whats the best uprated front shocks to use?

1. ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 newbury Posts: 159 1.1 saxo desire

   #1 24th January 2010, 22:13

   i got a set of raceland coilovers off ebay cos they said they went down 120mm but the shocks that come with them are way to soft and they bottom out everywhere. i read on here somewhere that if i use uprated shocks then it would stop this from happening but i dunno what shocks to use any help? cheers
2. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

   #2 24th January 2010, 22:21

   If you're trying to go down 120mm (which the racelands wont) then its more likely to be your wishbones and anti roll bar smashing on your shell rather than the shocks/dampers banging
   
   That aside even at a 'sensible height' the racelands are the poorest quality out there
3. trackjace Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 533

   #3 24th January 2010, 22:27

   120mm is just silly imo!Will make handling worse
4. ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 newbury Posts: 159 1.1 saxo desire

   #4 24th January 2010, 22:29

   ok thanks for that but my question was what are the best shocks to use lol any way who wants sensible ride you want it as low as possible looks so much cooler!
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 24th January 2010, 22:29

   will make it un driveable imo, but yeah racelands are shit, and the best are mega expensive
6. ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 newbury Posts: 159 1.1 saxo desire

   #6 24th January 2010, 22:32

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by trackjace 120mm is just silly imo!Will make handling worse

   i dont want handling i have a 1.1 lol i want it for looks the lower the better what is it with everyone on here answering questions that arent even been asked lol
7. trackjace Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 533

   #7 24th January 2010, 22:34

   Sorry i didn't mean to piss you off.My fault.Bilstein ftw though
8. ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 newbury Posts: 159 1.1 saxo desire

   #8 24th January 2010, 22:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 will make it un driveable imo, but yeah racelands are shit, and the best are mega expensive

   it drives fine just bottoms out over ever pot hole or bump in the road so it doesnt make it undriveable.
9. ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 newbury Posts: 159 1.1 saxo desire

   #9 24th January 2010, 22:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by trackjace Sorry i didn't mean to piss you off.My fault.Bilstein ftw though

   its ok its just everytime i ask a question on here i get everyones opinon on things rather than answers lol cheers mate what bilstens though cos i have looked and there are quite a few different types?
10. trackjace Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 533

    #10 24th January 2010, 22:42

    Sorry yep i know what you mean!Didn't mean too but i agree this site has got worse!
    
    Ergh have a look on the kam racing website mate!I haven't got them myself yet but just know you can't really go wrong with them!
11. ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 newbury Posts: 159 1.1 saxo desire

    #11 24th January 2010, 22:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by trackjace Sorry yep i know what you mean!Didn't mean too but i agree this site has got worse! Ergh have a look on the kam racing website mate!I haven't got them myself yet but just know you can't really go wrong with them!

    ok cheers for that mate ill have a look on there!
12. trackjace Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 533

    #12 24th January 2010, 22:58

    No probs.Sorry im not much help!
13. saxo_furio2000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Portsmouth Posts: 556 Integra DC5 supercharged

    #13 24th January 2010, 23:01

    imo bilstein b8s with faulkner 155Ib springs
14. trackjace Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 533

    #14 24th January 2010, 23:06

    cant go wrong with what saxo furio said tbh
15. hammy105 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 High Wycombe / Portsmouth / Canterbury Posts: 703 Mk1 Vtr & Mk2 Vtr

    #15 24th January 2010, 23:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_furio2000 imo bilstein b8s with faulkner 155Ib springs

    yer as said above its a very good shock, but id personally run a slightly firmer spring.
16. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #16 24th January 2010, 23:44

    120 on the front is NOT possible
    
    tbh shocks arent the issue
    its the springs are too soft
    then shocks wont be of any use on harder springs though
    i would look at something like a 200lb spring and some pugsport dampers as billies wont go through the raceland collar
    
    and as willsy said past about 95mm the wishbones and arb clash the shell so past that is not doable
17. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #17 25th January 2010, 00:47

    Isnt it nearer to 80mm where they touch? Either way like Alex says you ideally need much stiffer springs. The only good part about that raceland kit is the 2 C spanners you get with it
18. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #18 25th January 2010, 17:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy what is it with everyone on here answering questions that arent even been asked lol

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ccciiiiinnnnnnddddyyyy its ok its just everytime i ask a question on here i get everyones opinon on things rather than answers lol

    The people who are answering are people who know exactly what they are talking about and are trying to advise you
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB 120 on the front is NOT possible tbh shocks arent the issue its the springs are too soft then shocks wont be of any use on harder springs though i would look at something like a 200lb spring and some pugsport dampers as billies wont go through the raceland collar and as willsy said past about 95mm the wishbones and arb clash the shell so past that is not doable

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom Isnt it nearer to 80mm where they touch? Either way like Alex says you ideally need much stiffer springs. The only good part about that raceland kit is the 2 C spanners you get with it

    As i, Alex and Tom have said who all do and have done alot of suspension work and have seen all mannor of heights and kits if your car is that low that the wishbones are sitting on the shell:
    
    1. Its an instant MOT failure
    2. Itll be dangerous to drive and not just poor ride quality
    
    And also you will not get a damper/shock that can cope with that sort of height without bottoming out, whatever you get it WILL have to be modified by at least shortening them.
    
    Advice has been given, its upto you if you want to try and do it anyway
19. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #19 25th January 2010, 18:07

    I am not sure any off the shelf shortened damper is designed to go that low either. You will have a car that sits on the bumpstops and has no damper movement.
20. D-Star Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2007 RG** Thatcham... Berks Posts: 364 Saxo Vtr Gold...

    #20 25th January 2010, 19:58

    racelands are shit ciiiinnndddyyyy! lol