cooper s superchargers

1. muddy_trousers Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Exmouth Posts: 334 White 98 VTR/S 145bhp

   #1 12th October 2009, 10:31

   when people say they fit straight on what exactly do they mean? what else would I have to get to put it on?
2. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

   #2 12th October 2009, 10:31

   not a straight fit, not the best power gains for the hassle, better off going for rotrex
3. danovstbudo Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 plymouth Posts: 119 saxo VTR 1998

   #3 12th October 2009, 10:53

   alot of fab work
4. muddy_trousers Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Exmouth Posts: 334 White 98 VTR/S 145bhp

   #4 12th October 2009, 13:18

   isnt the engine basicly the same as a 16v?
5. willtr Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR

   #5 12th October 2009, 13:26

   there was some theard about this before and a guy said all that was need was a bracket to mount the supercharger and to extend the pully wheel arm. i will try and find the thread if you want so you could have a read.
6. muddy_trousers Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Exmouth Posts: 334 White 98 VTR/S 145bhp

   #6 12th October 2009, 13:32

   good man
7. willtr Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR

   #7 12th October 2009, 13:38

   here is the thread just have a read and see what you think.
   
   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...r+supercharger
8. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #8 12th October 2009, 15:19

   not worth bodging a kit toegther. would be just as easy to go rotrex or if you want to go diy setup then turbo is allot easier.
9. danovstbudo Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 plymouth Posts: 119 saxo VTR 1998

   #9 12th October 2009, 19:47

   that thred is great info
10. webby Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456

    #10 12th October 2009, 19:55

    hi flow heads do a kit which consists of a modified charger and bracket.
    give them a quick ring if your serious.
11. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #11 12th October 2009, 20:53

    I am going to do this if I get bored
12. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #12 12th October 2009, 20:56

    go for it gav you know you want to, never looked into it but the price of cooper chargers aint cheap iirc, second is still high and theyre not that common to get a bargain
13. muddy_trousers Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Exmouth Posts: 334 White 98 VTR/S 145bhp

    #13 12th October 2009, 21:29

    that thread makes it very tempting. by cheep what do you think they meen, all in?
14. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #14 12th October 2009, 21:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 go for it gav you know you want to, never looked into it but the price of cooper chargers aint cheap iirc, second is still high and theyre not that common to get a bargain

    yeah looking at it the pipe work, i/c, hoses etc will be easy no need for a dv so just that lot injectors, charger some brackets job done
15. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #15 12th October 2009, 21:43

    few hundred quid all in for charger and belts and pulleys. If you can fabricate your own mounts etc. Eaton chargers were couple of hundred last time I looked. Admittedly that was a couple of years ago so might of changed now.
    
    If you want extras like cooler, lower compression for more boost, extra fuelling etc then you need to spend more
16. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #16 12th October 2009, 21:52

    oil cooler mmm thats another thing I will invest in, fuelling I know. Superchargin just got interesting....
17. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #17 12th October 2009, 22:09

    Just buy a Rotrex kit Gav. Big power = simples
18. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #18 12th October 2009, 22:17

    rotrex = bum for hire = painful = not good lol!
19. muddy_trousers Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Exmouth Posts: 334 White 98 VTR/S 145bhp

    #19 12th October 2009, 22:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy_K Just buy a Rotrex kit Gav. Big power = simples

    Kinda defeets the objective. Rotrex = Big power = Big money
20. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #20 12th October 2009, 22:19

    tell me about it!
21. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #21 12th October 2009, 22:26

    I know what you mean Andy but I will look into it properly will be interesting non the less
22. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #22 12th October 2009, 22:31

    Back on topic lol
    
    Yes the eaton charger could be done on the cheap if you hunt round for bargains. But you'll need to be patient and also be handy with a spanner/welder if you want it proper low cost. And you got to factor in oil cooler, intercooler, fueling compression if you want it reliable, unless you are goind to run it as a really low boost setup. But then there;s little point in doing it.
23. muddy_trousers Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Exmouth Posts: 334 White 98 VTR/S 145bhp

    #23 12th October 2009, 22:53

    I understand. So a grand would hardly see it.....?
24. willtr Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Seaham Posts: 358 Saxo VTR

    #24 13th October 2009, 11:50

    If you want to pick up the charger for cheap take a look on ebay as i have seen them going for around the £30 mark
25. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

    #25 13th October 2009, 13:24

    £1000 could see it up and running if you can find some bargains. Just use thicker headgaskets/decompression plates to lower compression, or 5th injector/mf2/sigcon for extra fuellling. Intercoolers can be got for £50 or less. Then you just need boost pipes and pulleys etc and some way of mounting everything.
26. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #26 13th October 2009, 21:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy_K few hundred quid all in for charger and belts and pulleys. If you can fabricate your own mounts etc. Eaton chargers were couple of hundred last time I looked. Admittedly that was a couple of years ago so might of changed now. If you want extras like cooler, lower compression for more boost, extra fuelling etc then you need to spend more

    so for a few hundred quid you could be running boost? obviously limited power gains nothing stupid?
27. Dboyvts Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 paisley Posts: 1211 supercharged vts, R324r gtr, Rb30 R32 gtr.

    #27 13th October 2009, 21:45

    can be done cheap would say average price of 1300, I would not use a eaton charger i would go the rotrex route if i was doing it all over again.
    
    Just remember when ever going down the boosted route that some form of oil cooling is needed more so if running some of the eaton chargers cose they can use engine oil like a turbo dose, will also need to budget for head gasket and head bolts if useing that to lower comp,

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