106 vs saxo

1. Mint-VTR Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus

   #1 2nd December 2009, 23:00

   sorry if itts been put up before, but i searched!
   just wondering the differences and the equivilents are for 106s and saxos!
   vtr, quicksilver, xsi, furio etc...
   
   engines and bhp?
2. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #2 2nd December 2009, 23:01

   vts and gti, same engine.
   vtr and rallye share the 1.6 8v but believe the rallye has slightly more power. theres also a 106 xsi but its not kitted.
   furio/westcoast and quiksilver.
3. user_26373 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Lancaster Posts: 1532 JP4 AX

   #3 2nd December 2009, 23:03

   Mother fucking parkerssss brav
   
   http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...aspx?model=127
   
   http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...aspx?model=656
4. Mint-VTR Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus

   #4 2nd December 2009, 23:05

   right so the rallye has more power just from differences in inlet manifolds?
   and alse i heard theres a 1.4 8v lump with 98bhp? true?
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 2nd December 2009, 23:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mint-VTR right so the rallye has more power just from differences in inlet manifolds? and alse i heard theres a 1.4 8v lump with 98bhp? true?

   No the 1.4 8v engine has 75bhp
   
   And yes the inlet manifold and TB are bigger, allowing more air to be mixed with more petrol, bigger bang, more power
   
   You can fit a S1 Rallye inlet on a Mk1 Saxo VTR for a nice gain
6. Mint-VTR Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus

   #6 2nd December 2009, 23:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr No the 1.4 8v engine has 75bhp And yes the inlet manifold and TB are bigger, allowing more air to be mixed with more petrol, bigger bang, more power You can fit a S1 Rallye inlet on a Mk1 Saxo VTR for a nice gain

   yeah heard about that mod, but heard its alot of hassle and runs lumpy pre remap!
   
   it said 1.4 XSi has 98? what engine is this? 8v?
7. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #7 2nd December 2009, 23:10

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mint-VTR yeah heard about that mod, but heard its alot of hassle and runs lumpy pre remap! it said 1.4 XSi has 98? what engine is this? 8v?

   And yes they do run lumpy before remap, but when coupled with cams and other things and a remap it is worth it
   
   And the XSI will be a Peugeot not Citroen, is it the Quicksilver?
8. Mint-VTR Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Sawbridgeworth Posts: 1883 Black VTR, Clio 172. Gaz Coilovers, Stealth Exhaus

   #8 2nd December 2009, 23:14

   yeah but all the other lumps are the same, just wondering wjhat the 1.4 90bhp looks like!
9. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #9 2nd December 2009, 23:29

   I'm not all that clued up on the peugeots, but i was sure they used the same 1.4 as the saxo, which would mean its 75bhp
10. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

    #10 2nd December 2009, 23:35

    http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...spx?deriv=5480
    
    1.4 XSI 100hp according to Parkers.
11. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #11 2nd December 2009, 23:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/specs/...spx?deriv=5480 1.4 XSI 100hp according to Parkers.

    I never knew that
12. Tommo87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 2565

    #12 2nd December 2009, 23:50

    Also what power was the S1 Rallye? I believe it's pretty good for a 1.3.
13. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

    #13 2nd December 2009, 23:51

    Just search it in Parkers mate, it'll tell you loads of info about it.
14. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #14 3rd December 2009, 01:45

    The 98BHP XSi is a rare care, its basically the 1.4 XS (75BHP) engine but de-restricted as its only availble pre-cat years, ie J-reg.
    
    The S1 Rallye is 100ish BHP also.
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 3rd December 2009, 02:21

    if you go on stealth106's thread hes got a xsi 1.4 but hes put a vts/gti engine in it but u can see what one looks like
    basically
    vts=gti-120bhp
    vtr=xs mk2, xsi mk1, rallye 1.3 mk1, rallye 1.6 mk2-90/98bhp
    furio mk2/westcoast mk1= xs mk1 75bhp
    then theres the lesser models but theres hundreds of flaming 106 models
    
    edit: whoooooo just realised this is my 1000th post!
16. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

    #16 3rd December 2009, 09:35

    Furio/Westcoast is similair to a Quiksilver and they're all 75Bhp. They both share the same body kit as the VTR/VTS and GTi respectively.
    
    1.3 Rallye has 100Bhp and the engine is found only in the 106 Rallye (TU2). It has it's own colour coded body kit that is unique to that model.
    
    1.4 XSi is quoted as 100Bhp pre-cat and 95Bhp with a cat. Has a black textured trim kit that is used only on the 1.4 and 1.6 XSi models.
    
    1.6 Rallye has 103Bhp. I believe it uses the VTR bottom end and inlet with a Rallye cam and head. Looks very similair to a GTi but with white steels and foglight blanks. Also the spoiler is optional.
    
    1.6 XSi is quoted as 105Bhp and is essentialy the same as the 1.6 Rallye engine but with different emmissions restricitions so hence the small power increase.
    
    MK1 VTR has 90Bhp and MK2 has 98Bhp. Same kit as the VTS but with 14" alloys.
    
    MK1 and MK2 VTS and the GTi all have 120Bhp. Apart from the way they look there is very little difference mechanicaly between the two.
    
    Quite a complex range of cars tbh! Hope that helps.
17. user_7096 Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Market Bosworth Posts: 2482 106 XSi 1360cc

    #17 3rd December 2009, 15:22

    if you want to look at an XSi with the original engine in see my thread on the link below
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=212088