Important! : Cambelt's just gone...

1. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

   #1 4th February 2010, 13:20

   Hi all, driving down the road today approching a traffic light bout 20 mph as i shifted into 2nd, the engine cut out and stalled, i only had the cambelt replaced 2 days ago so i knew what it was, i just about heard the noise over the music it sounded like a sea gull was fluttering around in the engine bay, does anyone know how messed up the engine will be? Its going into a mates garage which is a citreon specialists today, hopefully not too heafty on the £££'s.
2. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #2 4th February 2010, 13:21

   valves will be smashed, did a garage change the belt for you? If so, looks like they got some unpaid work to do.

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3. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

   #3 4th February 2010, 13:26

   me and the next door neighbour change the belt who's a experianced mechinic, i'm just thinking cause i know the garage owner what could i do while the engines out to increase the perofmance?
4. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #4 4th February 2010, 13:29

   forged pistons, turbo and supercharger ?
   
   maybe a bit of nitrous if your feeling fruity
5. hammy105 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 High Wycombe / Portsmouth / Canterbury Posts: 703 Mk1 Vtr & Mk2 Vtr

   #5 4th February 2010, 13:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz forged pistons, turbo and supercharger ? maybe a bit of nitrous if your feeling fruity

   loving raunchz thoughts! but defo turbo it if its out and rebuild it all so you shouldnt have anything to worry about for a while!
6. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

   #6 4th February 2010, 13:36

   maybe i just think about getting it running first, its going to cost a bomb anyway, just hope that not too much is damaged..
7. user_12308 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2006 The Lang Toun Posts: 4133 Mk2 Clio V6 #007 of 354

   #7 4th February 2010, 13:43

   fingers crossed but its gonna need a re-build either way... happened to my dads 200sx years ago. gutting! best of luck with it mate

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8. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

   #8 4th February 2010, 15:24

   hi just phoned the garage, they said there working on it now i'll keep you people posted, all they said that was the cambelt covers smashed, just out of curosity if the engine is totally knackered what shall i do, could i do an insuarnce claim??
9. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #9 4th February 2010, 15:41

   lol, not really I dont think.
   
   Just drop another engine in - getting one is pretty cheap and fitting isnt too bad
10. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

    #10 4th February 2010, 15:47

    Yea i was looking on ebay, going fone the garage at 4:30 will post up what they say...
11. user_35312 Established Member Joined: Jun 2009 Coventry CV6 Posts: 2477 Slowda Octavia vRS SOLD - Cam'd Chip'd VTR

    #11 4th February 2010, 16:52

    definitely get a cam
12. Jo3fish Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 1267 03 EP3

    #12 4th February 2010, 16:59

    Id be gutted if i were you, if a garage fitted it.. they would be paying.
    
    If a mate fitted it, he'd be paying.
    
    If id fucked up.. id be paying.
    
    either way, valves are going to be bent.
13. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

    #13 4th February 2010, 18:10

    went down the garage to inpsect the damage one of the screws on the side of the block which was holding the tensioner on had sheered off, garage are going to drop the engine out and let me know whats damaged.
14. boz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2005 somewhere on this planet, doing something..... around northumberland or in the middle of the sea Posts: 8774 Mk2 VTS track mk1 turbo vts scooby engined 2CV

    #14 4th February 2010, 23:46

    similar thing happend to me a few weeks back, some how 4.5 teeth were missing from my belt, down into 2nd from 3rd at about 20mph ish, eratic fast clicking noise, car starting on 2 cylinders.
    i was lucky as fook tho, bent all of the exhaust valves, inlets were fine. pistons were ok as well.
    
    a mate had a spare head for me to rob the valves out of.
    new head gasket, head bolts and a few other bits n bobs and she is back good as gold lol.
    
    nightmare when it happens.
15. user_25842 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 canterbury Posts: 174 2000 saxo vts

    #15 5th February 2010, 12:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz forged pistons, turbo and supercharger ? Maybe a bit of nitrous if your feeling fruity

    +1
    
    be as fruity as possible
16. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

    #16 10th February 2010, 14:29

    HI all just heard back from the garage, all 16 valves are damaged, all exhausts valves are damaged, valave seats are damaged, injectors might be damaged. Been sent to bridgewater for pressure testing, will keep you posted...
17. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

    #17 10th February 2010, 14:33

    I was only doing 20 MPH... lol.
18. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #18 10th February 2010, 14:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesgibbons HI all just heard back from the garage, all 16 valves are damaged, all exhausts valves are damaged, valave seats are damaged, injectors might be damaged. Been sent to bridgewater for pressure testing, will keep you posted...

    injectors ?!
    
    Cheaper to buy a second hand head than repair it tbh. A full set of new valves plus sorting out the valve guides will be more expensive than a prefectly fine second hand 16v head
19. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

    #19 19th February 2010, 19:23

    Hi all got the car back today, brand new injectors, all 16valves replaced, new guides, and the head has be polished out, how much ...... £1100, ouch!!!
20. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #20 19th February 2010, 20:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jamesgibbons Hi all got the car back today, brand new injectors, all 16valves replaced, new guides, and the head has be polished out, how much ...... £1100, ouch!!!

    No way?!
    
    £1100?!
21. user_10418 Saxperience Addict Joined: Jun 2006 Wirral Posts: 13584 Wickerd red VTS MK2, Two tone VTS MK2,vvc Metro..

    #21 19th February 2010, 20:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz No way?! £1100?!

    Not good
22. jamesgibbons Newbie Joined: Oct 2009 Taunton Posts: 18 Saxo vts MK2

    #22 20th February 2010, 08:06

    Basically i would just use this as guide. Get your cambelts done!!! LOL