how do i make my vtr faster?

16th February 2010, 19:23

iv got a supersprint back box on the way.should have a decat pipe bought too. i have a pipercross open induction.

trying to get the most on a budget

16th February 2010, 19:29

Box with a lower FD (final drive).

on a budget; 1.1 box for 20-30 quid.

Hell of a difference imo.

A 4-2-1 will help also.

Or you could go crazy, and put a raylle head and inlet on, run a raylle ecu/loom. Would give you the 7800 rev limit on a 8v.

16th February 2010, 19:29

search . . .

16th February 2010, 19:30

is the rallye stuff hard to do?

16th February 2010, 19:36

like this one http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...t=rallye+inlet

16th February 2010, 19:37

Depends if your capable of taking your cylinder head off, And replacing it?

Gasket set, headbolts etc..

Or stick a ph3 cam in your current head, and fit a raylle inlet.. Still means head off and gasket set etc.

But tbh, i have a vtr with a 4-2-1, and s/s centre.. With a 1.1 box and cold air feed and a panel filter.

And it's enough to put a grin on my face. Even after owning a 200bhp turbo..

Oh yeah, and still get 35-45mpg dependent on driving style.

16th February 2010, 19:37

SS centre section and manifold.

16th February 2010, 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys_VTR

like this one http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...t=rallye+inlet

Yeah that's the inlet. 3xbigger than the vtr's, And its Ally so more of a induction roar.

16th February 2010, 19:40

Put ya foot further down on the throttle.

Gearbox essentialy though.

16th February 2010, 19:41

my dad might know what hes doing with that stuff. with ph3 cams am i right you dont need ecu re done

16th February 2010, 19:43

you don't need a remap no..

Still works out as 300 to get the cam changed, if you do it yourself tho..

16th February 2010, 19:45

ph3 cams aint gonna make a huge difference.

Sort your gearing out, tyres, breathings mods then look at cams and engine work.

16th February 2010, 19:46

so next a smaller gearbox?

16th February 2010, 19:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andys_VTR

so next a smaller gearbox?

Definatly gearbox.

The VTR comes with the longest box in the range.

All round box would be a VTS.

Depends how far you want to go with accelaration taking into account mpg or what your after doing such as quarter miles. Some of the shorter boxes will be worse on the wuarter mile as your losing time with an extra gearchange.

Other boxes which are short than the VTS longest to shortest:

VTS
1.6xsi/S2 rallye
1.4 xsi
1.3Rallye

Think thats it...

Tyres will help with accelaration and obviously the circumference.

Loosing weight will improve accelaration and MPG aswell.

After gearing id look at breathing mods..Exhaust Manifold, decent induction kit with cold air feed or panal filter with a good air feed, also the exhaust system.

After that, 1.3 rallye inlet and i THINK they only fit on the early silver top VTR's with the port spacings or somthing. If your using the standard inlet then get the early early black top head and put that onto a mk2 silvertop bottom end. Can change the heads for a 1.4 xsi, or rallye. Possibly change cams on a black top head with a remap. 1.3 Rallye cams are similar to uprated ones as it is IRC.

Thats all breif, someone else can go into more details or correct anything..

16th February 2010, 19:56

drive downhill mate

16th February 2010, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxova

you don't need a remap no..

Still works out as 300 to get the cam changed, if you do it yourself tho..

You do if you want it to idle and run right

Without a map it won't make the power that it could, won't idle correctly and the fueling etc will be off. Never heard of anyone running it without a map permanently.

16th February 2010, 21:24

thanks for all the info guys thats definatly got me thinking

16th February 2010, 23:27

do the simple things first like a good service plugs,leads and i took filter off and sprayed choke and carb cleaner down keep the revs up tho cos it will stall

16th February 2010, 23:31

more grip/controll/handeling will make the car faster than more power every time

17th February 2010, 08:04

so a set of toyos a good idea?

18th February 2010, 00:56

wat would happen putting a 1.4 head on a vtr bottom end?

18th February 2010, 01:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

You do if you want it to idle and run right

Without a map it won't make the power that it could, won't idle correctly and the fueling etc will be off. Never heard of anyone running it without a map permanently.

im running my ph3s un mapped perminantly and the idle and running of the car is spot on. if its timed up on the rolling road correctly then it'll run fine unmapped

18th February 2010, 07:51

good suspension then add lightness

18th February 2010, 14:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxova

Box with a lower FD (final drive).

on a budget; 1.1 box for 20-30 quid.

Hell of a difference imo.

A 4-2-1 will help also.

Or you could go crazy, and put a raylle head and inlet on, run a raylle ecu/loom. Would give you the 7800 rev limit on a 8v.

Do you mean gearbox or backbox here mate?

Ben

18th February 2010, 14:09

strip it out!

18th February 2010, 14:12

Ben - Gearbox buddy.

18th February 2010, 18:32

Strip it out but don't tell anyone on here, most will just tell you how much of a cock you are doing it. Mines stripped out and you def notice a slight difference.

18th February 2010, 18:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinner_vtr

im running my ph3s un mapped perminantly and the idle and running of the car is spot on. if its timed up on the rolling road correctly then it'll run fine unmapped

Never heard of anyone doing it that way and it running normal

18th February 2010, 18:46

ye mines fine, it needs a map to see full potential but i got 113 hp on dyno so im happy for the min

23rd February 2010, 18:27

its when youve got a stripped out car then put the interior back in you notice that it does make a slight difference

23rd February 2010, 18:31

flap your arms mate .. instant 20bhp

24th February 2010, 23:30

Gotta say toyo tires are awesome.
I took my back seats, and sub out of my vtr and you would not believe the difference, when I put it all back in the car and went for a drive, I thought engine had broken.
Can't live without sub though!!!!

24th February 2010, 23:33

white go faster stripes lol............. jokes

got to consentrate on breathing mods and exhaust system thn maybe move onto engine work if you have the funds

25th February 2010, 00:04

I think stripes will add about 6 bhp

25th February 2010, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Donkei-

white go faster stripes lol............. jokes

got to consentrate on breathing mods and exhaust system thn maybe move onto engine work if you have the funds

whoa, note to self, read previous comments...