whats better raceland airfilter or bmc

1. ant_vts Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 Northampton Posts: 221 2000 reg mk2 saxo furio

   #1 12th January 2010, 19:42

   getting my bmc on friday and getting rid of my raceland but whats your oppion on either of these i have a 1.4 furio
2. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

   #2 12th January 2010, 23:34

   panel filter and caf for me.
3. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

   #3 12th January 2010, 23:50

   bmc hands down..
4. Davey_P Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Camberley Posts: 119 Pug 106 GTI

   #4 13th January 2010, 12:29

   i got the raceland on my furio and i love it, runs great and makes a great noise.
5. Jo3fish Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3

   #5 13th January 2010, 12:31

   Heard good reports about both, wouldnt have wasted my money if i already had the raceland one.
   
   For the sake of an airfilter.
   
   Joe
6. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #6 13th January 2010, 12:31

   BMC is stupidly expensive for it. raceland is brilliant for the money and just as good as BMC
7. DaN90 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 197 16v s1 rallye :)

   #7 13th January 2010, 15:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Aron BMC is stupidly expensive for it. raceland is brilliant for the money and just as good as BMC

   
   +1 no real bhp gains that will be worth the price tag on it.
8. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

   #8 16th January 2010, 18:23

   when i went to castle coome we had this discussion about the best induction kits, and raceland didnt fair well due to 2 of the lads having them melted and they have tiny cotton filters, also fitting issues. One lad i spoke to had to move his power steering pump so it wasnt touching his manifold.
   
   They really arent as good a bmc, for a start they're not cleanable and the major issue is the shape of them cause the air to whirl rather than going in directly, there is only 2 reasons to buy them..
   1. price
   2. look good
   But in terms of performance Id say the standard airbox is better than raceland.
9. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #9 16th January 2010, 18:25

   Would rather have the Raceland, the BMC is too expensive and people have lost BHP with it over the standard airbox.
10. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #10 16th January 2010, 18:30

    who has? for a start i cant imagine someone RRing just to see if a filter has made a bhp difference. And i doubt you would gain or lose anything at all on all of them.
11. user_16990 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 810 2001 VTS

    #11 16th January 2010, 18:32

    Never really heard anything good about the BMC. Raceland is good value for money and sounds meaty but tbh, standard airbox with a £30 panel filter will be the best option.
12. tweeqd Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320

    #12 16th January 2010, 18:40

    the BMC filter is good but to work it needs a direct cold air feed, yet 90% of the ones ive seen on here are left open in the engine bay so there is no point in fitting it
    if your going to spend on one and fit it do it right, you wouldnt pay for a £1k per hour whore just to wank in front of her
13. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #13 16th January 2010, 18:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by E3D who has? for a start i cant imagine someone RRing just to see if a filter has made a bhp difference. And i doubt you would gain or lose anything at all on all of them.

    Raunchz iirc
    
    People do alsorts while on the dyno, people have tried loads of different filters just so they can share the results.
14. sparky771 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Manchester!! Posts: 2322 2000 Furio!

    #14 16th January 2010, 18:59

    i prefer the look of the BMC if its put in nicely, and not just rammed in with shitty hoses
15. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #15 16th January 2010, 19:05

    it'll be the racland one for me and whoever said it has a tiny cotton filter, many people pay the up grade and get the green filter which is much larger, does this mean your selling the raceland one?
16. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #16 16th January 2010, 19:08

    even the upgraded filters are smaller than most aftermarket ones you buy because you cant fit ones that large under the scoop.
    well imo theres no way a cheap air filter with some plastic over it is worth replacing your standard airbox with, And the matter about bmc apparently causing bhp loss seems very unlikely imo but if true is bad news, so I say the best addice would be buy a decent panel filter for your standard box, or something like a piperx or k&n (or any large filter) with a heatshield/enclosure and put it as close as you can to the front of the car and dont use scoops or ring ended feeds they cause the air to swirl.
17. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #17 16th January 2010, 21:39

    Ide get k&n cone......
18. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #18 16th January 2010, 22:33

    i wouldnt take an RR for gospel though
    
    so long as the filter's at the front of the bay, with no heat soak, and theres a good smooth air flow to the TB, it's all that counts
19. kirtisb Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 paignton Posts: 650 Mk2 Citroen Saxo VTR

    #19 16th January 2010, 23:56

    i think the raceland is awsome,sound real sweetand also looks good and tidys up engine bay. but never had a bmc
20. user_9396 Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 torquay (England) Posts: 1993 supercharged vts. 1.1 saxo. accord type r

    #20 17th January 2010, 00:05

    the bmc is well expensive, and as said unless its got a proper feed no point, however i have a cheap apiro one from halfords and it does the same job.
21. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #21 17th January 2010, 00:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr Would rather have the Raceland, the BMC is too expensive and people have lost BHP with it over the standard airbox.

    
    What he said ^^
    
    Many poeple Have RR'd and tested and the Raceland comes up with much better results.
    
    But also as said the BMC can be good if it has a decent airfeed.
22. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #22 17th January 2010, 01:09

    both a waste of money when compared with a panel filter

    1 user thanked this post: Tufty
23. Tufty Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Watford Posts: 2033 Black Furio, Amazon Green VT-S Road Beast

    #23 17th January 2010, 15:15

    Standard air filter with a green cotton panel filter imo!
24. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #24 17th January 2010, 15:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tufty Standard air filter with a green cotton panel filter imo!

    Well the cheapest out of k&n, green or itg as they are all of equal quality
25. user_8040 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 MaDchester Posts: 8432 Vts

    #25 18th January 2010, 18:30

    apparently some clio sports have lost power due to fitting a BMC too, the raceland is better overall (performance per pound etc..) but the bmc does look nicer, tho the money is effectively wasted on looks
26. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #26 18th January 2010, 18:38

    BMC brand new £90, Ebay.. winner.