turbo in saxo vtr

25th January 2010, 14:28

hi was just wondering if you can put a turbo into a saxo vtr 6v or if you have to change it to a 16v ?

25th January 2010, 14:32

theres a few people on here that have turboed vtr's

25th January 2010, 14:47

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Originally Posted by samueljonburgess

theres a few people on here that have turboed vtr's

is that with a 8v ?

25th January 2010, 14:54

Yes there are more 8V turbo than 16V turbos floating about.

25th January 2010, 14:59

what a stupid post really most cars can have a turbo fitted to them the fact its 8v or 16v makes no diffrence at all

25th January 2010, 18:22

Yes and no

25th January 2010, 18:25

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppp turbo enit lulz

You can turbo anything providing you have the money or know-how

25th January 2010, 18:30

which would be better at the quarter mile turbo'd? VTS or VTR because i find that the vts doesnt accelerate as the vtr only revs higher

25th January 2010, 18:35

what are you on about lol
depends what boost they are running, suspension setups, tyres, gearboxes etc.

25th January 2010, 18:37

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Originally Posted by sparkyvtr19

which would be better at the quarter mile turbo'd? VTS or VTR because i find that the vts doesnt accelerate as the vtr only revs higher

1.1 turbo could be

25th January 2010, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom

what are you on about lol
depends what boost they are running, suspension setups, tyres, gearboxes etc.

exactly! seems there isa member on here not just myself who knows about boosted cars lols.

its pointless boosting a small block if its goin to be ran on low boost & compression.
if its on high boost in a short period of time the cyclinder head will crack or the sump will blow a hole.

brakes,suspension,antiroll bars,fuel pump,extra injector all have to be added. along with the bog standard items for a turbo i.e intercooler,oil cooler, gauges and so on!

as previously stated any car can be boosted but it will come at a price. only comparison I can honestly give is if I want ot push my R33 to 500bhp it will cost me in the region of £3,000 that gives you a clue how much it can cost you!

25th January 2010, 20:14

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25th January 2010, 22:59

I am not that clued up on boost but i know enough to get by and when not to post.

25th January 2010, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom

I am not that clued up on boost but i know enough to get by and when not to post.

well I see it as this you want a good turbo set up on a saxo then its

bigger gaskets all around
stronger head bolts and manifold bolts
iridium spark plugs
uprated clutch
gearbox and gearbox oil
engine oil
oil catch tank
oil cooler (with relocation kit)
intercooler
CryO2/water or direct port metholen injection
induction kit
Dump vavle
Wastegate
turbo itself t3/t4?
Turbo manifold
Heat wrap
De cat pipe
uprated sump
extra injector
injector timer
Stand alone Ecu
Wider back box
Actuator
Electric boost controller
Gauges to check on oil pressure,exhaust temp,boost etc etc
bigger brakes (4 pot or 6 pot)
uprated antirollbars
Coil overs
bigger radiator for more coolant (and different coolant red or green)
uprated pistons and rods
uprated cam & cam pullie or pullies
uprated cambelt
uprated fuel pump
uprated coil pack (if the standard one is not up to the job)

oh and you might find out the driveshafts might not be able ot take it so its either uprated ones or custom made ones

then after all that you need the timing done and have it properly tuned correctly and Dyno'd

like me say to do it properly it aint cheap haha.

25th January 2010, 23:26

I counted 5grand on that list

25th January 2010, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom

I counted 5grand on that list

id say more in fact as I did not mention braided brake lines or clutch line either lols.

people tend to think its straight forward to turbo a car. it aint as it costs a fortune to do it spot on. if the person takes short cuts then its eitehr the engine will run to lean resulting in the pistons been flubberd, temp pressure goin up and up, end up with a hole in the sump and oil everywhere,head gasket goin (need the head reskimming). list is endless if we are been honest with our selfs!

and all that in a saxo 8v HMM so whats that about 180bhp? but at the hub it would be more like 155/60.

to me even at 5 grand its rather pointless lmao.

25th January 2010, 23:42

5 grand was using average second hand parts prices, except pistons and rods

25th January 2010, 23:49

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Originally Posted by djmartin

id say more in fact as I did not mention braided brake lines or clutch line either lols.

people tend to think its straight forward to turbo a car. it aint as it costs a fortune to do it spot on. if the person takes short cuts then its eitehr the engine will run to lean resulting in the pistons been flubberd, temp pressure goin up and up, end up with a hole in the sump and oil everywhere,head gasket goin (need the head reskimming). list is endless if we are been honest with our selfs!

and all that in a saxo 8v HMM so whats that about 180bhp? but at the hub it would be more like 155/60.

to me even at 5 grand its rather pointless lmao.

You can run a decent turbo on standard internals and alot of other parts, run good power and have no issues. Theres been many about for years, just get the mapping and fueling right and dont go stupid on boost.

and relating to the previous list - coilovers in most cases in the saxo world are shitter than a decent set of shocks and springs

25th January 2010, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Ryan

You can run a decent turbo on standard internals and alot of other parts, run good power and have no issues. Theres been many about for years, just get the mapping and fueling right and dont go stupid on boost.

and relating to the previous list - coilovers in most cases in the saxo world are shitter than a decent set of shocks and springs

me id do a job right tho lol.

tbh can agree with the coil over comment same thing with the corsa b's

thing is ryan what would you consider not goin stupid on boost?

25th January 2010, 23:53

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Originally Posted by djmartin

me id do a job right tho lol.

tbh can agree with the coil over comment same thing with the corsa b's

thing is ryan what would you consider not goin stupid on boost?

But because its on stock internals it doesnt mean its not done right.

A well thought out set up on low boost is 'done more right' than a badly mapped and badly thought out set up thats had a wishlist of parts thrown at it for bragging rights.

Its like bodied engines, not everyone needs rods because they are not revving high enough. Why spend £500 more on rods when you dont need them.

I dont know how many PSI the people have been running but theres been plenty of engines on OE internals that have run very well, I could then list those which have benn done 'properly' which spent most of their life on AA trucks

25th January 2010, 23:57

Turboing as small capacity engine, to get good power gains with reliability costs an arm and a leg and a few wives/girlfriends probably. Yes cars like toyota starlet glianza are small block with lots of power but how much do you think toyota spent engineering that? IMO the only reason why you would turbo a saxo is because you want to be different. and you have more money than sense.

26th January 2010, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Sam-

IMO the only reason why you would turbo a saxo is because you want to be different. and you have more money than sense.

Everyone seems to be doing it these days. I guess this could be the new craze/theme.
No more pink wheels and mirror caps, just poor turbo setups using washing machine parts

26th January 2010, 00:13

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Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom

Everyone seems to be doing it these days. I guess this could be the new craze/theme.
No more pink wheels and mirror caps, just poor turbo setups using washing machine parts

thats the thing I just cant see the point in it really.

vts maybe but an 8v come on!

and the worse thing about it is half the cars wont be insured as turbo's or DVLA wont have been notified so there then illegal cars on the road lols.

and then some poor git goes and buys a turbo'd 8v which most probs would have been ragged to an inch of its life!

28th January 2010, 23:04

whats the best candidate for turbo 8 or 16v?

29th January 2010, 00:17

I love how the people in the know go through all that and then he asks the same fucking question!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look above matey, all ive got to say!!

29th January 2010, 10:15

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Originally Posted by wildrenegade

whats the best candidate for turbo 8 or 16v?

Whats the best blunt instrument to hit you with untill you actually read a thread your posting in?

There is no 'best candidate'. One is an 8v 1.6 producing 90/98hp at stock, the other is a 16v 1.6, same engine nearly, producing 120hp at stock.

As has been said, you can turbo either block to kingdom come but then your thinking about suspension, transmission, gearbox etc etc etc.