6000K HIDs

1. big_mike_vts Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 16

   #1 18th January 2010, 21:10

   Ive been after a HID for about 2 months now and after some time searching and with no real luck ive decided to start a thread.
   
   Its for people to put up pics of their HIDs. Including the price, were you bought them from and what temp they are. Hopefully a lot of people will post on here as a means of helping others.
   
   Thanks
2. user_40784 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2010 London Posts: 2768

   #2 19th January 2010, 19:03

   It would be interesting to see the beam pattern for saxo's with HIDs
3. stowell Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Hull Posts: 125 1999 Citroen Saxo 1.1 Eastcoast

   #3 19th January 2010, 19:47

   i bought some hid's for mine, nmine were 8000k and i only payed 45 quid for um, h4 hi/lows they were..only just become a member tho so i dont have any pics up yet
4. user_26907 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Tha Durrty Saaf Posts: 2095 BMX

   #4 19th January 2010, 19:57

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   Originally Posted by johnr32 It would be interesting to see the beam pattern for saxo's with HIDs

   not really no, as if anyone cares about an illegal beam pattern when half the chavs on here have decats and void insurance ect.
5. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #5 19th January 2010, 20:25

   6000k HIDs from http://www.xenonshop.co.uk/
   
   i organized a group buy with them ages ago and were about 65 iirc with free led sidelights
   
   High beam
   
   
   
   Low Beam
   
   
6. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #6 19th January 2010, 20:37

   I got mine from www.hids-direct.co.uk and can't fault them tbh. I went for 6000k as this is similar to what new cars come with like Audi's etc and doesn't look too blue. Any more 'k' and you'll be lucky not to get pulled tbh as they will look too blue imo.
   
   The 6000k's still have a hint of blue as can be seen below but are more bright white tbh, all depends on what angle you are looking at them. Make sure you go for hi/lo beam aswell
   
   
   
   
7. Powellyboi Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Woodley, Reading Posts: 1322 www.thatpanelbeater.co.uk

   #7 19th January 2010, 21:15

   35w or 50w?? im confused...
8. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #8 20th January 2010, 07:23

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   Originally Posted by Powellyboi 35w or 50w?? im confused...

   Hids are measured in K
   
   normal bulbs in w, not sure what you wanna know??
9. hammy105 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 High Wycombe / Portsmouth / Canterbury Posts: 703 Mk1 Vtr & Mk2 Vtr

   #9 20th January 2010, 08:25

   yer you canget 2differentpower types, ive got 35w and cant fault them what so ever
10. luke1988 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1993 SuperSaxo

    #10 20th January 2010, 08:34

    i've got 35w too, don't think it really matters...
    
    the 'k' is kelvin, which is the temperature that the bulb emits (i think)...so the higher the value the brighter they glow, hence why 8000k and 10000k bulbs are more blue.
    
    i have UV protected 6000k H1 bulbs for my angels so they shouldn't melt the plastic
11. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #11 20th January 2010, 13:10

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    Originally Posted by luke1988 i've got 35w too, don't think it really matters... the 'k' is kelvin, which is the temperature that the bulb emits (i think)...so the higher the value the brighter they glow, hence why 8000k and 10000k bulbs are more blue. i have UV protected 6000k H1 bulbs for my angels so they shouldn't melt the plastic

    You have got it mixed up. The “K” number has nothing really directly to do with how bright a bulbs is. The “K” is just the colour temperature as in what colour the lights is.
    
    
    
    Even though I said the “K” number had nothing directly to do with how bright it is a bulb is it still can do. These bulbs work by a mix of gasses inside them. To change the colour the change the mix of gas. The lower the “K” generally the brighter the bulbs. For example generally a 3000K bulbs would be brighter than a 4000K bulb and the 4000K bulbs would be brighter than a 6000k bulbs and so on.
    
    Though all these HID bulbs that just replace your halogen bulbs are NOT to British standards and are all illegal to use on the road. This is the UK Governments Department For Transport fact sheet on it http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps Even if you don't have a lot of respect for the law and lets face it a lot of people don't its probably also worth thinking about insurance http://hid.moonfruit.com/#/insurance/4529652056
12. Veets L-plater Joined: Jul 2009 Doncaster Posts: 91 1st car Fiat Punto 60s Mk1 2nd car Saxo vtr mk2

    #12 20th January 2010, 16:37

    so when it comes to mot time do u have to take them out ?
13. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #13 20th January 2010, 17:09

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    Originally Posted by Veets so when it comes to mot time do u have to take them out ?

    Depends on what colour bulbs you go for, if your able to adjust the beam to get within the test spec, how on the ball your tester is and a few other things. Many have failed and many have passed with them. Even if you pass a MOT though it does NOT make them road legal.
14. Veets L-plater Joined: Jul 2009 Doncaster Posts: 91 1st car Fiat Punto 60s Mk1 2nd car Saxo vtr mk2

    #14 20th January 2010, 17:28

    so their not legal ? im lost ere , whats legal and what int, and how would i be able to adjust or not adjust?
    
    iv seen ppl on ere talkin about 6000k high low 1s
    
    are they legal then
15. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

    #15 20th January 2010, 17:43

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    Originally Posted by Veets so their not legal ? im lost ere , whats legal and what int, and how would i be able to adjust or not adjust? iv seen ppl on ere talkin about 6000k high low 1s are they legal then

    British law requires headlights to be approved. Its a safety measure to ensure that specific safety critical parts of a vehicle are safe. Other parts that require such approval are seat belts, tyres, reflects, airbags and so on. This ensures a car complies with a basic safety standard.
    
    The HID bulbs that fit in place of approved halogen bulbs to not comply with even the most basic of the requirements to be allowed to be used on British roads as headlights. What you get on modern cars with HID lights are very different. Most of the claims of sellers are simple cleverly worded misleading statements added purely to confuse you. Though some take it one step further and just lie. I seen one the other day that was selling such bulbs as “DOT” approved to trick you in to thinking there legal where this was proven in court to be a impossibility.
    
    The only way you could legally use HID is as per the recommendations on the UK Governments Department For Transport website. This is to actual use approved parts normally from other cars that came with HIDs. These would use a ECE approved D2 type HID bulb and have a ECE 98 approved headlight housing that would have a native fit to the specific model D2 bulb being fitted along with other requirements.
    
    Most people just don't give a dam about the law. Just look at the roads and the number of people driving about with there fog lights on all the time or speeding. Hence why so many people are also happy to fit none road legal lights. Just be aware of the law and then it's up to you if you wish to comply or not.
16. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #16 20th January 2010, 17:46

    hi lo is just a high beam and a low beam when you pull the stalk
    
    there not legal but you can get away with them, ive not been pulled due to the fact there 6000 ones, any more and you will be pulled
    
    id say 4300, 5000 and 6000 youll get away with
    
    oh and please quit the text talk
17. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #17 20th January 2010, 17:47

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    Originally Posted by JRC1 I got mine from www.hids-direct.co.uk and can't fault them tbh. I went for 6000k as this is similar to what new cars come with like Audi's etc and doesn't look too blue. Any more 'k' and you'll be lucky not to get pulled tbh as they will look too blue imo. The 6000k's still have a hint of blue as can be seen below but are more bright white tbh, all depends on what angle you are looking at them. Make sure you go for hi/lo beam aswell

    those 6000K look nice cos in the bottom pic they still have quite a lot of blue, but its so hard to tell what it looks like in real life compared to the camera i love your car. we should do a photoshoot, white and black and black and white

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18. Veets L-plater Joined: Jul 2009 Doncaster Posts: 91 1st car Fiat Punto 60s Mk1 2nd car Saxo vtr mk2

    #18 20th January 2010, 21:37

    txt talk haha ok mate
19. matt-391-vtr Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Bedford Posts: 259 03 vtr

    #19 3rd March 2010, 23:40

    i have 8000k hi/low from www.convert2xenon.com
    Never been pulled and passed MOT with them!
    In your bottom picture they look like 8000k not 6000k lol
20. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

    #20 3rd March 2010, 23:43

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    Originally Posted by matt-391-vtr i have 8000k hi/low from www.convert2xenon.com Never been pulled and passed MOT with them! In your bottom picture they look like 8000k not 6000k lol

    Just the angle mate, they only have a tint of blue, mainly look bright white
21. Morgan_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Bristol/Bucks Posts: 2931 N3CNM 8v y0¬!

    #21 3rd March 2010, 23:54

    JRC1 mate they look gorgeous, I must admit they do llook like 8000k in the bottom pic!
    
    Very useful thread. I knew they were totally illegal without remote sensors (as all the new cars have these) but to be honest I still feel blinded by their lights when I drive at night, especially the 4x4s whom have about 3 foot on a saxo anyway - which equates to our vision lines. Also standard visibility of saxo headlights isnt the most brilliant - hence why I have decided to go for HIDs.
    
    Axracing you bloody well know your stuff... *repped* and nice one for sharing. I think it would be immensely harsh if ones insurance was null and void due to this though.... unless they are recklessly scattered, and clearly a danger to all other road users.
22. adam19 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Harlow, essex Posts: 2731 Clio 182

    #22 3rd March 2010, 23:55

    i ordered 6000k on friday and just waiting for them to arrive . and by the look off them. they look really nice not toot blue