1.1 conversion help!!!

1. SaxUK L-plater Joined: Dec 2005 Cheadle, Staffs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 97 VTS

   #1 3rd March 2006, 01:03

   Hi,
   
   Thinking of having an engine conversion just wanted no wat would the easiest and best option be! Lookin at either vtr or vts conversion ideally.
   
   Cheerx
2. Bakes_vtr Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Harrogate United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1007 Civic Type R

   #2 3rd March 2006, 01:38

   get a company to do it, thats the easiest way!
   
   do a search ( brillant thing that search button ) and search for engine conversions as people ask that question a lot and im sure you will find all you need to know
3. AM4R Established Member Joined: Apr 2005 Edinburgh United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 2093 Honda Civic EK3/Astra Coupe

   #3 3rd March 2006, 01:39

   VTS
   
   Make it a sleeper!
4. SaxUK L-plater Joined: Dec 2005 Cheadle, Staffs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 97 VTS

   #4 3rd March 2006, 01:43

   how easy is it to fit! and wat exactly do i need to replace?
5. AM4R Established Member Joined: Apr 2005 Edinburgh United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 2093 Honda Civic EK3/Astra Coupe

   #5 3rd March 2006, 01:45

   Probably quite hard to fit mate. Get a few quotes of companies to see what they charge. Be careful though don't use someone who hasn't got a good rep and check out their past work if you can.
6. Bakes_vtr Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Harrogate United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1007 Civic Type R

   #6 3rd March 2006, 01:51

   you will need bigger brakes for a start, its a big jump from a 1.1 to a vts, there beasts!
   
   you will also need ecu etc and i think there like 1500 + of something to get one sorced and fitted, but i could be wrong ...
7. SaxUK L-plater Joined: Dec 2005 Cheadle, Staffs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 97 VTS

   #7 3rd March 2006, 02:17

   thanks for the help peeps! Would fittin a vtr engine be any easier?
8. Bakes_vtr Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Harrogate United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1007 Civic Type R

   #8 3rd March 2006, 02:25

   nope, be there same difficulty
9. Bakes_vtr Established Member Joined: Nov 2005 Harrogate United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1007 Civic Type R

   #9 3rd March 2006, 02:29

   but remember about insurance, it will be more to insure a saxo with a conversion than with a standard vtr/s
10. JayWard Established Member Joined: Mar 2004 Norton Canes, Cannock Posts: 1425 Pug 307 HDI 110

    #10 3rd March 2006, 02:43

    it doesnt cost that much for an ecu! if you get one with the engine and get it unlocked etc if the imobiliser blocks itself cost me £200!
    engine didnt cost me too much either! its not hard to do urself just make sure you have spare cash for things cuz thats why mine took so long..ran out of money cuz i thought i had everything! seriosuly though not as hard as people are making out mate! i did a vtr conversion on my 1.0!
11. citroenaxgtr Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 swansea United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 895 citroen ax vtr

    #11 3rd March 2006, 17:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JayWard it doesnt cost that much for an ecu! if you get one with the engine and get it unlocked etc if the imobiliser blocks itself cost me £200! engine didnt cost me too much either! its not hard to do urself just make sure you have spare cash for things cuz thats why mine took so long..ran out of money cuz i thought i had everything! seriosuly though not as hard as people are making out mate! i did a vtr conversion on my 1.0!

    he`s right you know!.. its not as hard as people make out!.. just make sure you have all the parts and tools and you are on your way!.. in a garage would be best to do this incase it rains!... not good!.
    most people whoi take it to a garage are either: thick, rich, or daddys boys!. DIY and make yourself proud!.
12. SaxUK L-plater Joined: Dec 2005 Cheadle, Staffs United Kingdom (England) Posts: 97 VTS

    #12 3rd March 2006, 23:44

    yeah think might give it a shot just got me car back from the bodyshop today! just had the first step done fittin the vt bodykit and its lookin sweet! how much are you lookin at payin for the garage to do the conversion as i havnt got much knowlege on engines!
13. citroenaxgtr Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2006 swansea United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 895 citroen ax vtr

    #13 4th March 2006, 01:26

    it depends what garage you take it to!. could cost between 150 for a good garage to 4 to 500 or more..
    i can remember the head gasket blew on my rover and to have a garage to do it would cost about 500 quid or more.. so i did it myself.. only thing that cost me was getting the head skimmed!.
14. Dave_J Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2003 Co. Durham Posts: 235

    #14 4th March 2006, 17:35

    fitting is really easy anyone could do it.
    
    just make sure if you have a mk1 car you get a mk1 engine same for mk2 etc
    
    if possible just stick to buying everything from 1 particular car. If you start getting bits and pieces from different cars you might lose track of things.
    
    The bracket that holds your alternator to the engine block was different from my 1.1 engine so i had to source a vts bracket
    
    VTS/R drivers side engine mounting is different. They have a metal housing which the mount sits in. The 1.1 dont have the housing so you cant use VTS mounting. However, although the engines rocks about a bit mine is still OK but i recommend you sort it out
    
    You WILL need bigger brakes. I didnt fit them straight away and i almost totalled my car on day 1 after conversion cause 1.1 brakes cant handle power
    
    I was advised to change to a VTR/S fuel pump to
    
    think that covers all faults/problems i had
    
    sorry bit long winded
15. gafvts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2005 hull Posts: 2566 supercharged saxo vts

    #15 4th March 2006, 19:19

    my vts conversion cost me about £1000 i think,that was to get engine and fit it,quite cheap mate,but i would get the vts