ph3s pre map cam timing

1. webby Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456

   #1 23rd December 2009, 21:52

   what have people found to be the best for ph3s before mapping?
   standard marks, newmans recomendation or your own.
2. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #2 23rd December 2009, 21:55

   standard marks. inlet retarded 3degrees iirc
3. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #3 23rd December 2009, 22:02

   set mine up for peak power, 110 degress on both cams, it will run fine, i ran mine like this for 6 months unmapped
4. webby Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456

   #4 23rd December 2009, 23:03

   when you went and had it mapped gouldy what was the base figure it put down unmapped?
5. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #5 23rd December 2009, 23:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by webby when you went and had it mapped gouldy what was the base figure it put down?

   it was fucking shocking honestly, but i had loads of faults with the car.
   
   once the faults were sorted out it ran 138@ fly at chip wizards but that was with a really really shit map on it (not standard, thank BHP tuner for that the cocks)
6. webby Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456

   #6 24th December 2009, 00:19

   was it one of those generic maps that gets thrown on from bhp tuner? was there a deffinate increase in power even unmapped?
7. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #7 24th December 2009, 08:58

   retare the inlet 2 degree will run like standard unmapped.
   
   but even standard mark it wil be ok.
   
   andy
8. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #8 24th December 2009, 10:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by webby was it one of those generic maps that gets thrown on from bhp tuner? was there a deffinate increase in power even unmapped?

   yea, your classic copy and paste generic mapping. even though it was supposed to be a live map. the nob heads.
   
   yea it will feel to pull better with just the cams but your only getting 50% of the potential power unmapped. you notice the difference twice over
9. coffs_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 190

   #9 24th December 2009, 10:26

   im fitting ph3's in a few weeks, im also interested in what timing to set it to, i will prob be driving the car for a couple weeks unmapped, so ideally i just want it to idle and be relaible lol
10. luthor1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802

    #10 24th December 2009, 10:46

    I tend to advance the exhaust rather than retard the intake.
    
    Andy
11. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #11 24th December 2009, 12:10

    yer yer when mapped advancing the exhaust cam is ok, but umpped ken newman told me to retard the inlet 2 degrees, and it worked very well for me!
    
    andy