Xsara VTS engine conversion

3rd February 2010, 11:09

Has anyone here put a xsara VTS 2.0 16v in a saxo? How much work does it involve? I was thinking of putting the 1.6 16v in my vtr but if the 2.0 is the same amount of work I'd rather do that.

3rd February 2010, 11:14

loads of work, was guna do it with the vts lump, mounts, gear linkages, drive shafts thats as far as i got and thought f*ck that

3rd February 2010, 11:33

you will lost the powet steering and weight distribution will be even worse,because the engine is heavier,rather put turbo in your vtr,or buy vts...

3rd February 2010, 12:04

So the saxo gearbox doesn't fit? I wouldn't mind changing the linkage, mounts etc as long as there's no cutting n welding

3rd February 2010, 12:11

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/search.php

Been asked hundreds of times already.

3rd February 2010, 13:49

Why reply if you don't intend to help?

3rd February 2010, 14:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by col101

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/search.php

Been asked hundreds of times already.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisy_Smith

Why reply if you don't intend to help?

Hes been more helpfull than anyone else in this thread. Use the search function and youll find tonnes of threads askin thi question with plenty of info.

3rd February 2010, 14:51

give it a go mate the way i see it is f*ck it

3rd February 2010, 16:39

custom engine mounts, manifold, bulkhead modification, custom driveshafts, aftermarket ecu and wiring loom, custom gear rods.....

Get your chequebook out..

Kev

3rd February 2010, 16:45

saxo vts is tried and tested, simple conversion really.
xsara vts is a totally different engine that was never designed for a saxo - can be done but you must have DEEP pockets.

3rd February 2010, 16:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by db_sax

Hes been more helpfull than anyone else in this thread. Use the search function and youll find tonnes of threads askin thi question with plenty of info.

+1

plus if you do get the conversion done then the entire handling of the saxo, which is pretty good, will be comprimised

3rd February 2010, 18:38

mate go for the gti-6 engine if ya wanna 2litre been done pure times before there a uy on 106 owners who did it himself but it did need mods to make it fit like cutting pieces off and welding new bits on ill have a look for the link
and before any goes on about the weight the gti-6 engines made of alloy so is lighter than a vts engine

3rd February 2010, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorz_vts

mate go for the gti-6 engine if ya wanna 2litre been done pure times before there a uy on 106 owners who did it himself but it did need mods to make it fit like cutting pieces off and welding new bits on ill have a look for the link
and before any goes on about the weight the gti-6 engines made of alloy so is lighter than a vts engine

GTI6 and Xsara VTS engine are the same. Xsara VTS engine uses a 5speed gearbox.

3rd February 2010, 18:59

dowt it is lighter either but as many have said really not worth it mite as well get a gti-6

3rd February 2010, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by rorz_vts

mate go for the gti-6 engine if ya wanna 2litre been done pure times before there a uy on 106 owners who did it himself but it did need mods to make it fit like cutting pieces off and welding new bits on ill have a look for the link
and before any goes on about the weight the gti-6 engines made of alloy so is lighter than a vts engine

Mi 16 is alloy
xsara vts /gti6 is cast iron .

waste of time and effort to fit usch a poor performing 2.0 16v engine
if you want a project and don,t mind remaking everything fit a proper 2.0 engine not the xu thing its junk
like honda type r engine + box ,will be same amount of work but that is alloy and 40_bhp more tostart with and with revving so high will be better suited to a lght weight car than a torquey low revving unit like the renault clio unit.
or go whole hog and fit the 3.0 v6 cit /pug unit.
a man on saxo forum has two fitted in a c2 -one front + one in the back.
but if you reaaly want some work get a passat engine + trans axle and stick it in the back --they make 400+ with a little boost ,and as it would be a true mid engined car , and will lay all the power down and not break anything

3rd February 2010, 22:04

Thanks guys. Well I don't have very deep pockets so I think I'll have to settle for the 1.6 for now. The type r engine sounds good tho any idea how much everything would cost roughly?

3rd February 2010, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Chrisy_Smith

Thanks guys. Well I don't have very deep pockets so I think I'll have to settle for the 1.6 for now. The type r engine sounds good tho any idea how much everything would cost roughly?

A lot mate, may aswell just get a VTS engine and turbo it. Would be lighter, cheaper and you could quite easily see 200bhp+

3rd February 2010, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisy_Smith

Thanks guys. Well I don't have very deep pockets so I think I'll have to settle for the 1.6 for now. The type r engine sounds good tho any idea how much everything would cost roughly?

Several £thousand

good things arent cheap.

3rd February 2010, 22:11

Driving a diesel is like being gay - it’s more accepted than it used to be… but it’s still wrong.

That's the best saying ever!

3rd February 2010, 22:16

I'm slowly realising speed = big bucks. I want a celica gt4 next but the insurance is a killer

4th February 2010, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisy_Smith

Driving a diesel is like being gay - its more accepted than it used to be but its still wrong.

That's the best saying ever!

Is your car a diesel?
If it is you'll need to change all the fuel system as well.

4th February 2010, 14:53

Good Ideas