vtr as fast as possible

20th February 2006, 18:28

hi all
am wantin to get ma vtr performance up and av been thinking of some mods for. its all ready got a powerflow system and a bmc induction kit. av been thinking about a power boost valve, manifold, camshaft, chip and remap.
am wanting to do it as cheap as possible but still have qulity. av been told fae ma dad that there is people on his scooby forum that have manifolds with fiberglass wrapped wround it to give it performance(i could be wrong saying this). any advice and sugestions would be much apreciated cos am not a mechanic and a just know what av been told what a know from who a got ma car from
thanks

20th February 2006, 18:55

please type in full english fella makes it hard to read like that for us and the foreign troops

The fibreglass wrap your talking about is known as head wrap. What this does is keeps the heat in the exhaust gases and this keeps their flow rate high i.e. getting the gases out as quick as possible. THis also helps lower under bonnet temperatures.

By your heading your looking for fast as possible and for that your really looking at super/turbo charging. Going down the cam and remap route would see you at around 120/125ish (at fly going by previous people doing the same) after that for more power on that route your looking at wild cam and throttle bodies and expense soon mounts up again

20th February 2006, 18:59

by doing what am talking about will it improve my acceleration

20th February 2006, 19:00

It will indeed

vts gearbox or 1.1 gearbox would improve that further

20th February 2006, 19:33

ma gear box is gubbed a think cos at the 1/4 mile yesterday when a get to high revs in 1st then go to change its takes some force to get it into 2nd and a was missin the gear givin me crap times

20th February 2006, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

am wantin to get ma vtr performance up

I am in the same boat mate. Want to do up my VTR but I don't want to spend £2000 on it to make it as fast a VTS.
So I have decided to buy a VTS when I turn 19.

20th February 2006, 20:40

am unfortunatly not on that boat am only 17 and struglin to aford ma vtr insurance the now but if it means spending that to get it to keep up/beat a vts am game cos a was on the 1/4 mile at crail yesterday and a could beat other vtrs hands down even when ma start was crap but two vts's had well better times so a never even chanced them. so to see their faces when a vtr is along side it is priceless

20th February 2006, 20:43

if you can hardly afford the insurance just now then you have no chance when you start to modify the engine

Strip the fuck out of it

20th February 2006, 20:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

Strip the fuck out of it

Yes. 50kg apparently equals out to 10bhp.
Which is not bad at all.
Power to Weight.
You can't beat physics!!!!!!!

20th February 2006, 20:51

Stick a 16 valve lump in there.

20th February 2006, 21:05

but ma insurance is void the now any way am 3rd party and they think ma car is standard so what they dont know dont hurt them
but ive been led to belive striping the car is expensive and hard also am not that handy on cars ma self so what kind of price is it to start stripin it

20th February 2006, 21:16

its all bolts and screws for stripping easy enough mate

20th February 2006, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

but ma insurance is void the now any way am 3rd party and they think ma car is standard so what they dont know dont hurt them

20th February 2006, 21:27

will there be a lot more noise from stripin it and will it still look as good. ive got a sub, amp, 6x9s and stealth parcel shelf what do i do with my sounds.

20th February 2006, 21:35

So your driving around with no insurance? Hmmm

20th February 2006, 21:39

this boys a genious

20th February 2006, 21:42

y bother driving round with tax or even a licence

20th February 2006, 21:50

HEY MATE MY MANIFOLD IS HEATWRAPPED AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PIC BUT IM GONNA BUY AN 03 VTS AT THE END OF THIS YEAR SO I CNT B ARSED TO GET ANY MORE ENGINE MODS.

20th February 2006, 21:52

av got insurance ajust wont get anything paid out towards ma car and the car has full tax and mot and av also got a full uk pass plus license
any way am askin advice on ma car no ma insurance but if you know any body that will give me cheep insurance am open to sugestions

20th February 2006, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

av got insurance ajust wont get anything paid out towards ma car and the car has full tax and mot and av also got a full uk pass plus license
any way am askin advice on ma car no ma insurance but if you know any body that will give me cheep insurance am open to sugestions

personally i couldn't give a shit if you crashed you're car, in fact at least if you did there'd be one less twat on the road. what bothers me is if you hit someone else and your insurance company comes to pay out for the damage to the other car and finds your modifications- whoops no mods declared, we're paying out fuck all and you're left with a huge bill for the damaged/written off car and an IN10 on your licence. still think you're clever? As for insurance, you're 17 and driving a 1.6 'hot hatch' ffs, how much did you expect your insurance to be? you should look to sell the vtr and get a 1.4 furio or smaller and build up no claims until you're old enough and sensible enough to insure something bigger.

20th February 2006, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanvtr81

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

av got insurance ajust wont get anything paid out towards ma car and the car has full tax and mot and av also got a full uk pass plus license
any way am askin advice on ma car no ma insurance but if you know any body that will give me cheep insurance am open to sugestions

personally i couldn't give a shit if you crashed you're car, in fact at least if you did there'd be one less twat on the road. what bothers me is if you hit someone else and your insurance company comes to pay out for the damage to the other car and finds your modifications- whoops no mods declared, we're paying out fuck all and you're left with a huge bill for the damaged/written off car and an IN10 on your licence. still think you're clever? As for insurance, you're 17 and driving a 1.6 'hot hatch' ffs, how much did you expect your insurance to be? you should look to sell the vtr and get a 1.4 furio or smaller and build up no claims until you're old enough and sensible enough to insure something bigger.

well said mate

20th February 2006, 23:35

Quote:

personally i couldn't give a shit if you crashed you're car, in fact at least if you did there'd be one less twat on the road. what bothers me is if you hit someone else and your insurance company comes to pay out for the damage to the other car and finds your modifications- whoops no mods declared, we're paying out fuck all and you're left with a huge bill for the damaged/written off car and an IN10 on your licence. still think you're clever? As for insurance, you're 17 and driving a 1.6 'hot hatch' ffs, how much did you expect your insurance to be? you should look to sell the vtr and get a 1.4 furio or smaller and build up no claims until you're old enough and sensible enough to insure something bigger.

Here Here!

Exactly the same as what im doing.. But end of this year i think im gonna sell the Furio and get the C2 VTS as it's cheaper again on the insurance than the Saxo VTS.

21st February 2006, 00:21

how much is your insurance btw??

21st February 2006, 21:35

a realy couldny give a flying fuck cos a get a loan in two months and pay the whole car off then declair the mods to the insurer which will be ma system wheels and induction kit bumpin ma insurance up by £400 to a toatal £1900 then am fully legit smart arse's

21st February 2006, 21:54

insurance on third party only pay out to the victim bawbag

21st February 2006, 22:03

I think what he's saying mate, is that you technically don't have insurance as you haven't told them about your mods. So if you DO crash then the insurance company wont pay out for yourself or the person you crashed into ( i think). So what you just said then was a load of BS...

21st February 2006, 22:05

Yes insurance would be void, but lads, stop having a go at him and return to what he asked in the first place.
Were supposed to be nice on here...........

21st February 2006, 22:06

buger it am a bothered

21st February 2006, 22:11

will your insurance fuck pay out if you hit someone else ie a 3rd party. (hence the term '3rd party' insurance)

Your policy is void therefor null, so if driving without insurance doesn't bother you then you're a fucking moron.

21st February 2006, 22:22

am not driving with no insurance a got a certificate declairing ma car insured

21st February 2006, 22:44

jesus fuck are you really that stupid? No mods declared=insurance void=no insurance. If you're in an accident, the police will check if your documents match the car, as will any asessor sent out by the insurance company. Yours obviously wouldn't. At best you'd get an IN10 and points plus ban, at worse any 3rd party involved could and probably would sue you (and quite right too) and then you really would be buggered. So, pay an extra £150-£200 on your insurance, or face being sued for the cost of someone elses brand new car plus court costs? Not a difficult choice i would've thought.

21st February 2006, 23:35

well thats a chance me and many others take

22nd February 2006, 00:00

and what about the poor cunt you crash into? never mind i'm wasting my time here. like i've said already, at least if you did crash there would be one less braindead fuckwit on the road.

22nd February 2006, 04:49

hey melo everyone

get back to the topic a want to no what can be done to my vtr too

22nd February 2006, 05:00

i heard that neons can add 50bhp if wired up properly

22nd February 2006, 05:11

if you cant afford a couple of hundred quid on insuring a few engine mods then you simply cannot afford to make a vtr fast.

22nd February 2006, 05:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by patrick2403

i heard that neons can add 50bhp if wired up properly

ace! is that per neon? if so ive got a extra 150BHP!! wooo

22nd February 2006, 05:25

only if there in a chrome casing as this is extra light and aero dynamic, and when u spray the jets its like nos its makes ur car boost forward warp speed.

22nd February 2006, 14:11

as a said a bank loan is coming soon and also a pay rise so am wantin ideas so when the time comes a can just order every thing i need and get it done

22nd February 2006, 14:45

well your first step is to find out how much your insurance will be with the mods you have now, then see how much you have left of your dosh, then make an educated guess at what you want doing, get a few prices for the work, then ring insurance again, tell them what you are doing, see how much they say it will cost you then go from there, but do NOT do it and not get insured, how would you feel if you did all these mods and some insured drive came round and wrote your car off? hes not insured so you cant claim, your insurance wont pay out as your not driving the car you have insured, so your left with no car, a bank loan and no salvagable bits, think before you do something stupid (like you are now)

22nd February 2006, 15:52

i aint declared none of my mods on my insurance and have crashed and didnt have any bother whatsoever and im 18 on my moms and they didnt even question it

22nd February 2006, 21:04

exactly what hapened to ma pal in the same situation
insurers dont question 3rd party

22nd February 2006, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

exactly what hapened to ma pal in the same situation
insurers dont question 3rd party

Not true at all! I can understand why seans getting so stressed here.
Say you're driving to or from a show and your concentration goes for a second and you plow into the back of someone driving a VTS turbo/super(something which has had a A LOT of money put into it) and your insurance company wont pay for it. Hows that worth the risk?! Can you afford to pay for the damages off your own back?
I very much doubt it. Think about what you're doing very carefully

22nd February 2006, 23:57

fuck peoples cars and costs, what happens if you hit a person or small child.

23rd February 2006, 00:28

tell you what, if your so confident your fine, give me your name, address and car reg, ill contact your insurance and the police and tell them im concerned your driving a car your not insured on and would like the to check it out, if your so sure they arnt bothered and wont do anything then you wont have a problem giving me these details, this isnt me being funny or arsey but I know your driving round illegally and uninsured, and you think you are fine, whats to lose? Ill quite happily post on here that I was wrong if you keep your licence etc after the check, I mean your so sure so whats the worst that can happen right?

you can pm me if you prefer, but if your not so confident stop posting crap about this and f off.

23rd February 2006, 00:31

hahahahahaha

23rd February 2006, 02:46

true down here in London, none of my friends tell their insurers about their mods, even when they have been in crashes insurers dont check mods.

when my mates insured their cars, they didnt even have a license, all insurers do is ask u, do u have a license? they jus say yes.

you'll be suprised wat people can get away, ive got friends on this very site who have been driving since they were 15 years old, and now theyre 24 still without even a provisional license and obviously no insurance.

It happens

23rd February 2006, 02:52

your mates are retarded obviously.

23rd February 2006, 03:43

the point is it is extremely unlikely to b found out, they dont check

23rd February 2006, 03:47

When i attend accidents, we have to do an accidnet report (even a little sketch on squared paper showing positions of important objects! lol!) this is not only for out records but insurance companies see them - and i ALWAYS make a note if the cars modified, and basic details of modifications.

Not trying to be an a*se to modified cars, i drive a modified car, but people who dont declare will get caught out, insurance void and starts a whole lot more of problems for you. not worth it - u might aswell not pay any insurance.

23rd February 2006, 03:51

but surely mods like an airfilter/backbox/alloys arent going to boost your insurance up that much are they?

might aswel tell them!

23rd February 2006, 04:11

I like Ratty's suggestion lets see the replys from our no insurance hero's

23rd February 2006, 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by huggy54

true down here in London, none of my friends tell their insurers about their mods, even when they have been in crashes insurers dont check mods.

when my mates insured their cars, they didnt even have a license, all insurers do is ask u, do u have a license? they jus say yes.

you'll be suprised wat people can get away, ive got friends on this very site who have been driving since they were 15 years old, and now theyre 24 still without even a provisional license and obviously no insurance.

It happens

doesnt make it big or clever tho!!! does it not piss you off that your probably paying way to much for your insurance because of these idiots?

23rd February 2006, 05:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

I like Ratty's suggestion lets see the replys from our no insurance hero's

I also like Rattys suggestion, although I very much doubt our "no insurance hero" as Scott so adiquitly puts it

will give many more responses on this topic

23rd February 2006, 05:33

quality idea Ratty, gotta say some one my mum knows who is now 40+ got caught abit ago, he never had a license but had been driving since he was 19. never took a test or anything, he told his family he did his test when he was abroad and he had just bought a fake license. in the end he got a £3k fine anda year ban but doesn't have to take a driving test

23rd February 2006, 14:24

a looked into insuring ma car fully comp and they asked if i had mods, i said none then asked what hapenns when i mod the car, i was told as long as its body mods(wheels, body kit etc) it would be replced with standard parts unless the mods are insured then asked about the same in third party he said to only mension any thing that changes the performance

23rd February 2006, 14:47

ok if your so sure then give me the details i asked for since your so sure, where as i know thats not the case.

23rd February 2006, 15:12

the police wudnt tell you anything theyd jus say thankyou and never ring you back as its agianst data protection trust me i work for a warrants company, its all goin a bit too far now what about all the people on here that are too low, too fast, no tax, MOT, shit tyres etc these all contribute too crashes too m8 if pple wanna take the risk then let em there aint much that u lot sayin stuff is gonna do 2 stop em and i dont really think an exhaust is gonna invalidate your insurance sum how or an induction kit?

23rd February 2006, 15:35

How can you possibly think that it wont invalidate your insurance??? You are MODIFIYING the car beyond what you have it insured as, you are no longer insuring the same car and the insurance company will NOT pay out if they find out and 99% send out an insurance assessor, its their job to make sure things are correct and find out if there is anyway they can get out of paying out.

Also the data protection comment, how on earth is that against the DPA? Reporting a crime to the police is a breach of DPA?

AS for letting other people take the risk (blood pressure rising) thats fine if they want to take the risk but do you not understand its not just them, if they hit someone else then that person is not covered because of your fraudulant insurance.

If someone crashes into me without insurance they can expect me firstly taking them to court and absolutely horsing them over in claims against them

23rd February 2006, 15:46

L1UKEVTR I hope you havnt been there long then, also if you read what ive said im not asking the police to tell me anything (me requesting information from the police about an individual or anyone or a company etc would be against the data protection act unless I was asking about myself)

But its also the Data Protection Act to make sure details held against an individual are accurate and correct, which they are not in this case.

24th February 2006, 02:19

i love these threads.

keep the comments coming people.

24th February 2006, 04:24

well said mate

i agree with you 100% on that one

24th February 2006, 07:15

Well as I said before in London they dont really check for MODS on cars. I'm not saying its never happened but its never voided any of my mates insurance, the very few who have it.

I've noticed on this forum people are very by the books when it comes to cars.

Its real suprising were used seeing the exact opposite, no license, insurance. You can buy road-tax, with only a log book, no MOT, or insurance if you knowwho to go to, you can even buy a valid license from inside people working 4 the DVLA. Most of my mates got 'em like that.

24th February 2006, 08:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanvtr81

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

av got insurance ajust wont get anything paid out towards ma car and the car has full tax and mot and av also got a full uk pass plus license
any way am askin advice on ma car no ma insurance but if you know any body that will give me cheep insurance am open to sugestions

personally i couldn't give a shit if you crashed you're car, in fact at least if you did there'd be one less twat on the road. what bothers me is if you hit someone else and your insurance company comes to pay out for the damage to the other car and finds your modifications- whoops no mods declared, we're paying out fuck all and you're left with a huge bill for the damaged/written off car and an IN10 on your licence. still think you're clever? As for insurance, you're 17 and driving a 1.6 'hot hatch' ffs, how much did you expect your insurance to be? you should look to sell the vtr and get a 1.4 furio or smaller and build up no claims until you're old enough and sensible enough to insure something bigger.

why should you wait for something uve always wanted, no offence but im only 17 and i always wanted a vtr, all my mates saying no chance in hel blah blah blah, so i brought 1. i think insurence is a pisstake. but i pay it, just becuz there are sum dickheads at 17 dont mean we all are. and im sick of paying a higher premium cuz of dickheads the age of 17 to 80 pisses me righttt offf

24th February 2006, 14:43

somebody tell me then when i got a seven day and the police costable checked all my documents then went out to ma car and cecked the whole thing including in ma engine bay, ma tyres and under ma car(a dont know what for)just for a bust bulb. then he went over my documents again and filled in the rest of what he had to. now if he didnt see any thing wrong why didnt he pick up on what yous are sayin.

24th February 2006, 16:48

give me your details then, stop fannying around!

24th February 2006, 16:58

its pretty much just like having a 1.1 and doing mods so its like a 1.2...not exactly the same is it. you get charged more because its the extra 0.1 litre...doing mods to your 1.1 would cost proberly just as much to insure yourself on a 1.2. end of the day really...best you don't even both with the VTR...sell it, buy a 1.4 and do mods to that or just have the VTR and risk everything, which i see as stupid!

24th February 2006, 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

somebody tell me then when i got a seven day and the police costable checked all my documents then went out to ma car and cecked the whole thing including in ma engine bay, ma tyres and under ma car(a dont know what for)just for a bust bulb. then he went over my documents again and filled in the rest of what he had to. now if he didnt see any thing wrong why didnt he pick up on what yous are sayin.

because alot of police officers are stupid,on producers i've had my car put down as a 106 quite a few times one copper even put it down as a furio after checking the whole car even then engine because he thought at my age i wouldnt be able to insure a vts had it put down as black aswell even at night you can tell the difference between posi blue and black so there you go mate just because they look doesnt mean they check it over 100%

so stop fucking around and give ratty your details if you think your fine if we get a few more twats like you off the road my insurance might drop below 400 quid at renwal time

24th February 2006, 17:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteVTR

if we get a few more twats like you off the road my insurance might drop below 400 quid at renwal time

Glad to see the majority of people on this site actually have a brain.

24th February 2006, 17:27

well said Ste, gotta say alot are stupid...mine was put down as blue! my car has never seen fuckin blue! check photo section, fav pics of your car for my "blue" car

24th February 2006, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by baz_saxo

well said Ste, gotta say alot are stupid...mine was put down as blue! my car has never seen fuckin blue! check photo section, fav pics of your car for my "blue" car

seen it before baz its very erm.........blue lol

just because they look doesnt mean half of them know whats different unless you've got a big bodykit etc on

24th February 2006, 18:49

awrite a told the insurance about the mods and am now paying an exrea 8.5% for the sol reason if they get stolen or set on fire satasfied now rat boy

24th February 2006, 19:32

no give me your details, if your telling the truth you def have nothing to worry about.

24th February 2006, 19:43

bet he dont give you them

24th February 2006, 19:46

name:joe bloggs
insurer:*v*o*i*d.insurance .co.uk
reg:gie cray

hope this helps you columbo

24th February 2006, 20:21

confirmed, your a knob.

25th February 2006, 03:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by grantsp51

name:joe bloggs
insurer:*v*o*i*d.insurance .co.uk
reg:gie cray

hope this helps you columbo

i recon u get a 1.1 and with the money you save on insurance geta a transplant, not an engine transplant a brain transplant you fuckin moron you must be the dumbest fucker on the planet.

25th February 2006, 03:53

i have only read this last page and i must say it`s f*c*ing hilarious!.. poor boy at 17 wanting a bigboys car from what i can see.. it doesnt work!. i can put my hand up and say "yes i was a wanker like you, i had a rapid car when i was 18. i had an axgt and i was flying up a dual carriage way passed a roundabout got about 1/4 mile up the road and some fool pulled out and cut me up!.. i avoided hitting the lady driver in a 106 and i hit the central reservation. the car turned over several times and ended up on its roof leaving just a square foot of space in the window for sombody to pull me out.. the car was soaked in petrol..luckily for me i was unhurt and no-one else was hurt either..
JUST A WORD OF ADVISE " DONT F*CK ABOUT ON PUBLIC ROADS!.

25th February 2006, 04:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by citroenaxgtr

i have only read this last page and i must say it`s f*c*ing hilarious!.. poor boy at 17 wanting a bigboys car from what i can see.. it doesnt work!. i can put my hand up and say "yes i was a wanker like you, i had a rapid car when i was 18. i had an axgt and i was flying up a dual carriage way passed a roundabout got about 1/4 mile up the road and some fool pulled out and cut me up!.. i avoided hitting the lady driver in a 106 and i hit the central reservation. the car turned over several times and ended up on its roof leaving just a square foot of space in the window for sombody to pull me out.. the car was soaked in petrol..luckily for me i was unhurt and no-one else was hurt either..
JUST A WORD OF ADVISE " DONT F*CK ABOUT ON PUBLIC ROADS!.

reading the full post i think i am a twat.. not reading properly, this post is about void insurance and not driving like a prick.. oh well..

25th February 2006, 05:42

wheres the luv in here

25th February 2006, 12:33

wat a penis no idea at all

25th February 2006, 12:43

i can see this thread will be closed soon

27th February 2006, 04:06

close the fucker im getting board of it anyway..

28th February 2006, 07:38

now i have only been driving a month but u really are a nob! im 23 therefor i can affor a VTR and to insure it, u my friend cant. i doubt u even have the car! from my first post i made on this thread i was trying to be nice but now ur just pissing me off!

28th February 2006, 11:36

leave the lad alone everyone has to start of somewhear with there car. so what if he hasent told the insurance company straight awaythat he has some mods on his car how many people do you think are on this site that havent told there insurance company about there mods. hey i have one or to bits on my car that i havent got round to telling my insurance yet. he is 17 and probably not long past his test. give that lad a break. rant over.

28th February 2006, 15:47

no i wont give the lad a break its illegal and potentially could harm anyone of us.

So you to have just admitted to driving without insurance, well done.

28th February 2006, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott

no i wont give the lad a break its illegal and potentially could harm anyone of us.

So you to have just admitted to driving without insurance, well done.

couldnt agree more.

when i was 17 my insurance was £2500 on a 1.0i i wanted it modded so i worked my arse off to pay for the extra insurance so i have no sympathy for people uninsured who crash.lets hope he smashes into a ferrari or a lambo.

28th February 2006, 19:34

us are fuckin excelent why do yous no work for scoctland yard or your local police if you want to fight crime so bad
if the world had wanabee crime fighters like yourselfs oh what a beter place the world would be

28th February 2006, 19:45

28th February 2006, 19:47

are u so sure 99% are driving legaly

28th February 2006, 21:04

i dont care YOU are openly flaunting it, how can you expect us not to be annoyed we all pay inflated insurance because of idiots that dont delcare modifications, dont pay insurance etc... etc...

Dont be a twat and just pay the messly few pounds and actually have your car insured.