Heatwraping my manifold

1. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #1 19th December 2009, 14:43

   Hey guys.
   
   Well im hoping to get this done in my 2 weeks off.
   
   2 reasons really, my manifold looks terrible and for the gains/heat reduction it may give.
   
   Just a few questions really (yes ive searched!)
   
   It will be to wrap a 4-1 manifold, how much will i need exactly?? Been looking at this HERE which says its 10 meters long.... im presuming i will need 2 roles of this but just wanted to check. The above also comes with SS cable ties.
   
   Now im guessing with mine being a 4-1 ill wrap each one as far down as i can get it, then wrap abit further up from when they join untill i reach where it joins to the centre pipe, correct?
   
   Finally, ive been looking at this HERE probs get it in Aluminium, would that be any good also, just to protect the wrap??
   
   Any advice would be good
   
   Will also do a "how-to-guide" when i come to do this
   
   Thanks guys
   
   Karl.
2. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #2 19th December 2009, 15:07

   Definetly get 2 rolls, 10 metres isn't all that much considering the width of it.
   
   And yes get the coating, every little helps
   
   "Now im guessing with mine being a 4-1 ill wrap each one as far down as i can get it, then wrap abit further up from when they join untill i reach where it joins to the centre pipe, correct?"
   
   Thats how i have seen it done in the past
3. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #3 19th December 2009, 15:10

   Thanks mate
   
   and the coating is to go ontop of the wrap lol
   
   Mainly to protect it from oil and other contaminates.
   
   Ive seen people saying to wet the wrap before trying to wrap it, is this best or not really needed ??
4. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #4 19th December 2009, 15:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxo_89 Thanks mate and the coating is to go ontop of the wrap lol Mainly to protect it from oil and other contaminates. Ive seen people saying to wet the wrap before trying to wrap it, is this best or not really needed ??

   I have heard the wet thing aswell, dont really know as i havnt done it myself so cant really help you there i am afraid.
   
   And i thought the coating went direct onto the manifold
   
   But get it anyway to protect the wrap, i have seen wrap turn really dirty / horrible after about a year so it would be beneficial.
5. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

   #5 19th December 2009, 15:41

   mate i wrapped my mani using... the heatwrap from kam.. wet it before apply
   
   1) keep the dust to a min and also when it dries it gets tighter.. take your time mate... mine looks awesome took me ages..
   
   buy the metal ties... Kam racing have a guide on there site mate
6. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #6 19th December 2009, 15:51

   Aren't you going turbo?
   
   Might be worth waiting and wrapping your turbo manifold and down-pipe?
7. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

   #7 19th December 2009, 15:54

   Invest in some good quality stainless steel tie wraps to secure the wrap mate
   
   * EDIT* Make sure you wet the wrap aswel just before you put in on
8. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #8 19th December 2009, 16:57

   1"x10 wont be enough, 2"x10m is plenty though
9. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #9 19th December 2009, 21:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz Aren't you going turbo? Might be worth waiting and wrapping your turbo manifold and down-pipe?

   Yea i am mate but wont be till summer time when its finished, the turbo downpipe is already heat wrapped and im using a adapted standard mani for my turbo so cant heat wrap it
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom 1"x10 wont be enough, 2"x10m is plenty though

   Thanks for clearing that up mate
   
   why is it that u wet it before applying???
10. moxy89 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Southampton Posts: 8188 Astra vxr with added boost

    #10 19th December 2009, 21:18

    wet it before applying as when it dries the wrap shrinks firmly onto the mani mate....
11. Dboyvts Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 paisley Posts: 1211 supercharged vts, R324r gtr, Rb30 R32 gtr.

    #11 19th December 2009, 21:19

    the 2" by 10m should be loads but never do any harm if you double wrap it like i did on my btb mani, the wrap needs to be wet when you fit it lets the wrap set and also keeps the dust down, Give it a good spray with hi temp paint or a sealant to stop it socking in oil and water.
12. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #12 19th December 2009, 21:19

    ok, thanks
13. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #13 19th December 2009, 21:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dboyvts the 2" by 10m should be loads but never do any harm if you double wrap it like i did on my btb mani, the wrap needs to be wet when you fit it lets the wrap set and also keeps the dust down, Give it a good spray with hi temp paint or a sealant to stop it socking in oil and water.

    Think i will buy 2 JUST to be sure, and yea, i may double wrap.
    
    Will the paint stuff in the second link i posted be ok to spray once ive wrapped it??
    
    Just wondering, if im weting the wrap, how long will it take to dry so i can spray it, as obviously cant spray it when its wet OR on the car...
14. johnc88 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Fareham, Hampshire Posts: 177 Black VTR PhaseII

    #14 19th December 2009, 21:39

    what differences in performance do you usually see by heatwrapping and why?
15. Dboyvts Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 paisley Posts: 1211 supercharged vts, R324r gtr, Rb30 R32 gtr.

    #15 19th December 2009, 21:41

    None it just keeps the heat under the bonnet down.
    Some mite say it helps lower intake temps but when a saxo is moving there is not to much hot air under the bonnet.
16. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #16 19th December 2009, 21:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dboyvts None it just keeps the heat under the bonnet down. Some mite say it helps lower intake temps but when a saxo is moving there is not to much hot air under the bonnet.

    Dont forget exhaust scavenging
    
    It basically makes the exhaust gases hotter, which in theory makes them flow faster
17. Dboyvts Established Member Joined: Apr 2007 paisley Posts: 1211 supercharged vts, R324r gtr, Rb30 R32 gtr.

    #17 19th December 2009, 21:45

    lol never needed to think about that in mine since my wraped btb still glowed cherry red so think the gasses were flowinf quite fast.