calling all wizards of spray...

1. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #1 1st November 2009, 13:40

   ok refurbing my alloys. sprayed inside of alloys yesturday and one coat of primer on face side.
   now the middle of the wheels are fine good coverage, however the rim and outside edge(which are seen) seem to spray over but then disperse like theres wax on them. i;'ve cleaned sanded them re primered only for same to happen. now i sanded, meth'd and sprayed same happened. now wonder wheeled and sprayed same happened.
   i'm in a cold garage could the cold be anything to do with this? pretty sure its not the filler as i used the filler in the middle parts as well and thats covered fine. really running out of options and primer.
   anyone shed some light on situation.
2. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #2 1st November 2009, 13:44

   Same thing happened on my old wheels.
   
   There is some sort of oil on them so you will need to de-grease them.
3. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #3 1st November 2009, 13:48

   really. i thought meths and all the other stuff i wacked on them would shift it.
4. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #4 1st November 2009, 13:53

   Well in the end de-greasing them only worked on some areas and had to sand down to bare metal on of other places where the paint was still reacting.
5. Marcus000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Burnley Posts: 596 VTR with teh sexy rims!

   #5 1st November 2009, 13:59

   If you've got any lighter fluid to hand, give them a rub over with that, it's a really good de-greasing agent.
6. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #6 1st November 2009, 14:00

   There is silicone on there
   when spraying with a gun you can get drops to go in paint when you mix it up.
   Cleanimg back to bare metal will work
7. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #7 1st November 2009, 14:17

   halfords sell a surface cleaner in aerosol form that removes all silicone and grease etc, its awesome and like £5
8. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #8 1st November 2009, 14:40

   i'm back to bear metal on the rims already as the original paint was pretty pap. gonna try that light fluid see if that works. cos i used heavy de greaser and still re acted. starting to wish i hadn;t started this now
9. saxovtsmad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 stoke on trent Posts: 8875 now own a possi blue mk2 vts mk1 went to heaven

   #9 1st November 2009, 14:46

   i used baby wipes to clean mine after i had rubbed them down
10. Eldridge Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Aberystwyth Posts: 618 mk1 vanitien red flatarch!

    #10 1st November 2009, 14:57

    if all else fails try paint stripper then wash it off and dry! works well! so long as you get it all off afterward
11. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #11 1st November 2009, 15:06

    lighter fluid didn't work. baby wipes are next up
12. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #12 1st November 2009, 15:13

    baby wipes didn;t work either
13. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #13 1st November 2009, 15:13

    degreaser etc etc is not like the product i told you about, it has to be something that contains no silicone else your wasting your time
14. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #14 1st November 2009, 15:18

    
    
    
    
    thats what its doing
15. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #15 1st November 2009, 15:20

    yes and thats because the surface still is contaminated mate. 90% of a paintjob is preperation
16. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #16 1st November 2009, 15:22

    http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...Id_165594#dtab
    
    is this the stuff?
17. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #17 1st November 2009, 15:30

    yes mate thats the stuff you need, ive had issues like your having before and that stuff stopped it 100%
    
    James
18. user_30728 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 st.austell Posts: 2549 106 quiksilver

    #18 1st November 2009, 16:25

    marcusd listen to J222JRA he IS the wizard of spray !
19. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #19 2nd November 2009, 16:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy There is silicone on there when spraying with a gun you can get drops to go in paint when you mix it up. Cleanimg back to bare metal will work

    
    well the surface cleaner stuff did bugger all, but the above worked a treat, taken a hell of a long time to do but worked. so hopefully nearly ready for final colour soon.
20. scot-ish Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 just aroon the corner Posts: 1509 Audi S5, Corsa, Defender 90 CSW

    #20 2nd November 2009, 16:25

    let all learn, dont jizz on yer wheels, causes all sorts of problems
21. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #21 2nd November 2009, 16:39

    and dam this jizz has been a pain to shift!!!!!