Another beam question

1. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #1 14th October 2009, 12:19

   Can a drum braked beam be converted to a disc one? If so how easy?
2. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #2 14th October 2009, 13:54

   yes it can. 4 bolts to get the beam off. depending on how rusty the bolts are, its quite long. iirc, you need vts brake lines as there not long enough i think?
3. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #3 14th October 2009, 14:05

   Yes it can, read my project thread that shows you how. Will need to cut and flare brake lines / fit full length vtr lines.
4. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #4 14th October 2009, 14:39

   Its only the stub axles I want to change if its possible. I have a VTR, I want to fit a drum braked axle from a 106 and fit my discs to it...possible or not?
   
   Got another VTr beam , but it was scarily useless. The mounts had rotted
5. user_7096 Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Market Bosworth Posts: 2482 106 XSi 1360cc

   #5 14th October 2009, 18:01

   VTR beams are disc beams, are you sure you dont have a westcoast or furio badged up fo be a VTR??
   
   as JP stated it is rather extensive the work that has to be done
6. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #6 15th October 2009, 01:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by piggy123 VTR beams are disc beams, are you sure you dont have a westcoast or furio badged up fo be a VTR?? as JP stated it is rather extensive the work that has to be done

   Nah, I have VTR, it has disc beam but its knackered. Got a vtr disc beam from scrappy, mounts rusted through. Can get a MINTED 106 beam but its drums, my question is can I take the stub axles off a disc beam and fit to the 106 drum braked one so I still have discs at rar
7. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #7 15th October 2009, 11:50

   You can take the trailing arms off yes, im not sure what you mean by stub axles?
8. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

   #8 15th October 2009, 12:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jpsaxo You can take the trailing arms off yes, im not sure what you mean by stub axles?

   the bits that the wheels go onto with the wheel bearing and the part that the caliper bolts onto
9. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

   #9 15th October 2009, 20:53

   It's a piece of piss dude. Take discs off, calipers and caliper mounts, then put an old hub nut nto your stub axle and gently (but firmly) knock it out until the hub can be removed, then with the hub removed carry on knocking it out. Same basic principles apply to the drum set-up.
   In theory, the stub axle should be replaced, but I've done this before and run them for a year without bother.
10. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #10 16th October 2009, 15:03

    Or just swap over the whole trailing arm which is even easier
11. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #11 16th October 2009, 20:32

    Don't you risk beaing colapse if you take the arm off?
12. davidharvey Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25

    #12 17th October 2009, 11:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpsaxo Or just swap over the whole trailing arm which is even easier

    How do you do that?
13. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #13 17th October 2009, 14:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Don't you risk beaing colapse if you take the arm off?

    No course not, what makes you say that? and at the same time you can check the beam is fine & re-greace/bearing it if needs be
14. Gordi Established Member Joined: Jul 2005 North East United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1303 Saxo Vtr

    #14 20th October 2009, 10:32

    if its a VTR it should have rear discs. ive just put a 106 1.1 axel on my car and swopped the drums for my discs. you need to redo all the brake pipes and swop the stub axels IF your putting discs on as the drum ones are shorter. we had a right chew knocking them out an had to heat the beam up in the end!!