3 stud brakes

1. user_36970 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 walsall Posts: 670 two tone wheel barrow . 19" rim with a flat tyre.

   #1 26th February 2010, 01:09

   my stopping power is poo!! i mean REALLY bad.
   
   the pads and disks seem fine, no leaks in pipes, pedal isnt too soft, been bled twice at a garage because i thought i was doing somethink wrong.
   but still no joy.
   
   i dont realy fancy going down the conversion route tbh.
   
   do you think a decent set of disks and pads will help (mintex or somethink)
   
   any suggestions please... i need this sorting asap before i end up killing meself
2. Willow Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Newcastle Posts: 185 Citreon saxo VTS 16 valve

   #2 26th February 2010, 01:11

   i have red dots groved and drilled wkd mate. Obv if you upgrade the disks you have to upgrade pads
3. user_36970 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2009 walsall Posts: 670 two tone wheel barrow . 19" rim with a flat tyre.

   #3 26th February 2010, 01:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Willow i have red dots groved and drilled wkd mate. Obv if you upgrade the disks you have to upgrade pads

   its a 1.1 m8 no need what so ever for drilled and grooved... they just crack so easy with the heat anyway
4. Willow Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Newcastle Posts: 185 Citreon saxo VTS 16 valve

   #4 26th February 2010, 01:19

   ahh. hmm well you can get red dots for 50 pound a set. I thought you had that car in your DP haha
5. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

   #5 26th February 2010, 20:01

   shit pad material? Ive found that some are brilliant and some are awful. Paid 34quid (yes, ouch) for some brake pads and they dont fade as quickly!
6. adam91 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Bristol Posts: 229 saxo vtr now proton gti

   #6 26th February 2010, 20:29

   change the brake fluid and put braided brake hoses on makes a big diffrence.
7. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

   #7 27th February 2010, 10:41

   Try some branded discs and pads.
   
   Can't be any worse than standard.
8. hazza-106 L-plater Joined: Aug 2009 Horsham Posts: 51 Peugeot 106 XSi 1.4 Saxo 1.1i

   #8 27th February 2010, 12:32

   try and find some citroen ax gt brakes there bigger! i had them on one of my old 106's
9. Ben_L Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 Billericay, Essex (England) Posts: 6774 1.1.1i, 2.Mk2 VTR 3.Astra SRI 150

   #9 27th February 2010, 12:44

   I had mintex on my 1.1 and they seemed fine
10. Mikol Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Somewhere between Bedford and Brixworth Posts: 2373 106 XS 16v Driveway Ornament

    #10 27th February 2010, 18:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hazza-106 try and find some citroen ax gt brakes there bigger! i had them on one of my old 106's

    No.
    
    Bigger yes, worth the ridiculous amount of work and parts needed to fit them no.
    
    AX GT brakes are either
    
    - Mk1 258mm disc so larger, but use a older caliper than your standard one. The ones on saxos actually replaced the GT caliper on later models.
    
    - Mk2 247mm disc so yes larger than standard, but these use the EXACT same caliper as 4 stud 1.1 brakes and are essentially the exact same braking system.
    
    Problem is with either of these setups you need the ENTIRE AX suspension leg. Not fun. Finding a set in good nick from a (at best) 12 year old to (at worst) 20 year old car is a whore.
    
    I know because I've done it.
    
    Go read -
    
    http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...d.php?t=130394
    
    3 stud section is on the 2nd post.
    
    4 stud is the EASIEST, CHEAPEST and MOST EFFECTIVE brake conversion available to 3 studders, as the best 3 stud brakes are actually the worst 4 stud ones... go figure.
11. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #11 27th February 2010, 19:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chinkostu shit pad material? Ive found that some are brilliant and some are awful. Paid 34quid (yes, ouch) for some brake pads and they dont fade as quickly!

    i pay £130 a set for my pads!
    That is for a road going 306 s16!
    
    But as said try some quality pads and disks.
    Then could look in braided brakelines.
    I supply sets that will fit.
    
    Get it on an mot brake test machine and c what it pulls.