Air filter/induction kit.

1. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #1 26th December 2009, 12:42

   I've been looking around this site and also ebay at air filters for the VTR.
   
   I've been wondering, is there much of a difference between a bigger air filter, and the induction kit that goes to the front gril?
   
   I'm talking about BHP gain, sound (louder is better ) and also throttle response.
   
   Cheers,
   Tom.
2. Ben3991 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Felixstowe Posts: 328 Saxo VTR 1.6

   #2 26th December 2009, 15:27

   im not brillient with these sort of things but its defiently to better to hav a cold air feed from the front grill as cold air is dense with oxygen and therefore will burn better and possibl giv a few extra horses
3. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #3 26th December 2009, 15:31

   Loud = Open cone, Pipercross foam are probably the loudest
   
   BHP = Standard system with a panel filter and extra ducting but this makes no noise. Could also get a ProComp but there £300+
   
   Compramise = Raceland off Kam Racing for £85 or a K&N Gen2 for £160
4. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #4 26th December 2009, 16:22

   Brilliant! Cheers guys good to know
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 26th December 2009, 16:27

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by TipTopTom Brilliant! Cheers guys good to know

   So what one you going to go for mate
6. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #6 26th December 2009, 16:30

   well tbh, i was only really interested in the noise, so im thinking just open cone, but wont that actually decrease performance? Because then it'll be taking in the hot air from unter the hood?
7. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #7 26th December 2009, 16:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by TipTopTom well tbh, i was only really interested in the noise, so im thinking just open cone, but wont that actually decrease performance? Because then it'll be taking in the hot air from unter the hood?

   Get a open cone, with a heatshield and leave the standard filter intake to direct air at it, and you shouldnt lose anything imo
8. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

   #8 26th December 2009, 16:41

   Hmmm.. ..very clever! I didnt think of leaving the intake. I had bonnet grill running through my mind! Good plan! Cheers man
9. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #9 26th December 2009, 16:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by TipTopTom Hmmm.. ..very clever! I didnt think of leaving the intake. I had bonnet grill running through my mind! Good plan! Cheers man

   No problem, its what i have done and the noise is awsome and it seems to rev more freely. Definetly hasn't lost any power that's for sure
10. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #10 26th December 2009, 16:45

    Where did you get the cone from? I don't want to splash out too much...
11. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #11 26th December 2009, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TipTopTom Where did you get the cone from? I don't want to splash out too much...

    Local car part shop, try Ebay or the for sale section mate for a second hand one or there about £75 brand new.
12. wardy123 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 swansea, west glamorgan Posts: 378 saxo vtr mk1, amazon green

    #12 26th December 2009, 20:51

    i have one for sale on ebay:-
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...STRK:MESELX:IT
13. wardy123 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 swansea, west glamorgan Posts: 378 saxo vtr mk1, amazon green

    #13 26th December 2009, 20:51

    dont know if its something your looking for tho??
14. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #14 27th December 2009, 07:19

    I'm at work right now and ebay is blocked, but ill have a look later.
    
    Cheers!
15. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #15 27th December 2009, 14:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TipTopTom I'm at work right now and ebay is blocked, but ill have a look later. Cheers!

    I would reccomend you get a pipercross foam filter, not the K&N if you want the loudest. Also look for one in a little better condition if you can
16. Andy8v Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 West Yorkshire Posts: 157 2002 Silver VTR

    #16 27th December 2009, 15:01

    If you want noise then drill the standard airbox underneath and fit a k&n or Green panel filter and try improve the standard cold airfeed. Best of both worlds imo. More holes louder it will be.
17. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #17 27th December 2009, 17:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Andy8v If you want noise then drill the standard airbox underneath and fit a k&n or Green panel filter and try improve the standard cold airfeed. Best of both worlds imo. More holes louder it will be.

    I don't completely understand this. Do you mean have a pipe out of the current one with a cone on the end, but leave the induction kit in place!?
18. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #18 27th December 2009, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TipTopTom I don't completely understand this. Do you mean have a pipe out of the current one with a cone on the end, but leave the induction kit in place!?

    No, a panel filter is like the standard one that goes inside the normal black airbox, only it breathes a lot better. He means put on of them in, and drill holes in the standard airbox
19. TipTopTom Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2009 Honiton Posts: 600 1998 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #19 27th December 2009, 21:57

    Hmmm, think I'll stick to the cone. Seems easier