what do you thinks faster?

1. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

   #1 26th November 2009, 22:43

   what do you think would win a race out of a 97 vts with s/steel exhaust, 4-1 manifold, induction kit, chipped by superchips, mapped, short shift, uprated pistons or a standard civic 1.6 vti coupe on a 96 plate which is standard apart from big noisy back box and induction?
2. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

   #2 26th November 2009, 22:45

   post man pat
3. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #3 26th November 2009, 22:45

   lol...
4. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #4 26th November 2009, 22:45

   well obv the vts
5. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

   #5 26th November 2009, 22:47

   more than likely the civic.
   
   what are uprated pistons doing lol ?
6. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

   #6 26th November 2009, 22:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by andymiller_VTR more than likely the civic. what are uprated pistons doing lol ?

   they were in there when i bought it the bloke siad he was getting it prepd for turbo
7. KeithLemon L-plater Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 66

   #7 26th November 2009, 22:55

   whats the 0-60 on them both?
   
   iirc they are incredibly close, well thats for the hatch back, dare say coupe weighs more than hatch back
8. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

   #8 26th November 2009, 22:56

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by KeithLemon whats the 0-60 on them both? iirc they are incredibly close, well thats for the hatch back, dare say coupe weighs more than hatch back

   the civs meant to be 0.7secs quicker to 60 but its heavier bigger and not as modded
9. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #9 26th November 2009, 22:58

   why people asking for standard 0-60 times the vts obv isnt standard and its had a lot of work and money spent on it plus its lighter
10. Junction27 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Posts: 101

    #10 26th November 2009, 22:59

    think the civics 157 bhp, when new. Would be close, take your backseats out etc and you should be faster aslong as you can drive normally.
11. KeithLemon L-plater Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 66

    #11 26th November 2009, 22:59

    it has breathing mods good for what 5bhp?
12. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #12 26th November 2009, 23:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by admad they were in there when i bought it the bloke siad he was getting it prepd for turbo

    they will be lower compression then and ruining any power on an n/a setup
    
    so youll loose tbh
13. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #13 26th November 2009, 23:02

    who cares ??
    
    saxo will be more fun on a track
14. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

    #14 26th November 2009, 23:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Junction27 think the civics 157 bhp, when new. Would be close, take your backseats out etc and you should be faster aslong as you can drive normally.

    your post reminds me the vts has a boot full of stereo so got a bit of weight in the back but if anything i found it sticks to the road much better and dont feel so twitchy
15. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

    #15 26th November 2009, 23:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andymiller_VTR who cares ?? saxo will be more fun on a track

    me thats why i asked my mate owns the civ im in the vts but the fanny says ill whoop you but wont race me i think the vts is quicker but i reckon it would be close
16. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #16 26th November 2009, 23:13

    street racing is soooo cool.......
17. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #17 26th November 2009, 23:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by admad me thats why i asked my mate owns the civ im in the vts but the fanny says ill whoop you but wont race me i think the vts is quicker but i reckon it would be close

    go to a drag stip and find out then ?
    
    i could say that the vts is faster easily. But it means nothing unless you try it......
18. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

    #18 26th November 2009, 23:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andymiller_VTR go to a drag stip and find out then ? i could say that the vts is faster easily. But it means nothing unless you try it......

    i want to but my mate dont wanna "thrash" his car lol wanna go do that run what you brung will have to just say im faster until you prove it and race me
19. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

    #19 26th November 2009, 23:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 street racing is soooo cool.......

    great way to kill some one or lose your licence too
20. ATFoxy106 L-plater Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 96

    #20 27th November 2009, 00:49

    Vtech is SLOWWWW, you will have gone before his VTECH kicks in np, also
    
    Street racing threads are gay, if you think your a fast driver and want to race people Go and get involved in motorsport, www.gomotorsport.co.uk
21. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #21 27th November 2009, 02:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB they will be lower compression then and ruining any power on an n/a setup so youll loose tbh

    has everyone just ignored alex's post? case/thread closed imo
    
    like he said if it was being turbo prepped it would be running low comp pistons, and maybe even a thicker head gasket/decomp plate
    vts would = turd
22. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #22 27th November 2009, 14:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ATFoxy106 Vtech is SLOWWWW, you will have gone before his VTECH kicks in np, also Street racing threads are gay, if you think your a fast driver and want to race people Go and get involved in motorsport, www.gomotorsport.co.uk

    
23. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #23 27th November 2009, 14:40

    The VTS
    
    But "chipped" and "mapped" why write both?
    
    And why Pistons please
24. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #24 27th November 2009, 15:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 The VTS But "chipped" and "mapped" why write both? And why Pistons please

    Clearly wont have these 'mods' lol. Just the guy selling it blagging a bit extra onto the price.
    
    and they clearly aren't the best mods. Low comp pistons with no turbo.. yeah i see logic in that! 'Superchipped'? so basically just overfueling
    
    Civic will be standard, therefore set-up perfect = winnar
25. 200sxmadz Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 hull Posts: 352 saxo vtr/s

    #25 27th November 2009, 16:42

    ide say the civic
26. admad Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Peterborough Posts: 807 MR2 Turbo, impreza sti

    #26 27th November 2009, 17:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 The VTS But "chipped" and "mapped" why write both? And why Pistons please

    not mods i done i did exhaust mani and induction kit i write both because thats what its got
27. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #27 27th November 2009, 17:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by admad not mods i done i did exhaust mani and induction kit i write both because thats what its got

    There both the same thing?
28. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #28 27th November 2009, 17:10

    as per several posts youve ignored
    
    your car will be running fuck all power
    the compression will be too low and the fueling all over the place
    
    tbh i think youve been mugged over as if someone was prepping for a turbo they would do a lot more than just pistons and a chip would be suprised if it had them in it tbh
29. planetrover Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2009 leicester Posts: 390 saxo furio vtr lookalike

    #29 27th November 2009, 17:10

    civic would win im afraid even if its standard the b16 engine is so much better than the citroen equiv
30. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #30 27th November 2009, 17:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 The VTS But "chipped" and "mapped" why write both? And why Pistons please

    You can change the eproms "the chip" and then you alter the "map" on that "chip".
    
    Some places cant map the standard ECU live hence "chipping" the ecu.
    
    So no they are not the same thing like you said above
    
31. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #31 27th November 2009, 17:19

    All jokes a side about the mods, a healthy vts with decent breathing mods will be quicker than a stock vti
32. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #32 27th November 2009, 17:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimbo06 All jokes a side about the mods, a healthy vts with decent breathing mods will be quicker than a stock vti

    i agree.
33. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #33 27th November 2009, 18:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS You can change the eproms "the chip" and then you alter the "map" on that "chip". Some places cant map the standard ECU live hence "chipping" the ecu. So no they are not the same thing like you said above

    I know, i just didnt think he meant that tbh
34. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #34 27th November 2009, 18:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom has everyone just ignored alex's post? case/thread closed imo like he said if it was being turbo prepped it would be running low comp pistons, and maybe even a thicker head gasket/decomp plate vts would = turd

    noticed this and wondered why no one had commented yet lmao, also, not to say the poster doesnt own but all the cars some ppl have in there profiles and then just a pic of the sax, how many ppl lie about the cars they own, pitiful
35. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #35 27th November 2009, 18:50

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