1.4 box on a vtr

1. sammy90 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Essex Posts: 170 1997 Peugeot 106 GTi

   #1 17th December 2009, 17:10

   Would a 1.4 furio gearbox fit on a vtr using vtr driveshafts?
2. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

   #2 17th December 2009, 17:14

   Yes, it's the hubs that matter, not the box.
3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 17th December 2009, 17:17

   No, you need to change one of your driveshafts as it will be too short or long cant rmember which now. Youll need a non VT non sports driveshaft.
4. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

   #4 17th December 2009, 17:19

   How come I can use VTR shafts on a 1.1 box then?
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 17th December 2009, 17:20

   They might be longer than the VT ones then. Couse if theyre too short then obviously it wont be all the way in, if its longer then should seal fine.
6. sammy90 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Essex Posts: 170 1997 Peugeot 106 GTi

   #6 17th December 2009, 17:27

   Would would it drive like with a 1.4 box?
7. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #7 17th December 2009, 18:03

   Pretty much the same as a vtr box really.
   
   I fitted a non-sports driveshaft with a sports box and the driveshaft was around 1" too short and hit the diff. - the gearbox leaked fluid
   
   I'm not sure about the other way round, but I'd fit matching shafts so the car remains reliable
8. sammy90 Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Essex Posts: 170 1997 Peugeot 106 GTi

   #8 17th December 2009, 18:51

   So can I keep my vtr shafts and hubs with a 1.4 box then? I may look for a 1.1 box
9. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #9 17th December 2009, 19:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by sammy90 So can I keep my vtr shafts and hubs with a 1.4 box then? I may look for a 1.1 box

   I don't know, I've never tried it.
   
   All I know is the diffs are different and the end of the shafts that go into the box are different - don't skimp and just bung some non-sports on it too
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 17th December 2009, 19:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz just bung some non-sports on it too

    theres a reason they changed the shafts for the bigger models
    
    on a 1.1 i sheared a non sports shaft in half
    god knows what an extra 30hp will do to a hollow driveshaft
11. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #11 17th December 2009, 19:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax No, you need to change one of your driveshafts as it will be too short or long cant rmember which now. Youll need a non VT non sports driveshaft.

    furio and vtr driveshafts are the same so no you wont, the only difference between vtr and furio are arbs, box ratios, engine, and rear brakes so fitting a furio box is fine.
12. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #12 17th December 2009, 21:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB theres a reason they changed the shafts for the bigger models on a 1.1 i sheared a non sports shaft in half god knows what an extra 30hp will do to a hollow driveshaft

    I only feel you should pair the right driveshafts and gearbox so that you don't end up with any potential problems with the depth of driveshaft splines locating in the diff. I've never run a sports shaft in a non-sports box so can't say about durability.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E3D furio and vtr driveshafts are the same so no you wont, the only difference between vtr and furio are arbs, box ratios, engine, and rear brakes so fitting a furio box is fine.

    Furio and vtr shafts are different at the diff end
13. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #13 17th December 2009, 22:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E3D furio and vtr driveshafts are the same so no you wont, the only difference between vtr and furio are arbs, box ratios, engine, and rear brakes so fitting a furio box is fine.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz I only feel you should pair the right driveshafts and gearbox so that you don't end up with any potential problems with the depth of driveshaft splines locating in the diff. I've never run a sports shaft in a non-sports box so can't say about durability. Furio and vtr shafts are different at the diff end

    What he said about the Driveshafts. As they are different...
14. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #14 17th December 2009, 22:16

    oops then i have vtr shafts on my furio box no current issues.