Important! : my vtr has a.b.s??

1. j-9-p-1-g Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 welshpool Posts: 260 Black 1998 vtr R.I.P :( Red 1.1i saxo

   #1 17th October 2009, 15:48

   need new brake pads on a 1998 vtr.
   so went to shop to order some
   asked if it had a.b.s. I said no
   He pointed to some different pads and i said no they are the wrong ones
   i pointed to the a.b.s. pads,
   the guy said its got different brakes on then, or abs turned off???
   did some vtr's have a.b.s as an optianal extra??
   but how come ive got no a.b.s?? is it turned off???
   how do i turn it back on??
   any help would be appreciated
   thanks x
2. user_7256 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 7657

   #2 17th October 2009, 15:57

   i dont think you can turn it off, if it isnt working you will have a warning light on the dash.
   
   it was an extra on the vtr
3. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #3 17th October 2009, 16:12

   Even if you did have abs the actual caliper won't change
   it runs off the driveshaft
   look at your master cylender to see if you do
   if it has 4 lines coming out it's non abs if there's 2 then it's got it
   it was an extra iirc but not many took it
4. j-9-p-1-g Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 welshpool Posts: 260 Black 1998 vtr R.I.P :( Red 1.1i saxo

   #4 17th October 2009, 16:13

   o.k thanks
   but how come it has a.b.s callipers, if you get me lol
   there is no light on the dashboard????
5. user_25927 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl

   #5 17th October 2009, 16:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by j-9-p-1-g o.k thanks but how come it has a.b.s callipers, if you get me lol there is no light on the dashboard????

   the calipers are nothing to do with it, it shouldn't have different calipers. and if there is no lamp on the dash i doubt you have ABS,
6. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #6 17th October 2009, 16:23

   my vtr has abs, optional extra indeed
   
   another way to tell if you have it is there should be a logo on your dash when your key is on the first click, which is like a little white car swerving
7. fuggzy Newbie Joined: Feb 2011 Gloucestershire Posts: 22 98 citroen saxo vtr, silver. with optional dents !

   #7 24th February 2011, 14:59

   hi everyone, was wanting to upgrade to mintex grooved an drilled discs and uprated matching pads, but didnt know if my vtr had abs or not. looking at your post i dont think i have. i have 4 pipes on the master cylinder and no light on the dash when i turn the car on. is this deffo no abs????
8. Mangoed Newbie Joined: Jan 2011 Chesterfield Posts: 20 Phase 1 Westcoast Peugeot 205 project

   #8 24th February 2011, 15:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by fuggzy hi everyone, was wanting to upgrade to mintex grooved an drilled discs and uprated matching pads, but didnt know if my vtr had abs or not. looking at your post i dont think i have. i have 4 pipes on the master cylinder and no light on the dash when i turn the car on. is this deffo no abs????

   you dont have abs
9. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

   #9 24th February 2011, 16:19

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by j-9-p-1-g so went to shop to order some asked if it had a.b.s. I said no He pointed to some different pads and i said no they are the wrong ones i pointed to the a.b.s. pads, the guy said its got different brakes on then, or abs turned off???

   Sounds like you went to Halfords.
   
   As said, ABS would not make any difference, however there are different type of callipers. Just get matching pads to what you have taken off and take the advise of the shop with a pinch of salt.
10. fuggzy Newbie Joined: Feb 2011 Gloucestershire Posts: 22 98 citroen saxo vtr, silver. with optional dents !

    #10 24th February 2011, 19:20

    no i havent been to halfords lol was just wondering if i had abs or not as im gonna be ordering a brake kit online and they said to specify abs or not. you reckon its just worth saying no abs, and giving the model/year of my vtr ???
11. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

    #11 24th February 2011, 19:32

    96.753% sure you wont have ABS, but you can check easily enough;
    
    ♦ ABS kicks in when you slam on.
    
    ♦ ABS warning light when you first switch your ignition on.
    
    ♦ 2 Brake lines from the master cylinder.
    
    ♦ ABS sensor rings on the end of the driveshafts
12. fuggzy Newbie Joined: Feb 2011 Gloucestershire Posts: 22 98 citroen saxo vtr, silver. with optional dents !

    #12 24th February 2011, 19:44

    ok so how will i know what calipers/brake pads i should specify then??
    these are the ones ive been looking at getting, opinions??
    
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-VTR-VTS-D...ht_1113wt_1322
13. lyndon Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Bristol / Wakefield Posts: 2656 Ph2 172, MK1 VTR

    #13 24th February 2011, 19:47

    Those ^^ are correct, same as my '98 VTR
14. user_19702 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS

    #14 24th February 2011, 23:07

    My ABS doesnt kick in when i slam on in the dry...and isent the best in the wet...only in the ice where it makes shit worse lol...tbh i dont like it :/...ha...point less comment i know...but what the hell
15. benwh555 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Stoke-on-Trent Posts: 2137 Saxo VTS black 2003

    #15 24th February 2011, 23:25

    Weather or not it has abs will have nothing to do with the pad used. Both VTR and VTS use the same caliper, and therefore use the same pads. ABS was an optional extra on VTR's
16. user_19702 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2007 Kendal, Cumbria Posts: 2728 White mk1 VTS

    #16 24th February 2011, 23:37

    The ABS runs in the Hubs....not the calipers
    
    ABS hubs:
    
    Note the cog like ring on the inside of the hub, thats where the sensor runs along
    
    http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/m/mvuv...fvCw7Q/140.jpg
    
    
    Non ABS models do not have cog ring
17. fuggzy Newbie Joined: Feb 2011 Gloucestershire Posts: 22 98 citroen saxo vtr, silver. with optional dents !

    #17 25th February 2011, 10:43

    thanks everyone, my brakes will be winging their way to me very soon !!! hopefully my girlfriend will stop crapping her self when things stop in front of us lol