Fitting new Springs/shock £?

24th December 2009, 00:05

Anyone know roughly how much id be paying someone to fit these for me?

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...eugeot-87.html

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-50mm-137.html

Cheers

24th December 2009, 04:34

Around £100 but will depend on if you get a garage to do it or someone off here

24th December 2009, 11:46

Cost me double to get a garage to do it mate, £100 isnt too bad, cheers

24th December 2009, 12:15

Best bet is someone off here, garages will charge a fair bit in labour tbh

24th December 2009, 12:17

it's not a hard thing to do - fitting shocks and springs.

the 'hard' bit is lowering the rear

24th December 2009, 12:32

you need a lot of special tools to do, thts the only hard bit about it.. its pritty simple if u have a guide!

24th December 2009, 12:49

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Originally Posted by saxvtr03

you need a lot of special tools to do, thts the only hard bit about it.. its pritty simple if u have a guide!

yeh definately - all the 'special' tools needed are a punch set, spring clamps - maybe a swan-neck (18mm spanner iirc) and most probably a dremel/angle grinder! (knowing the droplink nuts and the allen to counterhold it)

24th December 2009, 13:10

The car is already lowered 40mm back and front, just want something better. I asked Kev at Kamracing and he recommended these. Hopefully i wont need anything else.

What you guys think?

24th December 2009, 13:29

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Originally Posted by machevelli7777

The car is already lowered 40mm back and front, just want something better. I asked Kev at Kamracing and he recommended these. Hopefully i wont need anything else.

What you guys think?

Yeh is a good kit tbh - great all-round kit for fast road.

40mm is a nice height too. Will be nice when all fitted !

24th December 2009, 13:29

Why not go for 155lb Falkner springs instead of the Eibach ones?

Other than that the B8 dampers are really good

Get upper and lower braces and polybushes and you will have a really good suspension setup

24th December 2009, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Why not go for 150lb Falkner springs instead of the Eibach ones?

Other than that the B8 dampers are really good

Get upper and lower braces and polybushes and you will have a really good suspension setup

Want to leave the lower braces mate cos of speedbumps etc around my area, just want a decent all round day to day setup and not worry about anything after

And the upper brace ill get some other time. Polybushes?? What are they and what do they do?

Whats the difference in springs?

Cheers

24th December 2009, 13:34

The Falkner springs are stiffer iirc but since you said a day to day setup then i would stick with the Eibach

And for poly-bushes see this: Clicky

24th December 2009, 13:37

May aswell ask some other question while the threads up

Does it matter if the back is 40mm and the front is 50mm? Cheers

24th December 2009, 13:38

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Originally Posted by machevelli7777

May aswell ask some other question while the threads up

Does it matter if the back is 40mm and the front is 50mm? Cheers

From a looks point of view its entirely upto you, but from a performance view then i think 45mm or 50mm back and 40mm front is the best.

24th December 2009, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

The Falkner springs are stiffer iirc but since you said a day to day setup then i would stick with the Eibach

And for poly-bushes see this: Clicky

Is this something ill be replacing every year?

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Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

From a looks point of view its entirely upto you, but from a performance view then i think 45mm or 50mm back and 40mm front is the best.

Well think the front will be around 45-50 and rear 40mm lol It looks nice as it is so might just do with it, will be fine anyways i think

24th December 2009, 13:44

Alright raunchz? Want all opinions on this one, quite abit of money will be spent so want it right

24th December 2009, 13:46

Sorry to ask so many questions but whats the difference between Dampers and Shocks?

Do you need both of these or one or the other? Cheers

24th December 2009, 13:55

simply - dampers and shocks are the same with regards to suspension on a saxo. All you'll need are front and rear dampers (2x for the front, one each side, and 2x for the rear, one each side)

For a daily ride I'd tend to steer to the eibachs - as the faulkners are a bit stiffer. If you're looking to maybe get into some trackdays or keep the car as a second car then I'd skip the 155lb faulkners and go for around 170-180lb springs, but then might be worth going for Group N bilsteins.

Polybush will last longer than normal, and 'stiffen' up the feel of the car, well worth fitting with uprated suspension

24th December 2009, 14:10

Wont be doing any track days mate, as for the eibachs, they only do 45-50mm springs, on the faulkners they do 40mm, which would be better for the looks/performance. Dont think i would mind it being stiffer.

Comming to think of it all and what you said about the rear having dampers to - on how much it was cost me in total around 700£ - i might aswell go for something cheaper if i want the whole lot done, which to me would be better. What you think?

I hate making expensive choices.

24th December 2009, 14:15

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Originally Posted by machevelli7777

Wont be doing any track days mate, as for the eibachs, they only do 45-50mm springs, on the faulkners they do 40mm, which would be better for the looks/performance. Dont think i would mind it being stiffer.

Comming to think of it all and what you said about the rear having dampers to - on how much it was cost me in total around 700£ - i might aswell go for something cheaper if i want the whole lot done, which to me would be better. What you think?

I hate making expensive choices.

I would tend to try and buy the 'best' kit you can afford. The faulkners are good springs, and the car will handle good with them. It all depends really on the sort of roads you'll be driving on and how low you want to go. 40mm is a good height, means you can run a lower brace with little risk of catching it, and you shouldn't go through suspension parts too quickly.

At the endo f the day it's your choice really, go lower but maybe a bit more comfort, or slightly higher and a bit stiffer. Personally I'd go higher and stiffer but people have to decide what they want from the car, and sometime the look of 50mm is all people want with a bit more comfort.

Regarding polybushes, you might want to hold off buying them for a bit - buy some at a bargain price in the future, and then fit them when your old bushes are shot? Sort of killing two birds with one stone, and saving you money now?

24th December 2009, 14:25

Yea i understand all that mate, i like it at 40mm all round and as you say some people want there ride height with comfort. Im seeing it as i still have the standard shocks on and would like to replce them something better newer. Was looking at the apex kits which i know yes they are cheaper but must be better than my standard.

Wasnt until kev said about the Bilstein B8's and the eibach springs i thought yea would and sounds awesome, but then you say the rear to. does the rear really matter for comfort? I suppose it does, more so than the front? Would it be worth getting the rear done first than the front?

24th December 2009, 14:33

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Originally Posted by machevelli7777

Yea i understand all that mate, i like it at 40mm all round and as you say some people want there ride height with comfort. Im seeing it as i still have the standard shocks on and would like to replce them something better newer. Was looking at the apex kits which i know yes they are cheaper but must be better than my standard.

Wasnt until kev said about the Bilstein B8's and the eibach springs i thought yea would and sounds awesome, but then you say the rear to. does the rear really matter for comfort? I suppose it does, more so than the front? Would it be worth getting the rear done first than the front?

It'd save and buy it as a kit (front and rear dampers) - but saying that, it is easy in the future to fit some rear dampers if money is tight.

Apex are a good kit from reading peoples feedback on here - so are the Bilstein B8 shocks.

From reading what you're saying, I'd go for the b8 full kit (front and rear) and faulkner springs (40mm) as you say you don't mind about it being a bit stiff, and want to keep a 40mm height. IF you cant afford that, then maybe get the front b8's and faulkner springs and get them fitted. When you have more money you can get the b8's fitted to the rear (v.easy to do) and then polybush your car as and when the standard bushes begin to wear out?

You'll miss the saving of buying the kit as a whole, but isn't a massive amount of money difference buying it separately.

24th December 2009, 14:36

Would you know where i could purchase the full B8 kit? Just to know the price. The faulkner springs i can get of KamRacing.

Cheers raunchz

Have to pop out now but will reply later.

24th December 2009, 14:52

Full B8 damper kit - £330 (plus say £10 shipping)
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...eugeot-87.html

Or front B8's . £108 each so £216 (plus £10 shipping)
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-saxo-694.html

Rear B8's. £78 each so £156 (plus £10 shipping)
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-saxo-121.html

Total £372 (plus £20 shipping in total for buying them separately)

£340 (buying the kit as one) vs. £392 (ordering fronts and rears separately) - I know how I'd rather buy them!! Didn't realise the difference was soo much.

Faulkner Springs - £88
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-40mm-129.html

Total = £418 (ex shipping - say £10) = £430 total if bought all together

OR

Total £480 (plus then £20 shipping for buying the fronts and rears separate) = £500 overall

IF you can afford it would be better to buy as one order, but depends on your finances tbh

24th December 2009, 18:18

Haha, sorry mate had to laugh, i thought that Full B8 Damper kit was just the front, no wonder i thought i was going to have to spend 800 or so pounds on the whole lot, 418£ sounds good, think i may go for that kit then.

Plus the Faulkner springs sound be fun! Plus ill have my 40 mm all round which is what i want. Happy days.

Thanks for the info guys.

Happy Christmas!

24th December 2009, 18:20

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Originally Posted by machevelli7777

Haha, sorry mate had to laugh, i thought that Full B8 Damper kit was just the front, no wonder i thought i was going to have to spend 800 or so pounds on the whole lot, 418£ sounds good, think i may go for that kit then.

Plus the Faulkner springs sound be fun! Plus ill have my 40 mm all round which is what i want. Happy days.

Thanks for the info guys.

Happy Christmas!

No problem, merry Xmas to you also