problems getting power down, help.

3rd November 2009, 19:30

i am struggling to get the power down, i keep getting wheel spin right upto third gear especially when its wet.

i have decent tyres on (pirelis on front) but im still having any joy or getting any grip.

does anyone have any other ideas what i could do to improve this?

thanks

3rd November 2009, 19:31

control the throttle rather than flooring it

3rd November 2009, 19:36

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Originally Posted by VTR_Craig

control the throttle rather than flooring it

that is controlling it, 396nm of torque at 1.3 bar. its abit tricky especially in the wet.

any ideas anyone?

3rd November 2009, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by gouldy87

i am struggling to get the power down, i keep getting wheel spin right upto third gear especially when its wet.

i have decent tyres on (pirelis on front) but im still having any joy or getting any grip.

does anyone have any other ideas what i could do to improve this?

thanks

its a pedal, not an on/ off switch.
either that or your tyres are complete pisch, im sure pirelli make sucky tyres too.

3rd November 2009, 19:41

Whats your car?

3rd November 2009, 19:41

press the pedal on the right a bit less

3rd November 2009, 19:42

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Originally Posted by johnnyg_vts

its a pedal, not an on/ off switch.
either that or your tyres are complete pisch, im sure pirelli make sucky tyres too.

as mentioned above, that is driving it steady. it goes nuts at 1500 rpm. even when steady driving in the wet and its very irratating tbh

constructive comments only please

3rd November 2009, 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by gouldy87

that is controlling it, 396nm of torque at 1.3 bar. its abit tricky especially in the wet.

any ideas anyone?

lol!! do you struggle to get good grip in the dry to?? im not really supprised!? i bet its bonkers?

3rd November 2009, 19:44

Boost controller? Longer ratio gearbox? LSD?

3rd November 2009, 19:44

what car is it?
thats a good start...

3rd November 2009, 19:45

a saxo!? vts turbo!?

3rd November 2009, 19:46

I bet its jap and fwd

3rd November 2009, 19:46

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Originally Posted by DusheR

Boost controller? Longer ratio gearbox? LSD?

its a 6 speed long ratio box, i cant see an lsd stopping both the front wheels spinning tbh but i could be wrong.

would a boost controller limit the boost in lower gears possibly?

3rd November 2009, 19:47

whats the car?

3rd November 2009, 19:47

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Originally Posted by DusheR

I bet its jap and fwd

FWD yes, jap crap no im afraid

would better tyres be a start?

3rd November 2009, 19:49

Of course, but the roads are going to be greasy for 90% of the time now. Untill we get our shitty excuse for a summer back

3rd November 2009, 19:50

lsd wont stop both wheels spinning, only transfers power to the wheel that isnt spinning and if they are both spinning then er...
boost controller would def help.
is it a devils fuel car?

3rd November 2009, 19:50

r888 or yoko equivalent, some road legal semi slicks would be good (in the dry).

3rd November 2009, 19:52

I wouldnt have semi slicks on in winter

3rd November 2009, 19:54

Vag?? mate had the same problem in his proton cross evo, just slippy greasy roads crossed with boost dont realy work lol buy a cheap car and run that over winter

3rd November 2009, 19:55

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Originally Posted by DusheR

I wouldnt have semi slicks on in winter

youre not the op but thanks.
diesel vag?
are we getting closer?

3rd November 2009, 19:55

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Originally Posted by DusheR

I wouldnt have semi slicks on in winter

what tyres would you recommend?

and if so do they make them in 225, 40 18s? (40 profile is a must due to space between the top of the tyre and the mount the bottom of the front spring sits on)

3rd November 2009, 19:59

is it spinning in the absolute bone dry?
or is it a bit greasy?
p.s.
www.camskill.co.uk

3rd November 2009, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by gouldy87

what tyres would you recommend?

and if so do they make them in 225, 40 18s? (40 profile is a must due to space between the top of the tyre and the mount the bottom of the front spring sits on)

genuinely, don't floor it, a mclaren f1 is manageable in the wet if you tickle the accelerator.

What condition are your tyres in? they could be Pirelli P Zero's but if they're got 2mm of tread left they're going to be crap in the wet innit. Get Michelin Pilots.

3rd November 2009, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg_vts

is it spinning in the absolute bone dry?
or is it a bit greasy?
p.s.
www.camskill.co.uk

abit and yes, def when its greasy.

thank you for the link.

although i can get massively discounted tyres from a frinds buisness (lk performance)

i would like to know which ones would be best, cheers

3rd November 2009, 20:06

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Originally Posted by adsayer

genuinely, don't floor it, a mclaren f1 is manageable in the wet if you tickle the accelerator.

What condition are your tyres in? they could be Pirelli P Zero's but if they're got 2mm of tread left they're going to be crap in the wet innit. Get Michelin Pilots.

3-4 mm of tread left, is it time for a change?

3rd November 2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by gouldy87

3-4 mm of tread left, is it time for a change?

yes, its going to make a difference, especially with the power quoted.
is your car gash, thats why its a secret?

3rd November 2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by gouldy87

3-4 mm of tread left, is it time for a change?

I change mine at around 3 mm, especially what with the worst of the weather for the year fast approaching man. It's the laws of physics at the end of the day, there's is only so much adhesion you're going to get on a greasy road regardless of whether you have a a 8 litre Veyron on P Zero's or a 1.0 saxo on Ninjibongo's... the best tyres available are not going to get you to get the power down significantly better when it's the road that's the problem man.

3rd November 2009, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer

I change mine at around 3 mm, especially what with the worst of the weather for the year fast approaching man. It's the laws of physics at the end of the day, there's is only so much adhesion you're going to get on a greasy road regardless of whether you have a a 8 litre Veyron on P Zero's or a 1.0 saxo on Ninjibongo's... the best tyres available are not going to get you to get the power down significantly better when it's the road that's the problem man.

oh dear, erm any ideas at all what i could to improve the grip other than tyres?

thanks

3rd November 2009, 20:15

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Originally Posted by gouldy87

oh dear, erm any ideas at all what i could to improve the grip other than tyres?

thanks

apart from maybe sandpapering the surface to rough them up a bit before racing someone I doubt there is much you can do man - that's what I'm saying, there isn't much you can do - it's more the road rather than the car.

maybe increase weight on the front if it's FWD and/or decrease weight on the rear.

if you're flooring it at 20mph in 2nd, try using 3rd at 20mph and flooring it.

3rd November 2009, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by adsayer

apart from maybe sandpapering the surface to rough them up a bit before racing someone I doubt there is much you can do man - that's what I'm saying, there isn't much you can do - it's more the road rather than the car.

maybe increase weight on the front if it's FWD and/or decrease weight on the rear.

if you're flooring it at 20mph in 2nd, try using 3rd at 20mph and flooring it.

i dont really do racing tbh, its my daily. 3rd at 20 is fine but thats just below when it hits boost and spins off again.

thanks for your help

3rd November 2009, 20:22

is the wheel alinement (sp) correct, mine is way out so can spin in 5th if its wet.

tire preshure also plays a big part in traction, under and over inflated.

3rd November 2009, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by gouldy87

i dont really do racing tbh, its my daily. 3rd at 20 is fine but thats just below when it hits boost and spins off again.

thanks for your help

it's cool... I just think we're going to go round in circles again but I'll say it anyway... can you just lot pull off the accelerator a touch when the turbo kicks in?

3rd November 2009, 20:26

hang on... this is just an asw thread isn't it?

fucks sake.

3rd November 2009, 20:42

dunno but my post count is flying high.
anyone for a high 5?

4th November 2009, 09:23

high 5!!!! ... still wanna know what car..... must be a shed

4th November 2009, 11:08

do a conversion to 4wd rwd

4th November 2009, 11:24

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Originally Posted by adsayer

hang on... this is just an asw thread isn't it?

fucks sake.

no its not an asw thread.

im thinking of replacing the front tyres with some toyos that should help the situation i think

4th November 2009, 11:30

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Originally Posted by smokey247

high 5!!!! ... still wanna know what car..... must be a shed

lolllz

4th November 2009, 16:51

what suspension and engine mounts you got?

Mine spins alot more easily with standard mounts and suspension back on after getting rid of my bilsteins

Get an ATB

4th November 2009, 16:55

2 way diff sticky tyres and lighten your foot a wee bit and away you go

5th November 2009, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

what suspension and engine mounts you got?

Mine spins alot more easily with standard mounts and suspension back on after getting rid of my bilsteins

Get an ATB

standard mounts, 35mm springs on standard dampers but im hoping to get some uprated ones at the end of this month.

a diff is out of my price range at the min but thank you for you input

5th November 2009, 18:31

What car is it?

5th November 2009, 18:44

3 pages and still havnt found out what type of car it is.

5th November 2009, 18:52

a 1.1i saxo with an e-bay electric supercharger. lol

6th November 2009, 18:12

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Originally Posted by Lew_C

a 1.1i saxo with an e-bay electric supercharger. lol

lolzzz!

7th November 2009, 00:12

Get some rubber which is decent in the wet, i.e Michelin Pilots, Eagle F1s.