VTR to 1.4 8v Conversion

1. jamessvts Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 13

   #1 17th January 2010, 17:04

   Hello guys a bit of a random one this but i have a mate who has just bought a vtr with a slipped cambelt and he has been offered a 1.4 westcoast engine on a low mileage for a very reasonable price. he is not bothered about speed/performance, just a car to get him to work and back and general running around... the question is, do the ecu's match up and the loom as well? had a quick look on the search but couldn't find anything.. if any of you could help it would be much appreciated
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 17th January 2010, 17:06

   need the ecu for the enigne and the loom, vtr engines are pennies would be seriousely backward and much more fuck on to downgrade
3. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #3 17th January 2010, 17:09

   he could get a vtr engine for between 50-100 which would be soo much easier and make more sense
4. jamessvts Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 13

   #4 17th January 2010, 17:10

   thats what i thought mate.. cheers for the quick reply anyway il have to try and get him to dig a little deeper into his pockets lol
5. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #5 17th January 2010, 17:10

   vtr engines are cheap as fuck these days can get a bare one for sub £100 easy would a be a straight old engine out new engine in 1/2 day job then
6. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #6 17th January 2010, 17:12

   check flee bay and local scrappies can get decent lieage for 50 quid, or even still get yourselves a haynes and a spare head(just as common) and get some learning in, be good for you
7. jamessvts Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 13

   #7 17th January 2010, 17:22

   im a mechanic anyway mate so replacing a head is no problem, iv done many saxo vtr/vts conversions before just looking for the easiest and quickest way to do it and the lad who wants it done has a young family so is trying to watch the pennys lol. the 1.4 hes been offered is only 40quid and done 57,000 miles, just had a rear ender... so thought i would ask the question before he turned it down
8. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #8 17th January 2010, 17:23

   well in that case take the engine loom and ecu, dont forget to unlock the ecu so it can be fitted
9. jamessvts Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 13

   #9 17th January 2010, 17:26

   unlock is first on the list, bad experiences with locking saxo ecu's in the past lol
10. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #10 17th January 2010, 17:27

    good man well for the miles and price 1.4 wont be such a bad option
11. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #11 17th January 2010, 17:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamessvts im a mechanic anyway mate so replacing a head is no problem, iv done many saxo vtr/vts conversions before just looking for the easiest and quickest way to do it and the lad who wants it done has a young family so is trying to watch the pennys lol. the 1.4 hes been offered is only 40quid and done 57,000 miles, just had a rear ender... so thought i would ask the question before he turned it down

    sureley a mechanic would know a 1.4 is completley diff engine to a 1.6 hence needing a diff ecu? if not id be scared for you to work on my car, but as said take the loom ecu and engine although im sure you could get a vtr lump for £40 if you looked
12. jamessvts Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 13

    #12 17th January 2010, 17:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 sureley a mechanic would know a 1.4 is completley diff engine to a 1.6 hence needing a diff ecu? if not id be scared for you to work on my car, but as said take the loom ecu and engine although im sure you could get a vtr lump for £40 if you looked

    i know they are different lol.. i only asked the question as they are similar engines and i wasnt 100%.. always better to ask if your not sure.. and now i know . so thanks guys for your help. much appreciated.
13. user_25842 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 canterbury Posts: 174 2000 saxo vts

    #13 17th January 2010, 22:36

    why would u put a 1.4 in a 1.6, thats riddiculous
14. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #14 17th January 2010, 22:38

    well not everyone is power hunting. This guys is looking for cheap, reliable run around for him and his young family. There is nothing wrong in that
15. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #15 17th January 2010, 22:57

    makes sense to me as a family man myself but in the amount of work thats reqiuered wouldn't it be easier to get a vtr lump as it will work out cheaper in the long run and be far less hastle mate
16. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #16 17th January 2010, 22:59

    TBH there really isnt any more hassle in fitting a 1.4 than a 1.6