Been through flood.

1. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

   #1 17th January 2010, 12:13

   Hey.
   
   Yesterday i went through a flood and car stopped. Was pulled out and now have the car back at home.
   
   It struggles to get going, but after several turns of the ignition and abit of waiting (30secs) i got it going. Although it didn't sound very healthy. (Very chokey)
   
   I checked oil level and its about an inch above the MAX (Water got in?)
   
   I don't know if i should change the oil myself, and try and fix it myself, Or whether im better off just getting it to a garage.
   
   I don't really know what could be the extent of the damage.
   
   The car was probably only running for about 60seconds before i turned it off again, as i didn't want water getting into the engine from the oil.
   
   Need some advice
   
   thanks
2. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #2 17th January 2010, 12:17

   If the engines fucked, its fucked. Drain the oil out, put new cheap gear in and try running it. Chances are if it got that flooded then its maybe sooked in a bit of water. Once youve changed the oil, do a compression test and see if anythings untoward.
3. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

   #3 17th January 2010, 13:11

   Ok thanks for advice.
   
   Not sure i could do that myself, but ill ask some mates see if they'd know how to.
   
   And if i did take it to a garage, and thats all that would need doing, know the rough estimate of cost?
4. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #4 17th January 2010, 13:35

   where are you from?
   Water in the oil is very bad. Especially if there is a ltr of water mixed in. I would be concerned if any water got sucked in through the throttle body into the engine.
   Chances are you have damaged some of the electrics or knocked a plug off
5. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

   #5 17th January 2010, 13:39

   From suffolk, uk.
   
   And alright, ill just get it into a garage tomorow and see the likely cost of the repair.
   
   Although if its likely to be near to the value of the car, then idk :/
6. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #6 17th January 2010, 13:42

   well really lots of water in the engine is game over
7. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

   #7 17th January 2010, 14:03

   Ok well there shouldnt be too much water in the engine.
8. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #8 17th January 2010, 15:05

   well if its showing an inch up the dipstick then there is loads in the engine. Just do not start it
9. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

   #9 17th January 2010, 15:23

   Yeah, might be more than an Inch but theres alot in there ;/.
   
   The recovery guy also unscrewed the cap to the engine, and said the creamy color of the oil shows waters got in and mixed with it.
   
   Looks like i might have to sell it off as scrap then.
10. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #10 17th January 2010, 15:26

    well an engine is very cheap to pick up
    just get it drained and flushed and see what happens
11. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #11 17th January 2010, 16:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom well an engine is very cheap to pick up just get it drained and flushed and see what happens

    Really? How much for a new engine (ish)? (I have a 1.1 forte petrol)
    
    And yeah, ill get it assessed tomorow and see what happens.
12. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #12 17th January 2010, 16:24

    theres a few on ebay for various prices.
13. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #13 17th January 2010, 16:25

    I don't mean a 'new' engine btw, just a working engine. (incase i mislead)
14. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #14 17th January 2010, 16:25

    Dam, annoying a cant edit my posts.
    
    And thanks, ill take a look on ebay now.
15. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #15 17th January 2010, 16:26

    used 1.1 engine on here would be between £30-70
16. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #16 17th January 2010, 16:32

    if your feeling adventurous, a vtr 1.6 engine sells for bloody cheap these days. im sure people on here would be willing to change your engine
17. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #17 17th January 2010, 16:33

    That's awesome!
    
    I thought it would be like £500+
    
    Labor to fit an engine would be a far amount though.
    
    Thanks for help so far! Really apprechiate it.
    
    And yeah, i was just thinking i could upgrade slightly LSO.
    
    I'll need 100 posts to get into the market section.
18. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #18 17th January 2010, 16:35

    i charge £250 to fit an engine. do it in a day drive in drive out job. you can buy premium membership to access for sale section.
    Alot of vtr engines sell well under £100
19. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #19 17th January 2010, 16:39

    A VTR / VTS would put my insurance up alot though?
    
    For the £250 jobs, how far away would you be happy to drive to the place?
20. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #20 17th January 2010, 16:44

    £250 in my garage but I'm willing to travel if all expenses are paid or i can put you in touch with Ross or Ben who may be will to do it for you

    1 user thanked this post: george0123
21. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #21 17th January 2010, 16:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by desir0 A VTR / VTS would put my insurance up alot though? For the £250 jobs, how far away would you be happy to drive to the place?

    Ask your insurers!
    
    And where in Suffolk do you live?
22. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #22 17th January 2010, 16:46

    Sounds a good service, But i live like 2-3hours from you.
    
    I think i'll buy premium later today and see what more i can find out.
23. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #23 17th January 2010, 16:46

    a vtr engine wont be a great deal to insure if you have ncb and driving experience
24. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #24 17th January 2010, 16:46

    And Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk.
25. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #25 17th January 2010, 16:47

    Took me and hour and half to get to Tom's. Easy drive too if you dont mind the big A and M roads
    
    edit:
    
    you out in bury much?
26. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #26 17th January 2010, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by desir0 Sounds a good service, But i live like 2-3hours from you. I think i'll buy premium later today and see what more i can find out.

    Cover fuel costs both ways and i dont have an issue.
    
    Or PM Raunchz (Ross) or TU-Tuning(Ben)
27. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #27 17th January 2010, 16:47

    I don't really have driving experience. Im 17, Had liscense 6 months.
28. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #28 17th January 2010, 16:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom Cover fuel costs both ways and i dont have an issue. Or PM Raunchz (Ross) or TU-Tuning(Ben)

    
    Ok, Well im going to pay like £50 for an assessment tomorow anyway. And if they either say i need a new engine, or that they'll charge me a few hundred in costs to fix the existing engine. Ill just get a new engine in.
    
    Once i've done that ill PM you three and find out exact costs and details
29. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #29 17th January 2010, 16:50

    oh right 1.1 or 1.4 is your best option then
30. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #30 17th January 2010, 16:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chr15 Took me and hour and half to get to Tom's. Easy drive too if you dont mind the big A and M roads edit: you out in bury much?

    Im out in bury abit.
    
    Won't be for a little while now though .
31. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #31 17th January 2010, 16:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom £250 in my garage but I'm willing to travel if all expenses are paid or i can put you in touch with Ross or Ben who may be will to do it for you

    Hello
32. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #32 17th January 2010, 16:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom oh right 1.1 or 1.4 is your best option then

    Yeah ill get whatever is available and looks most suitable.
33. user_27192 Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2008 Suffolk Posts: 11590 ITB'd Saxo VTS & Mazda 6 MPS

    #33 17th January 2010, 16:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by desir0 Im out in bury abit. Won't be for a little while now though .

    im out sometimes. dont know what your car looks like though!
34. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #34 17th January 2010, 16:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chr15 im out sometimes. dont know what your car looks like though!

    Silver 1.1 forte standard. Ill post pics on that big thread when this is all sorted!
    
    
    And Hey raunchz!.
    
    Looks like your even further from me that Tom.
35. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #35 17th January 2010, 16:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz Hello

    Just the man
36. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #36 17th January 2010, 16:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by desir0 Silver 1.1 forte standard. Ill post pics on that big thread when this is all sorted! And Hey raunchz!. Looks like your even further from me that Tom.

    Ah well maybe try Ben then
37. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #37 17th January 2010, 17:13

    This is the ben you mean? :
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/member.php?u=34525
38. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #38 17th January 2010, 17:14

    Nope this one
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/member.php?u=9919
39. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #39 17th January 2010, 17:23

    thanks
40. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #40 17th January 2010, 17:25

    no worries mate
41. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #41 18th January 2010, 12:36

    Quick update:
    
    Took it to a guy, He says one of the rods / valves in the engine has been bent/snapped. Said it'll need a new engine.
    
    Also, he noticed the dash board rev counter isn't working. That an easy fix?
    
    Im awaiting a quote from him for a new engine installation, and will see what he says.
42. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #42 18th January 2010, 12:48

    Thats not good news The rev counter could be a knocked plug or something
43. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #43 18th January 2010, 13:14

    Yeah i know, But i was kind of expecting it :/.
    
    When the car had was working well, it was worth just over £1,000. Think it's worth getting it fixed and be done with, or possibly getting a new saxo?
44. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #44 18th January 2010, 13:18

    depends if you can get an engine and it fitted all for a good price
45. desir0 L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 Nr Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk Posts: 69 Saxo 1.1 Forte

    #45 18th January 2010, 13:21

    Will probably somewhere around £500 for everything.
46. karlh944 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 wisbech Posts: 1627 seat ibiza track car

    #46 17th January 2011, 22:45

    where about u from im in woolpit every weekend? could have a look?
    
    
    edit: didnt see the date sorry