supersrprint exhaust system

24th December 2009, 23:12

i currently have asupersprint 4-2-1 mani, supersprint race section and the supersrpint magnum backbox..
it sounds very raaspy and i love it

and majority of the time pops changing from 1st to 2nd, and sumtimes coming down the revs

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if i was to change it to the supersprint 2" backbox do you think it would become raspier? and pop more?
ive been told the 2" pops alot

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and also, how do u get the exhaust to flame?
and not with a chavvy flame starter kit thingy

cheers guys

24th December 2009, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

i currently have asupersprint 4-2-1 mani, supersprint race section and the supersrpint magnum backbox..
it sounds very raaspy and i love it

and majority of the time pops changing from 1st to 2nd, and sumtimes coming down the revs

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if i was to change it to the supersprint 2" backbox do you think it would become raspier? and pop more?
ive been told the 2" pops alot

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and also, how do u get the exhaust to flame?
and not with a chavvy flame starter kit thingy

cheers guys

If would be less deap and more raspy yes

24th December 2009, 23:24

do you have a vid? i have everything you have bare the mani...
and i want the mani .. just wanna know what it sound slike

24th December 2009, 23:29

mate it will change to nosie, listen to mine

andy

24th December 2009, 23:44

i love the sound of yours andy, but you had the cams and the 16v instead of my lousy 8 lol.. so thought it wudnt sound that alike, havnt heard it with the bodies yet

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does yours pop mate??

and nop no videoim afraid

, sorry mate...
does sound good tho mate, get the mani, you wnt regret it

24th December 2009, 23:47

i know its something hard to describe over the internet but what differences did you find when the mani got fitted , noise and performance wise..

from just the centre and backbox?

24th December 2009, 23:51

performance, acceleration seemed better, and seemed to pick up alot more after abiout 3k revs.. not sure if that a common thing but sumfing i noticed, mines mk2 so with the new mani it de-catted my car.
defo noticed a difference, and the difference to the noise was huge, with the standard mani, and the rece sectiona nd backbox, it wasnt very loud, but was a pretty nice sound, when mani got changed, was alot louder and very raspy, alot nicer

24th December 2009, 23:52

I've got SuperSprint 4-2-1, SuperSprint Race Centre Section and SuperSprint 2" Backbox and it pops all the time, changing gear, letting off etc etc. Also flames when changing down gears at times and on idol if you just tap the throttle. Great system and a great sound imo. Will be more raspy and should pop more than your magnum backbox

24th December 2009, 23:54

right then mani is on the cards next month im saying

mines a mk2 too so decat all the way

cheers mate..
if you could get a quick vid i would be huuuuuuugely thankfull

24th December 2009, 23:55

I've got a vid of my supersprint full system if you wanna see it. Nothing special but i'll try and hook it out quick and post it here.

24th December 2009, 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRC1

I've got SuperSprint 4-2-1, SuperSprint Race Centre Section and SuperSprint 2" Backbox and it pops all the time, changing gear, letting off etc etc. Also flames when changing down gears at times and on idol if you just tap the throttle. Great system and a great sound imo. Will be more raspy and should pop more than your magnum backbox

that is exactly what i wanted to hear

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thank you mate, love your car btw, white mk2s look gorgeous espesh colour coded

24th December 2009, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lancek

right then mani is on the cards next month im saying

mines a mk2 too so decat all the way

cheers mate..
if you could get a quick vid i would be huuuuuuugely thankfull

id buy it mate, defo worth it

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just remember to get a cat bak on ther for your MOT lol...

and yea if you could get that vid up mate would be perfect

24th December 2009, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

i love the sound of yours andy, but you had the cams and the 16v instead of my lousy 8 lol.. so thought it wudnt sound that alike, havnt heard it with the bodies yet

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does yours pop mate??

and nop no videoim afraid

, sorry mate...
does sound good tho mate, get the mani, you wnt regret it

mate it mental now, i will show you it in the new year, the noise it crazy and pops and bang all the time as it done on my map now

andy

25th December 2009, 00:01

Not a great vid. Like I said above pops and bangs all of the time without fail on every gear change and when letting off. Flames can't really be seen in the vid because I had just washed the car and the zorst was still damp!

25th December 2009, 00:01

yea u better, im gna hold you too it

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everytime i drive past yours i try and have a sneaky peek see if much is going on, im gna end up crashing down that bloody road soon keep looking in lol..
love your car tho

25th December 2009, 00:03

love that noise

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does sound fair bit raspier than mine..
cnt wait to get old of the 2" backbox nw

25th December 2009, 00:07

dnt want flames as it over fueling!!

but mine is set up to bang and pop!! i did get abit of flame action to other week on over run!!

but you dont really want flames to come out as that is over fueling on standard engine!!

andy

25th December 2009, 00:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

dnt want flames as it over fueling!!

but mine is set up to bang and pop!! i did get abit of flame action to other week on over run!!

but you dont really want flames to come out as that is over fueling on standard engine!!

andy

I don't get it all the time mate, just now and again. It's not like it flames every time I start her up or change gear lol, i'd be bloody worried if it did! Just burns a bit of fuel due to using 99 RON all of the time. Never flamed when I used 95 RON to my knowledge so I guess that's what it is... Kinda cool though

Goes with the pops and bangs nicely lol

25th December 2009, 00:24

at the risk of sounding a div, i love it when an exhasut flames, like when watching rallying and u hear the car popping and banging the start flaming, flame just tops of the popping, i love it

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but yea can see why it happening all the time could be a bad thing lol..
andy what u mean yours is set up to pop and bang?

25th December 2009, 00:24

i use 99 shell v power, but my is mapped to pop and bang!!

mine only flames on over runs sometimes, think it happen twice since i had the bodies on,

i was just saying that flaming not a good thing, but not habing ago, anyway it xmas day!!

andy

25th December 2009, 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

at the risk of sounding a div, i love it when an exhasut flames, like when watching rallying and u hear the car popping and banging the start flaming, flame just tops of the popping, i love it

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but yea can see why it happening all the time could be a bad thing lol..
andy what u mean yours is set up to pop and bang?

mine is mapped to pop and bang!

you will see what i take you out in it,

andy

25th December 2009, 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXO

i use 99 shell v power, but my is mapped to pop and bang!!

mine only flames on over runs sometimes, think it happen twice since i had the bodies on,

i was just saying that flaming not a good thing, but not habing ago, anyway it xmas day!!

andy

Know you weren't having a go mate lol!

I didn't know you could get it set up to pop and bang. Like mine does it anyway so did yours do it before but just does it even more now?

Yes it is

Happy Christmas

25th December 2009, 00:29

yea i didnt know u could set it to pop and bang..
am i right i thinking a remap on my car would be abslolutely pointless??
cnt wait to get the 2" now have heard whats its liek from you 2

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and it is indeedy, merry christmas everyone

25th December 2009, 08:02

you can do what i did, as yes a re map would be.

andy

25th December 2009, 12:29

i thought as much..
ahh well...
if i cammed it then i should get a remap??

25th December 2009, 12:34

yes get it cammed then get a remap!!

andy

25th December 2009, 12:41

see what the new year brings

and also, how u know which wheel goes on the car where?
i thought it made no diff, but have heard that there a certain way they gotta go??

25th December 2009, 13:09

i have a vid of mine for you, supersprint system but with raceland mani and of course a cam lol,

http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/t...t=IMG_0006.flv

you know you want a cammed 8v lol
sounds better in person, it is unmapped though definatly needs a remap

but depending on what cam you get you may not need a remap, if you get a mild one it will be fine without a remap

25th December 2009, 15:13

sounds good in the vid mate..
what cam u running??
and u no wat bhp its running now? so no the kinda gains u had from it..
i very tempted to get it cammed

25th December 2009, 15:18

im running a newmans ph2 cause i have a rallye head, its the same as the ph3 cam duration wise and theres like 0.05mm lift difference i think which really will make sod all difference lol, but the ph2 is made for bigbearing heads like rallye and xsi, cause a ph3 cam wont fit in them heads due to bearing size
so youd see the same results as me roughly with that ph3 and s1 rallye inlet
its running about 120bhp atm when i had it on rollers last week, but im going on again in couple of weeks to adjust the cam a bit more see if i can get any more improvments

it is worth it imo, 16v would be better base, but depends what you want to do
i enjoy mine and glad i cammed it in a way, ad its very fast lol even unmapped, should be good when its mapped and i have the higher limiter

ive just updated my progress thread with ful spec and info, so go have a browse at that if you want to give you an idea, plus if you go back a few pages i listed what i did and what was needed to do the conversion to run the rallye head and cam it etc

25th December 2009, 15:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtr_chris90

im running a newmans ph2 cause i have a rallye head, its the same as the ph3 cam duration wise and theres like 0.05mm lift difference i think which really will make sod all difference lol, but the ph2 is made for bigbearing heads like rallye and xsi, cause a ph3 cam wont fit in them heads due to bearing size
so youd see the same results as me roughly with that ph3 and s1 rallye inlet
its running about 120bhp atm when i had it on rollers last week, but im going on again in couple of weeks to adjust the cam a bit more see if i can get any more improvments

it is worth it imo, 16v would be better base, but depends what you want to do
i enjoy mine and glad i cammed it in a way, ad its very fast lol even unmapped, should be good when its mapped and i have the higher limiter

ive just updated my progress thread with ful spec and info, so go have a browse at that if you want to give you an idea, plus if you go back a few pages i listed what i did and what was needed to do the conversion to run the rallye head and cam it etc

very good improvements then, so youve gaind what 30 bhp?
the mk1 vtr 90bhp standard isnt it?
so doing this to mine, would be very worth it

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how much has it set you back mate??
and will have a butchers through your thread in a min

25th December 2009, 15:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

very good improvements then, so youve gaind what 30 bhp?
the mk1 vtr 90bhp standard isnt it?
so doing this to mine, would be very worth it

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how much has it set you back mate??
and will have a butchers through your thread in a min

Depends how you look at it, by VTR standards it would be a good figure, but still only 120bhp which is standard VTS teritory...

25th December 2009, 15:44

yer about that and it still needs a remap, it will still gain a bit more with one, i was hoping for about 130ish with one
yer it is mk1 vtr so 90bhp std
erm tbh im not sure, i lost track with costs on it, it cost me more than what it should have cause i ran into numerous problems and which i had to trial and error to sort etc, i recon doing it 2nd time round i could save a good 100 to 200quid, cause i missed out on someresearch that i was completly un aware of, like how different the rallye head is to a vtr one, but rough price id say around 800 to 900, i mean the cam pully and rebuilt head cost me 400 just for them then s1inlet mani, alot of new sensors, 100 on new leads and coilpack, injectors, a complete service and other bits etc etc it all adds up quick, id say more like 900tbh, maybe more due to all the problems

have a look though may help you out with a few things

25th December 2009, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Depends how you look at it, by VTR standard it would be a good figure, but still only 120bhp which is standard VTS teritory...

yes thats a good point too, i did really think hard about what to do, i then decided id be a little diff and cam my 8v i thought it would be fun untill i ran into problems then i regreted it and wished id bought a 16v lump, but now its running im glad i cammed it

depends how you look at it tbh

25th December 2009, 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Depends how you look at it, by VTR standard it would be a good figure, but still only 120bhp which is standard VTS teritory...

yea but mk2s are 98bbhp standard iirc??
which if all done the same would out out 130 instead of 120 from the mk1?

25th December 2009, 15:54

no it doesnt work like that i dont think, you will still only see what i will tbh mate

if you think about it, you get a remap no matter what ecu you will use it will make the same power, unmapped it may vary a bit but with the same set up as mine i cant see it being any higher tbh mate

25th December 2009, 16:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

at the risk of sounding a div, i love it when an exhasut flames, like when watching rallying and u hear the car popping and banging the start flaming, flame just tops of the popping, i love it

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but yea can see why it happening all the time could be a bad thing lol..
andy what u mean yours is set up to pop and bang?

did u see the Renault GT5 Turbo in pboro flamming?
because when i did i thought the same thing

25th December 2009, 16:12

ahh rite, i get ya now, got my wires crossed lol..
waither way 120bhp vtr is a good 1 imo..

25th December 2009, 16:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoiRacer

did u see the Renault GT5 Turbo in pboro flamming?
because when i did i thought the same thing

yea seen it mate, he always at mcdonalds..
his flams all the time without fail..

25th December 2009, 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

yea seen it mate, he always at mcdonalds..
his flams all the time without fail..

i love it, looks good through town
but, he's got a flame kit on it

25th December 2009, 16:43

i thought he musta had a kit on it..
damn cheat!!!

lol

25th December 2009, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

yea but mk2s are 98bbhp standard iirc??
which if all done the same would out out 130 instead of 120 from the mk1?

Granted that yes, but for all the effort on modfying the VTR engine, you could put a Supersprint exhaust and manifold on the VTS and it would be the same, aswell as having twice the valves, and its DOHC, not SOHC.

I do respect people tuning VTR engines though, as i have one myself. But a VTS is the better baseline.

25th December 2009, 16:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Granted that yes, but for all the effort on modfying the VTR engine, you could put a Supersprint exhaust and manifold on the VTS and it would be the same, aswell as having twice the valves, and its DOHC, not SOHC.

I do respect people tuning VTR engines though, as i have one myself. But a VTS is the better baseline.

i fully agree mate, would much prefer the vts to b able to tune, but as got a vtr, thought may aswel try and make do with what got...
and whats DOHC and SOHC??
i havnt a clue

lol

25th December 2009, 17:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by stokesy

i fully agree mate, would much prefer the vts to b able to tune, but as got a vtr, thought may aswel try and make do with what got...
and whats DOHC and SOHC??
i havnt a clue

lol

DOHC = Double Over Head camshaft - So it has 2 cams

SOHC = Single Over Head Camshaft - So it only has 1

I fully understand mate, i have a VTR myself, and i have done / intend to finish off with some nice breathing modifications, but i will save and wait until a VTS is available before spending loads. But i agree mate, and i am not taking anything away from the VTR, its still a very capable car and they are used in the the likes of the SaxMax racing series

25th December 2009, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

DOHC = Double Over Head camshaft - So it has 2 cams

SOHC = Single Over Head Camshaft - So it only has 1

I fully understand mate, i have a VTR myself, and i have done / intend to finish off with some nice breathing modifications, but i will save and wait until a VTS is available before spending loads. But i agree mate, and i am not taking anything away from the VTR, its still a very capable car and they are used in the the likes of the SaxMax racing series

ahh yea i undersand now, just never heard it bwoken down into DOHC and SOHC, i feel like a fool

lol...

yea just had a butchers through your progress thread mate...
really like your car

you got it lowered yet? lol..
and love the ported adn polished tb..
they hard to swap over?
and same wityh the quickshift?