 2009, 10:32

   faaaiirr enough. i doubt i'd change the colour scheme tbh. black and white does it for me. i doubt i'll be doing what every fucker does and put bright red,green,yellow on a black saxo
   
   
   true reason for my wanting to paint the roof white is i have 5ltrs of white paint left over and no citroen black left. dont fancy buying another tin of black
5. danovstbudo Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 plymouth Posts: 119 saxo VTR 1998

   #5 12th October 2009, 10:37

   black will look better imo how long dose it take to fit also were do u get the skin from?
6. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #6 12th October 2009, 10:40

   how long is a peice of string, im going to do it one weekend. should take 3-4 hours brother in-law will get the windscreen out in 20-30mins
7. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #7 12th October 2009, 10:41

   also getting the skin from pug direct
8. CooperVTR Frequent Poster Joined: May 2007 Telford Posts: 864 Gold Saxo VTR

   #8 12th October 2009, 10:43

   thought about a chequered roof?
9. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #9 12th October 2009, 10:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by CooperVTR thought about a chequered roof?

   na looks shit
10. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #10 12th October 2009, 10:44

    Only thing thats stopping me doing one myself is your meant to jig the shell when it goes back on to make sure everythings lined up right, i have no jig n ting
11. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #11 12th October 2009, 10:46

    checkerd look's awful
    
    do it black tom
    
    it's a track car anyway, looks dont matter lol
12. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #12 12th October 2009, 10:46

    lol sod that
    
    you dont really want to know how its getting reattached to the shell
13. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #13 12th October 2009, 10:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ashleyp checkerd look's awful do it black tom it's a track car anyway, looks dont matter lol

    yer it is a track car and your right looks dont matter but i do alot of road miles in it aswell so nice to keep it look as tidy as possible. especially whilst im trying to find a job
14. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #14 12th October 2009, 10:47

    plastic clips, keeping with the OEM theme? lol
15. danovstbudo Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 plymouth Posts: 119 saxo VTR 1998

    #15 12th October 2009, 10:47

    if you put a full cage in do you stil need a jig, mines a sun roof modle but it leaks ect plus non sunroof look alot better imo
16. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #16 12th October 2009, 10:51

    Fair point. Need to fit my cage whilst the cars off the road, dropping it in from above would be much easier
17. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #17 12th October 2009, 10:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo plastic clips, keeping with the OEM theme? lol

    rivets and clear sealer
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by danovstbudo if you put a full cage in do you stil need a jig, mines a sun roof modle but it leaks ect plus non sunroof look alot better imo

    in theory no providing its a big meaty cage
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo Fair point. Need to fit my cage whilst the cars off the road, dropping it in from above would be much easier

    100 times easier
18. iDaNz_VTR Established Member Joined: May 2009 Peterborough Posts: 1549 Mk1 Saxo VTR

    #18 12th October 2009, 11:55

    black mate looks mint
19. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #19 12th October 2009, 12:15

    black mate
20. Matt67 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 Kent Posts: 2653 1.6 16v C2 GT

    #20 12th October 2009, 14:17

    I reckon white would look awesome tbh, something different aswell.
21. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #21 12th October 2009, 16:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by iDaNz_VTR black mate looks mint

    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 black mate

    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matt67 I reckon white would look awesome tbh, something different aswell.

    i like the look of the black and white mini combo's hense the idea
22. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #22 12th October 2009, 16:10

    you not spot welding it back together tom?
    
    got a link to the ones on pugdirect?
23. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #23 12th October 2009, 16:13

    na i just went into my local peugeot and ordered a non sunroof skin. its not a website.
    
    im going to rivet and sealer it back on i think. might weld it but havent got any wire left
24. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #24 12th October 2009, 16:24

    Carbon?
    
    Nah, black, Aylesbury Ninja
25. Dan-Subtlem Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Westgate on Sea/Bexley Posts: 17223 Series 1 Rallye

    #25 12th October 2009, 16:26

    ah ok.
    
    how much was it from pug? part number?
    
    might get one for mine while im putting my cage in.
26. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #26 12th October 2009, 16:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle ah ok. how much was it from pug? part number? might get one for mine while im putting my cage in.

    Was just about to ask how much it was roughly myself as well.
    
    Its the expense of ftting and painting that put me off ages ago.
    
    James
27. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #27 12th October 2009, 19:04

    White imo...
28. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #28 12th October 2009, 21:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chris261287 Carbon? Nah, black, Aylesbury Ninja

    dont have the money for carbon, at the end of the day its not an f1 car so the extra 1-2kgs isnt going to hurt on a saxo
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dan-Subtle ah ok. how much was it from pug? part number? might get one for mine while im putting my cage in.

    dont have a part number buddy, i just asked for a 106rallye non sunroof skin. £115 was the price including vat.
    bic at streamline carbon has a spare one with a couple of small dents. he wants 70quid for it
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Was just about to ask how much it was roughly myself as well. Its the expense of ftting and painting that put me off ages ago. James

    as above mate its 115 inclusive of vat, they are easy enough to fit matey
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 3cott White imo...

    its a marmite thing
29. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #29 12th October 2009, 21:22

    Carbon Tom. Ill loan u the money lol
30. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #30 12th October 2009, 21:25

    no point mate, its not worth the cost to buy. i normally only drive my car in the evenings in the dark, so nobody would see it.
    
    carbon roof is just for pub talk/wanking - i dont drink so dont go to the pub. so no point
31. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #31 12th October 2009, 21:26

    oh
    
    wanted you to be my brother lol
32. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #32 12th October 2009, 21:26

    Black mate. White will look pants. They will need welding and sealing back on if you want to maintain the rigidity. Bear in mind your screen will also have to come out to remove your existing roof and refit the new one.
33. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #33 12th October 2009, 21:32

    suprised only 1 said white
    but ye black would look much better
    not often you see steelies that look well on the car, are they the 15" xsara ones or something?
34. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #34 12th October 2009, 21:32

    i think i have already mentioned about my brother inlaw being a windscreen fitter and he's removing it for me at the top of the thread.
    im looking into a very very big meaty cage that i will be welding in. thus allowing me to simply rivet and seal the roof on
35. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #35 12th October 2009, 21:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak suprised only 1 said white but ye black would look much better not often you see steelies that look well on the car, are they the 15" xsara ones or something?

    vts spare wheels
36. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #36 12th October 2009, 21:37

    Awesome, can't wait to see this done!! - I'm going to look to just bond mine on when I do it - with a cage in, tied into b pillars and the windscreen bonded in, will be fine.
37. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #37 12th October 2009, 21:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom i think i have already mentioned about my brother inlaw being a windscreen fitter and he's removing it for me at the top of the thread. im looking into a very very big meaty cage that i will be welding in. thus allowing me to simply rivet and seal the roof on

    My bad
    
    Why don't you simply weld the roof? Surely that's just as easy/neater than rivetting???
38. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #38 12th October 2009, 21:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz Awesome, can't wait to see this done!! - I'm going to look to just bond mine on when I do it - with a cage in, tied into b pillars and the windscreen bonded in, will be fine.

    exactly mate my cage is going to be something around 13 point cage thats including fixing to the a+b pillars with lots of extra bars in place for safety and strength.
39. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #39 12th October 2009, 21:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 My bad Why don't you simply weld the roof? Surely that's just as easy/neater than rivetting???

    sorry mate sounds like i was having a dig, i wasnt
    
    tbh there is no point deciding now, i'll decide the best method when the time comes. chances are it will get welded back on when the cage gets put together thinking about it.
40. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #40 12th October 2009, 22:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom sorry mate sounds like i was having a dig, i wasnt tbh there is no point deciding now, i'll decide the best method when the time comes. chances are it will get welded back on when the cage gets put together thinking about it.

    Too late, I've been mopping up the tears
    
    Seriously though, I had mine done (don't know if you remember) at the start of this year and the bodyshop said the only way to fit them is to weld them in.
    
    Also don't forget to buy a b pillar cross member, cos if you don't the roof will bend in at speed!
41. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #41 12th October 2009, 22:07

    yer i do remember mate was very smart. how do you weld carbon fibre? bond a metal frame then weld that?
    my cage will be welded or pressed up against the roof to support the shape.
42. pepper953 Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1280

    #42 12th October 2009, 22:49

    glad its your head an not mine when the roof peels off in a roll
    not havin a dig
43. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #43 13th October 2009, 00:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pepper953 glad its your head an not mine when the roof peels off in a roll not havin a dig

    surely a hefty cage going along the roof will be on his side tho?
44. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #44 13th October 2009, 00:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pepper953 glad its your head an not mine when the roof peels off in a roll not havin a dig

    the only reason for me having a roof once the cage is in, is to keep my head dry on a wet day
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak surely a hefty cage going along the roof will be on his side tho?

    ohh yes its not going to just be a square frame either,
    its going to be square with a X in the middle with bars going out from the middle of the cross to the side bars directly above my head.
    also coupled with a crash helmet i think i will be safe.
    
    my aim is to have the safest cage in a saxo ever made. i drive like a cu*t on track getting to speeds of over 120mph and hardly slowing for the bends.
    if im going to hit anything or roll it i want to be as safe as i can be.