swirls

1. 02furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Birmingham Posts: 331 Saxo furio MG ZR 1.8 120 Astra vxr had mx5 dr

   #1 22nd February 2010, 12:45

   would claying my car, reduce some of my swirl marks, they ent bad, only a few on the bonnet really, thanks!
2. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #2 22nd February 2010, 13:17

   No....it just removes surface contaminates, makes no difference to swirls.
   
   Its just preparing the paintwork for polishing.
3. user_35417 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Luton Posts: 232 Mauritius Blue VTR & K5 Gixxer 6

   #3 22nd February 2010, 13:18

   No.
   
   Those swirls you see are fine scratches, what you need is a polishing mop and some fine compound polish.
4. 02furio Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Birmingham Posts: 331 Saxo furio MG ZR 1.8 120 Astra vxr had mx5 dr

   #4 22nd February 2010, 20:33

   does anyone have any suggestions on what compound? best makes etc etc
5. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #5 22nd February 2010, 20:47

   What you doing it by hand oir machine??
6. Mcinabout Established Member Joined: May 2009 Worcester Posts: 2453 Saxo-1.1 forte MK2-posi blue-Flat Arch

   #6 22nd February 2010, 20:53

   i saw some of this on CYC, was thinking about trying it myself:
   
   http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish...r/prod_93.html
7. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #7 22nd February 2010, 20:56

   Good stuff but you need to work down them 2.5 one then to the 1.0 then to a fine polish
   
   ive used it and tbh its best used with machine, it says on the bottle you can use it by hand but you will be there quite a while
   
   Best thing ive seen by hand is the megs 3 stage
8. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

   #8 22nd February 2010, 21:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Mcinabout i saw some of this on CYC, was thinking about trying it myself: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polish...r/prod_93.html

   Very good polish..even when used by hand, use a m/f applicator to apply.
   
   
   Note though that swirl removal is very hard by hand and you will not get a finish any where near as good as machine polishing.
9. Mcinabout Established Member Joined: May 2009 Worcester Posts: 2453 Saxo-1.1 forte MK2-posi blue-Flat Arch

   #9 22nd February 2010, 21:00

   Okay cheers Pred I also saw the Chemical guys all in one polish, how do people rate that for swirls and just in general? But then again i havent got a machine polisher:/
10. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #10 22nd February 2010, 21:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mcinabout Okay cheers Pred I also saw the Chemical guys all in one polish, how do people rate that for swirls and just in general? But then again i havent got a machine polisher:/

    Ive used that by hand and it does remove swirls (yes remove not fill) with hard work........also contains a sealant as well to keep the surface protected.
11. Mcinabout Established Member Joined: May 2009 Worcester Posts: 2453 Saxo-1.1 forte MK2-posi blue-Flat Arch

    #11 22nd February 2010, 21:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Ive used that by hand and it does remove swirls (yes remove not fill) with hard work........also contains a sealant as well to keep the surface protected.

    Thanks james, i may get myself some that then, shame CYC havent got in stock at the moment
12. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #12 22nd February 2010, 21:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mcinabout Thanks james, i may get myself some that then, shame CYC havent got in stock at the moment

    Will be in stock shortly buddy...i asked tim
13. Mcinabout Established Member Joined: May 2009 Worcester Posts: 2453 Saxo-1.1 forte MK2-posi blue-Flat Arch

    #13 22nd February 2010, 21:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Will be in stock shortly buddy...i asked tim

    Oh good good, ill keep my eye on it, thanks
14. TypeRDavid Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 Birmingham Posts: 1541 R32 GTR Skyline Metro GTi Lancia Delta

    #14 23rd February 2010, 00:42

    Menzerna + Rotary/DA = Shiny Paintwork, Happy days
15. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #15 23rd February 2010, 16:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TypeRDavid Menzerna + Rotary/DA = Shiny Paintwork, Happy days

    I Love Menzerna
    
    Thats all i have to say.
16. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

    #16 24th February 2010, 05:24

    3M for me
17. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #17 24th February 2010, 08:33

    You have converted me to 3m pads (most of the time) but still prefer the Menz range of polishes.
18. adam19 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Harlow, essex Posts: 2731 Clio 182

    #18 25th February 2010, 19:12

    gonna have to look into this stuff myself, my bonnet seems to have alot of swirls on it
19. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #19 25th February 2010, 19:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA No....it just removes surface contaminates, makes no difference to swirls. Its just preparing the paintwork for polishing.

    yes it does it makes them stand out even more lols as you have removed the micronan particals of dirt within the swirl scratch marks lol.
    
    so it does makea difference. a difference for the worse lol.
    
    people who wash there cars then clay them then polish,gloss and wax seal them have not done a blind bit of difference to the car unless its done by a polisher.
20. J222JRA Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2007 Posts: 16839 Saxo VTS, Westfield

    #20 25th February 2010, 20:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djmartin yes it does it makes them stand out even more lols as you have removed the micronan particals of dirt within the swirl scratch marks lol. so it does makea difference. a difference for the worse lol. People who wash there cars then clay them then polish,gloss and wax seal them have not done a blind bit of difference to the car unless its done by a polisher.

    Not strictly true Martin as some polishes are quite good at swirl removal when done by hand.....admittedly its very hard work and not as good as a machine but it does make a difference.
21. djmartin Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2006 Near Hull Posts: 8405 BMW 3.0 X3,toyota mr2 & Skyline R33

    #21 25th February 2010, 20:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by J222JRA Not strictly true Martin as some polishes are quite good at swirl removal when done by hand.....admittedly its very hard work and not as good as a machine but it does make a difference.

    its only a slight difference though, to the extent its not worth the extra effort maybe on small panels yes but not a full car. you would use more product aswell overall compared to how a polisher would spread it a hell of alot more evenly.