New gmc btb in s/s

6th December 2009, 17:27

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thought i would share my new manifold with you's

6th December 2009, 17:31

weird how they never uploaded... must be doin somethin wrong

6th December 2009, 17:32

try photobucket?

6th December 2009, 17:38

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second attempt hope this works...it is through fotobucket

6th December 2009, 17:40

6th December 2009, 17:42

been crying out to be in SS and not mild steel for to long.

6th December 2009, 17:43

Do they do a 4-2-1?

6th December 2009, 17:47

i think its only 4-1 but i could be wrong.. give gmc a ring

6th December 2009, 18:44

Is ther much of a gain between these and a cheap 4-2-1 ?

6th December 2009, 18:54

depends wat mods uve done.. ive bought as im boostin

6th December 2009, 18:56

true i suppose im on boddies atm

6th December 2009, 18:59

which manifold you currently using?

6th December 2009, 20:15

Thecherry0121 - i have the perfect manifold for you

Maniflow race spec manifold.

6th December 2009, 20:32

how much did it set you back if you dont mind sharing.

6th December 2009, 21:15

by the looks of the welds its been done with mild steel wire.
adam

7th December 2009, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by webby

how much did it set you back if you dont mind sharing.

http://www.gmcmotorsport.co.uk/index...roducts_id=250

7th December 2009, 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle4256

depends wat mods uve done.. ive bought as im boostin

Erm.....

??

7th December 2009, 02:35

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Originally Posted by Paul

Erm.....

??

Turbo?

7th December 2009, 08:10

only for the vtr at the moment?

7th December 2009, 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyle4256

depends wat mods uve done.. ive bought as im boostin

In that case will you be sending it back for a refund instantly?

7th December 2009, 17:30

^^ i thought that.

must be a charger!

id like to see some pictures of this sat along side of the standard one if possible.

7th December 2009, 19:16

yeah he'll mean supercharging surely

7th December 2009, 21:21

I hope so. Lol

7th December 2009, 22:22

ye superchargin

8th December 2009, 10:28

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Originally Posted by kyle4256

ye superchargin

Thank god for that.

Would of been the Fail of the year. lol

8th December 2009, 10:52

lol

8th December 2009, 19:12

I swear people forget that boost means boost not turbo.

A supercharger comes into the same catagory

8th December 2009, 20:03

yeah but when people say boosting normally means turboing and charging as in supercharger! well it might just be dumb me but when he said that i toke it he meant turbo and i thought wrong mani but then it came clearer

! like i say it might just be me!

9th December 2009, 01:41

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Originally Posted by Ryan

I swear people forget that boost means boost not turbo.

A supercharger comes into the same catagory

I must admit these days when people mention boost i automatically think "turbo" due to all the 'turbo-projects' that are going on atm.

I know it means supercharge aswell, but not many people supercharge their saxo's these days, most of the time its more expensive. However definately better than turbo'ing imo. Majority of saxo owners don't have thousands to spend on their saxos.

Imagine the Fail if he was going turbo

9th December 2009, 02:49

i knew he was supercharging when he mentioned boost as well as buying a btb!

im buying a btb for my supercharged vts

9th December 2009, 03:03

I'm either looking at a GMC 4-1 or a Piper 4-1 ready for my Jp4 head, and when i get tb's

Andy

9th December 2009, 20:52

btb system is the dogs nutz like ! id recomend it to anyone !

9th December 2009, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

been crying out to be in SS and not mild steel for to long.

Agreed

Piper make them now dont they?

9th December 2009, 22:57

gmc is the btb and piper one is different iirc.

9th December 2009, 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

Agreed

Piper make them now dont they?

I would have thought that the BTB manifolds were indeed made by BTB

9th December 2009, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by pjm300

I would have thought that the BTB manifolds were indeed made by BTB

I thought BTB made the original ones, then piper start making them after BTB stopped.

Am sure Ryan will correct me if am wrong

9th December 2009, 23:07

There have certainly been people buying the BTB & recieving a manifold with the piper badge stamped on it in the past.

9th December 2009, 23:07

when I emailed gmc about one a wee while back. I asked about there 16v mani and I got the reply saying there 16v mani was being made by btb and would be available to buy soon. So I take it from that the piper is different.

9th December 2009, 23:07

i have a piper
its a bit different the the btb i compared to (finchys) but essentially they are similar but iirc the btb has a larger collector

9th December 2009, 23:10

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Originally Posted by AlexB

i have a piper
its a bit different the the btb i compared to (finchys) but essentially they are similar but iirc the btb has a larger collector

Hasn't it only been larger in the last year or so? Didn't they increase the size so it was bigger then the previous one.

TBH looking at the pics they look both the same.

9th December 2009, 23:13

ive only had mine nearly 2 years and from back when i bought it i read the btb was bigger

the branches actually run differently lookng at mine and finchys

9th December 2009, 23:15

Yeah i mean it was the bigger on, but am sure they made the collector even bigger to what it was back then.

9th December 2009, 23:16

not sure then tbh man

9th December 2009, 23:17

looks like the pipes run differently going by the pic on pipers website:
http://www.piperexhausts.co.uk/exhau...oducts_id=1582

9th December 2009, 23:17

Looks like an excellent quality manifold - would definitely be my choice if money were no object.

9th December 2009, 23:19

I tell a lie

Primaries are shorter on piper then a BTB, which will move the 'tuned' rpm higher up the range

Collector on Piper is 2inch and the BTB is 2.5 inch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic

There have certainly been people buying the BTB & recieving a manifold with the piper badge stamped on it in the past.

Yep my old one did.

9th December 2009, 23:31

whats the clearance like on this compared to standard? i want one but dont wanna wreck it. i'd love a full btb system to go with a set of bodies (which im 90"% set on doing in summer after ibiza!)

9th December 2009, 23:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

Primaries are shorter on piper then a BTB, which will move the 'tuned' rpm higher up the range

explained perfectly by mine on stock cams and map making peak power over 7k lol

9th December 2009, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeeM

whats the clearance like on this compared to standard? i want one but dont wanna wreck it. i'd love a full btb system to go with a set of bodies (which im 90"% set on doing in summer after ibiza!)

THE Piper one is gonna sit higer up mate, the BTB always hung low so it can catch a little depending on how low your car is, nowt to worry about, I had 50mm on the front only ever caught on mega bummy roads

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

explained perfectly by mine on stock cams and map making peak power over 7k lol

Nice

9th December 2009, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

I thought BTB made the original ones, then piper start making them after BTB stopped.

Am sure Ryan will correct me if am wrong

BTB is the brand name, hence why they were BTB manifolds and exhausts and not piper. If Gmc sent out piper exhaust manifolds advertising them as BTB ones I doubt BTB would be to happy about it

10th December 2009, 00:13

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Originally Posted by Ryan

BTB is the brand name, hence why they were BTB manifolds and exhausts and not piper. If Gmc sent out piper exhaust manifolds advertising them as BTB ones I doubt BTB would be to happy about it

This is true

After having 3 btb's the piper does look a nice bit of kit! I could be converted if i still owned a pug/cit

10th December 2009, 10:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by leeroybrown

I tell a lie

Primaries are shorter on piper then a BTB, which will move the 'tuned' rpm higher up the range

Collector on Piper is 2inch and the BTB is 2.5 inch

Yep my old one did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexB

explained perfectly by mine on stock cams and map making peak power over 7k lol

so is it worth that extra bit of money to get a BTB over a piper? I'm going to be buying one soon and this thread has confuzzeled me now. Just the piper and the "tuned" rpm bit has put me off it.

10th December 2009, 11:19

I cant really say anything about the Piper never owned one, But I've had 3 BTB's and never been disappointed.

10th December 2009, 11:53

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Originally Posted by stupotvtr

so is it worth that extra bit of money to get a BTB over a piper? I'm going to be buying one soon and this thread has confuzzeled me now. Just the piper and the "tuned" rpm bit has put me off it.

its neglegable tbh
with cams ect comparing to dans vts when he had it (r7 vts) figures and where wise there wasnt much difference (btb on 708s 153 at 6600 piper and ph3 152 at 6800)
but on stock cams it was very high like

i know there are other variables ect in it all but tbh i doubt most would notice the differnce

10th December 2009, 11:59

I love my BTB (exhaust and mani), Bodies make up the mid range, btb adds onto the top end

10th December 2009, 12:04

i think i should invest in a 4-1

10th December 2009, 12:17

Mine pops and bangs like fook

Bwwwaaarrrpppppp bang bang bang bbwwaaarrrpppp Lol