s1 box

1. leighwinter Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 connahs quay Posts: 441 1.2 vauxhall corsa 1.4 mg zr 1.4 punto turbo 1

   #1 15th February 2010, 20:56

   im doing a vts conversion soon and heard alot of people saying the s1 box is a good box for the vts why?? and are they easy to get hold of
2. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #2 15th February 2010, 20:58

   they have a higher FD so effectively mean you'll go through the gears quicker, but will have a lower top speed.
   
   They are pretty rare tbh. most will need a minor rebuild or some parts replacing due to their age and condition.
   
   Expect to pay around £200+ for a box
3. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #3 15th February 2010, 21:00

   Will also not help with your MPG
4. leighwinter Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 connahs quay Posts: 441 1.2 vauxhall corsa 1.4 mg zr 1.4 punto turbo 1

   #4 15th February 2010, 21:04

   hmm i still like the sound of this though its all about the 0-60 rarley do over a hundred why because i dont fancy losing my licence and it struggles to get there
5. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #5 15th February 2010, 21:05

   If your planning on using it as a daily, dont get the S1 box.
   
   ive got a 1.4xsi box (which is very similar to an s1) and im going 100 miles to £20, and im 8v down
6. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #6 15th February 2010, 21:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by leighwinter hmm i still like the sound of this though its all about the 0-60 rarley do over a hundred why because i dont fancy losing my licence and it struggles to get there

   Need 2 gear changes to get to 60 with a s1 box
7. leighwinter Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 connahs quay Posts: 441 1.2 vauxhall corsa 1.4 mg zr 1.4 punto turbo 1

   #7 15th February 2010, 21:20

   so can someone confirm i would be better off with a xsi box and yes this is my daily
8. Steffrallye Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Bodelwyddan , N.Wales Posts: 1252 Peugeot S2 106 GTi 1.6 16v

   #8 15th February 2010, 21:20

   it well worth it, and is one of the best things you will ever do , its just a case of doing 60mph on the motorways to save the fuel lol
9. WestyVTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2004 Gosport Posts: 3140 saxo VTR, Clio 1.2 turbo, prious, Kawasaki 363 nin

   #9 15th February 2010, 22:42

   i had a rallye box in mine! OMG i want another one! just do it.... why moddify a car if your worrried about mpg??
10. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #10 15th February 2010, 22:44

    Might have to sell mine for more
11. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

    #11 15th February 2010, 22:44

    got an s1 box on my furio, yeah i no furio blah blah blah... it is mega short and drinks petrol - however stays at high revs and pulls lovely - it's not good sitting 70mph @ 4k revs!! going rate for one is £250+ and its luck of draw if it need rebuild or is an actual s1 box.
12. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

    #12 16th February 2010, 00:38

    I have one and it's the best mod i've done tbh. Getting around 30mpg with one and that's mainly town driving. It's my daily driver and I don't find it a pain at all tbh. It can get a bit annoying on the motorway but as long as you stick to 65/70 it's fine.
13. rupe30 Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Midlands Posts: 25 Pug 106 xsi 16v

    #13 16th February 2010, 17:16

    I've got an s1 box with quaife diff and its mental! 0-60 timed at 5.3 at york raceway so if u want a good 0-60 do it! Motorways are a bit of a nightmare but its worth it when your racing about.
14. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #14 16th February 2010, 18:13

    didnt know york did 0-60?
15. leighwinter Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 connahs quay Posts: 441 1.2 vauxhall corsa 1.4 mg zr 1.4 punto turbo 1

    #15 16th February 2010, 19:17

    thow shall be getting an s1 box
16. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

    #16 16th February 2010, 20:19

    Wheres the best place to get an S1 box and how can you tell if its geniue?
17. saxo_furio2000 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2007 Portsmouth Posts: 556 Integra DC5 supercharged

    #17 16th February 2010, 22:43

    you will find a code which will tell you if its genuine .
    
    try looking on the rallyeregister forum , they are always breaking engine/boxes.
    
    i had mine rebuilt by mankee
    
    love it !
18. vtrlogan Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Ely~ Posts: 4591 Mantis Blue VTR

    #18 16th February 2010, 22:48

    this is my old cammed vtr for s1 box, they are WICKED!! love them worth it all day long mate!
    
    
19. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

    #19 17th February 2010, 01:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_furio2000 you will find a code which will tell you if its genuine .

    Most of the time yeah, but not always. Even if the code suggests it's an original Rallye box, you have to be careful as the pinion shaft and crown wheel may not be original S1 ones. They could have been replaced with VTR/S ones if the box had been reconditioned and this will just make the box a VTR/S box. People know that these boxes are on high demand and therefore worth alot so there are dodgy sellers out there. Alternatively you could do what I did and buy the S1 Rallye Pinion Shaft and Crown wheel and fit these to your current gearbox. This will turn your gearbox into a S1 Rallye Box. Saying that though, those are probably even harder to come across than the S1 boxes themselves!
20. rupe30 Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Midlands Posts: 25 Pug 106 xsi 16v

    #20 17th February 2010, 17:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexy_gt didnt know york did 0-60?

    Yeh right hand lane 0-60, left hand lane gives a 60ft time.
    
    The box's are really rare and your chances of getting one which doesnt need a rebuild of somekind are pretty slim. So it'l be an expensive route to go.
    
    I got one 'in great condition' which clearly needed a rebuild as soon as I fitted and drove it. Then once it was in the diff blew up a few months later! so safest bet's xsi box, but if a decent looking rallye box comes up for sale I'd go for it, they transform your car!
21. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

    #21 17th February 2010, 19:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rupe30 Yeh right hand lane 0-60, left hand lane gives a 60ft time. The box's are really rare and your chances of getting one which doesnt need a rebuild of somekind are pretty slim. So it'l be an expensive route to go. I got one 'in great condition' which clearly needed a rebuild as soon as I fitted and drove it. Then once it was in the diff blew up a few months later! so safest bet's xsi box, but if a decent looking rallye box comes up for sale I'd go for it, they transform your car!

    Is an XSi box worth doing? How similar are they to an S1 box, are they a good compromise? Are they a direct fit? Sorry for the questions lol.
    
    Cheers.
22. rupe30 Newbie Joined: Dec 2006 Midlands Posts: 25 Pug 106 xsi 16v

    #22 18th February 2010, 18:30

    Definately worth doing as it's miles better that the vts box. Both box's are direct fit. xsi box makes it fast, rallye box makes it mental.