leading on from wheel balancing

1. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #1 27th February 2010, 17:32

   ok took wheel to a diff gagrage today to have wheel re balanced after tire being put on again.
   sorry to say i took it to kwik fit where a kid younger than myself said yea i'll balance it. came back to say i have put 105grm on to balance it cos its buckled. now i know the wheel wasnt; buckled yesturday when tire went on...so question is what force is needed to buckle a wheel. bearing in mind only drove car home hit small pot hole at max 20mph if not less wasn;t deep either.
   i know kwik fit arent that good for advice but i didn;t see if he removed the original weights off wheel or weather he is just an idiot.
   i'm in two minds as to weather to dive out of my way to another tire place to see if they agree?
   advise please
2. craigy2703 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 272 citroen saxo vtr 2001

   #2 27th February 2010, 18:07

   it depends where you hit it saw a wheel almost in two when a women hit a kurb at about 20 mph and ive seen a wheel perfectly fine after hitting a pot hole at 40 it reli does depend on hit jack your car up and spin the wheel and have a look a big buckle shuld be noticeable easily
3. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #3 27th February 2010, 18:21

   well the pot hole i hit was like a crack in road, did bang. so presuming it didn;t do anything.
   but also as u say if i span the wheel i;d see a buckle, which when i replaced wheel yesturday i didn;t see.
   could it be if he hasn;t removed the original weight from the wheel before balancing it would say its buckled?
4. craigy2703 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 272 citroen saxo vtr 2001

   #4 27th February 2010, 18:42

   yer or if the balancing macihne broken or he prob didnt have a clue pop down another tire place for a second opinion cant head only couple of quid to get done
5. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #5 27th February 2010, 18:45

   yea think i'll have too, i'll be right pissed off if wheel is actually buckled.
   
   another question.....
   
   could a tire machine buckle a wheel?
6. craigy2703 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 272 citroen saxo vtr 2001

   #6 27th February 2010, 18:50

   no a tyre machine couldnt
7. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #7 27th February 2010, 23:43

   looked at wheel turned it round and def can;t see a buckle. could tire be put on inproper? or still be a weight problem.
8. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

   #8 27th February 2010, 23:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by craigy2703 no a tyre machine couldnt

   yes. it could... but extremely doubtful.
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by marcusd looked at wheel turned it round and def can;t see a buckle. could tire be put on inproper? or still be a weight problem.

   if it needed 105g, the buckle should be noticable, or less noticable if there was a crack in teh alloy.
   dont forget the balancing machine spins at 60mph . . . so would be easier to see on one of those than spinning by hand!
   
   if i were you, i would of asked to have seen it being balanced!
   i do work for kwik fit, and it shouldnt of been a problem in being able to do that.
9. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #9 28th February 2010, 13:16

   to be honest the bloke who does the work i have a massive problem with since he fucked my alloys last time. gonna go else where for second opinion