what kind of power gains would i get?

1. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #1 2nd November 2009, 16:28

   got a mk2 vtr but its th mk1 vtr engine, its got a 4-2-1 stainless steel manifold,pipercross induction kit janspeed exhuast with a decat in it.
   anybody have a rough idea how much of a gain ive got? cheers.
2. Alexvtrmk1 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Newcastle Posts: 609 Saxo Mk1 VTr Blue

   #2 2nd November 2009, 17:18

   about 0-6bhp
3. Alexvtrmk1 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Newcastle Posts: 609 Saxo Mk1 VTr Blue

   #3 2nd November 2009, 17:20

   you'v got your breathing mods so cam it next
4. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #4 2nd November 2009, 17:22

   What Pipercross? Open or enclosed?
   
   Anywhere upto around 10bhp is achievable from breathing modifications
5. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #5 2nd November 2009, 18:06

   open so its more than likely losing power goin to get something enclosed then a cam
6. scot-ish Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 just aroon the corner Posts: 1509 Audi S5, Corsa, Defender 90 CSW

   #6 2nd November 2009, 18:18

   open isnt good, get an enclosed, and a cold air feed to it, reduce the heat soak.
   
   by the time youve bought a cam mate, you could have thrown a vts in there lol
7. user_37187 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2009 Stranraer Posts: 3437 bodied VTR

   #7 2nd November 2009, 18:23

   dont give me ideas:L
8. scot-ish Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 just aroon the corner Posts: 1509 Audi S5, Corsa, Defender 90 CSW

   #8 2nd November 2009, 18:24

   theres plenty of people who would help you mate, its an easy conversion, i know haha
   
   timmy got the TB'd engine in the xsi yet??
9. saxvtr03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Kent Posts: 179 Citroen Saxo VTR 03 reg Fiat Punto SX S reg (for

   #9 2nd November 2009, 21:35

   thats probly running at like 95bhp if your lucky, old vtrs are slugs tho, i raced 1 earlier on a strip road near cnaterbury and i was gone!!
10. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #10 2nd November 2009, 21:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxvtr03 thats probly running at like 95bhp if your lucky, old vtrs are slugs tho, i raced 1 earlier on a strip road near cnaterbury and i was gone!!

    VTRs dont have that much difference, the 8bhp isnt really that noticable tbh
11. saxvtr03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Kent Posts: 179 Citroen Saxo VTR 03 reg Fiat Punto SX S reg (for

    #11 2nd November 2009, 21:44

    its not mega amounts bt i confortably pulled away from the mk1..
12. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #12 2nd November 2009, 21:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxvtr03 its not mega amounts bt i confortably pulled away from the mk1..

    After how long did you pull away?
    
    And things like the driver, how well its been maintained, driver weight, stuff in the car weight. Most cars lose a few BHP over time aswell. There really is nothing in it, suppose it helped a bit and you where probably the better driver
13. saxvtr03 Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2009 Kent Posts: 179 Citroen Saxo VTR 03 reg Fiat Punto SX S reg (for

    #13 5th November 2009, 11:59

    well it was afta turning of a roundabout, he gunned it away then i gunned it and by the time 3rd gear kiked in i was cruising past him lol
14. quickkwak07 Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2008 norwich Posts: 317 1999 vtr

    #14 5th November 2009, 21:28

    my 99 vtr with a viper,decat(but on the day was blowing like fuck) on a team dynamics rr made 96bhp so with a 4-2-1 mani got to be over 100bhp
15. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #15 5th November 2009, 21:35

    Believe me the 90 and 98bhp models there is a fairly noticeable difference all round, mind you my last 98bhp saxo was stripped.
16. roosie L-plater Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 37

    #16 12th November 2009, 20:20

    i keep reading posts on various topics about power gains and people are stating 8bhp etc etc.
    I run in the stock hatch championship with a Saxo VTR with about 35 other VTRs were all get about 120-130 bhp on our stock engine and we still have to use standard induction filters and inlets.
    my car is 127bhp and been checked on 3 rolling roads about and been the same give or take 2bhp
    
    best engine combination is
    
    Mk1 head on mk2 bottom end as it highers compression running a pugsport system on standard exhaust manifold and MBE ecu! thats all
    
    you will find 50% of the championship run the same spec and get the same power.