Important! : Diff Question

1. jinx Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Staffordshire Posts: 745 Saxo - Furio 1.4

   #1 15th January 2010, 13:05

   Hi, i was in the snow yesterday and like usual the car got stuck, i noticed the drivers side wheel only span a bit then stopped as the passengers wheel continued to spin.
   
   Now is it meant to do that as i thought that the drivers wheel would have span as it seemed to have more traction. or is it a drive shaft or gearbox problem?
   
   Thank You
2. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #2 15th January 2010, 13:43

   That is normal. The car has a open diff
3. johnnyg_vts Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Fleetwood Posts: 2244 2002 Saxo VTS

   #3 15th January 2010, 14:42

   you are thinking of an lsd, this is not standard fit on a saxo.
   desirable and expensive lol
4. spudders Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 shrewsbury Posts: 476 306 dturbo x2 saxo vtr

   #4 15th January 2010, 18:25

   eny ideas where it might be posibel to get a lsd for a vtr??? i got one in my 306 dturb the diffrence its made is unreal i think my vtr could defanately do with the same treatment...
5. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #5 15th January 2010, 18:27

   quaife
6. Tufty Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Watford Posts: 2033 Black Furio, Amazon Green VT-S Road Beast

   #6 15th January 2010, 18:40

   Heres an add on!! When purchasing a quiafe dif, are there any further add ons you need to purchase or is it just open the box open and refurb etc?? I dont even know where it goes tbh (just around the gear box)
7. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #7 15th January 2010, 19:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tufty Heres an add on!! When purchasing a quiafe dif, are there any further add ons you need to purchase or is it just open the box open and refurb etc?? I dont even know where it goes tbh (just around the gear box)

   It's a full box apart job. Whilst you've got it apart, worth upgrading the input shaft bearing as the standard one can melt when the cars used at high rpm for a while (its got a plastic middle) - uprated one is metal.
   
   Then you need to get the crownwhel switched over from the standard diff onto the quaife, quaife can do this for you.
   
   Then put it all back together.
   
   Whislt it's apart worth checking the wear on the synchro's and replace the seals and maybe the other bearings. Good time to replace the synchro rings if need be, and refurb the synchros with new springs, bearings and sliders.
   
   I'm going to be putting a quaife in my S1 box asap - waiting on the diff to come now from rallydesign, then it's go go go !! Then will get it on and sell my S2 box.
8. Tufty Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Watford Posts: 2033 Black Furio, Amazon Green VT-S Road Beast

   #8 15th January 2010, 19:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz It's a full box apart job. Whilst you've got it apart, worth upgrading the input shaft bearing as the standard one can melt when the cars used at high rpm for a while (its got a plastic middle) - uprated one is metal. Then you need to get the crownwhel switched over from the standard diff onto the quaife, quaife can do this for you. Then put it all back together. Whislt it's apart worth checking the wear on the synchro's and replace the seals and maybe the other bearings. Good time to replace the synchro rings if need be, and refurb the synchros with new springs, bearings and sliders. I'm going to be putting a quaife in my S1 box asap - waiting on the diff to come now from rallydesign, then it's go go go !! Then will get it on and sell my S2 box.

   That sounds sex man!! Get me that S1 box!! lol. Get it rebuilt with one of those bad boys in it and itl be good for some track action
9. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #9 15th January 2010, 19:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Tufty That sounds sex man!! Get me that S1 box!! lol. Get it rebuilt with one of those bad boys in it and itl be good for some track action

   I literally can't wait to get the diff in, and onto the car to try it out !!
   
   The other S1 is 99.9% coming my way !! Might be able to pick it up sooner but will keep you informed !
10. Tufty Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Watford Posts: 2033 Black Furio, Amazon Green VT-S Road Beast

    #10 15th January 2010, 19:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz I literally can't wait to get the diff in, and onto the car to try it out !! The other S1 is 99.9% coming my way !! Might be able to pick it up sooner but will keep you informed !

    Sweet as mate!!
11. webby Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 manchester Posts: 2456

    #11 16th January 2010, 09:50

    Gripper also do diffs for the ma boxes but that is as much as i know on the matter
12. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #12 16th January 2010, 10:00

    I'm happy to be corrected here:
    
    I think the gripper diffs need to setup, preloaded and backlash? So you want to make sure someone who knows their stuff to set the diff up. Also they are a plate diff so will need the plate changing at sone point in their life, I'm not sure on rough mileage figures -I suppose it'd depend on the aggresivness of the driving it was subject to. They are an LSD
    
    The quaifes are an ATB, have a lifetime guarantee and don't have parts that wear out per se as they use gears to work. Good bit about them on the quaife website for anyone that's interested