How-to-Guide: Replacing Wishbones

  1. #1
    Even though this didn't solve the problem of the knocking on my vts, I thought I would make a guide for this because I couldn't find a proper one with pictures when I was looking before. It's not a particularly hard to job to do, but some bits are just fiddly. It took me about 2 hours to do both sides. Here it is in easy steps...

    Tools

    Jack
    Axel stands (optional, but safer!)
    17 and 18mm sockets
    17mm deep set socket
    Spanners (like a dick can't remember the sizes but around 17/18!)
    Hammer
    Stanley knife
    WD-40 (or any other penetrating fluid)
    New pinch bolts for the ball joint. Can get these from Citroen for about a pound each.
    Part number for pinch bolt: 352243
    Part number for self locking nut: 362230

    Guide

    Start off by loosening the wheel nuts, and jacking the front of the car up. You can use 2 axel stands and get the whole front up, but I decided to do one side at a time. Take off the wheel.



    First off you have to loosen the nut where the ball joint is. If you're finding this difficult, spray on some penetrating fluid such as WD-40 and return in 5 or so minutes.



    Then locate the bolt that goes through the bush part of the wishbone, and spray on some WD-40



    Then proceed to loosen this nut off using a spanner and an 18mm socket.



    Next you have to access the 2 bolts that are found in the front footwells.
    First off undo this bolt here



    Then remove the rubber seal strip, and loosen the metal clips that hold the carpet in place



    Lift the carpet forward to reveal a black flap and lift this up. Below it you should see some foam that you need to cut through with a stanley knife. If the wishbones have been changed on your car before, this foam will already be cut.



    This will reveal 2 nuts, undo these using a 17mm deep set socket.



    Get back under the car and completely undo and take out the pinch bolt where the balljoint is.



    Once this is out, do the same to bolt that goes through the bush. I re-used this bolt so kept all the washers and bits in a safe place.



    You are now ready to reomve the wishbone. If this proves difficult, use a hammer to aid you and hit the wishbone downwards. This is probably the easiest position to do this from.



    Old vs New



    Now you are ready to fit the new wishbone. I found this the most fiddly part but you will get there in the end!

    Offer the wishbone up, hammer the ball joint end back into the hole where it come out from, and locate the bolts on the other end through the holes in the footwell. I then put the 2 nuts on finger tight in the footwell to stop them falling through.



    For the next bit you use whatever method takes your fancy, but i decided to use a jack to get the bush part of the wishbone back in place to put the bolt back through.



    Once this bolt is through, tighten it up and do the same to the 2 bolts in the footwell.

    Then take your new pinchbolt, as you can see the old ones a touch rusty!



    To make sure the ball joint part of the new wish bone is in far enough, use a hammer , so that when you look through the hole it will be perfectly lined up ready for a bolt to go through



    Tighten this bolt up and check the others just to make they are too.

    And that's it, your new wishbone should then look like this



    Hope you found it helpfull

    I will not be held responible for any damage or incidents that occur to the car, yourself or anyone/anything else if this guide is followed.
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  2. #2
    thanks good guide doin a friends 106 on friday
  3. #3
    excellent. What i did when putting the new ones on was slide the balljoint into the strut, then jack the strut up until the 2 bolts slotted in. From there i did them up fingertight, then slid the other one in. Haynes does it some odd way!
    Oh, and i reused the pinch bolt and its been fine. But to replace them is a 20 minute job at the most!
  4. #4
    Perfect mate! Thanks. Need to do this myself. Is it best to replace both sides? I know one has definitely perished from pothole damage!
  5. #5
    No worries mate. Yeah you should do both sides really. And that doesn't surprise me about the potholes there's so many about atm
  6. #6
    cheers fella! Don't suppose you can post up the part number for the pinchbolt please bud?
  7. #7
    Nice guide, sexy looking wishbones too
  8. #8
    If your wishbone is all good and just your balljoint is knocking then you can remove them and get a new balljoint pressed into your wishbone which is about 4 quid or so, works out alot cheaper...

    Good clear guide with useful pictures though!
  9. #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SaxoAL View Post
    cheers fella! Don't suppose you can post up the part number for the pinchbolt please bud?
    yes mate they are...

    Ball joint pinch bolt: 352243
    Self locking nuts: 362230

    Came to a total of £3.50

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom View Post
    Nice guide, sexy looking wishbones too
    haha, I might have to get some of those sexy looking track rod ends off you soon as well lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rallyee View Post
    If your wishbone is all good and just your balljoint is knocking then you can remove them and get a new balljoint pressed into your wishbone which is about 4 quid or so, works out alot cheaper...

    Good clear guide with useful pictures though!
    Yeah this is always an option if you have got access to a ball joint press. But i'm in the process of replacing a lot of parts on my car
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  10. #10
    I didn't realise all the thanks things go when you edit that's well out of order!
  11. #11
    Great Job mate

    I replaced mine the other day, thought i might add that hammering in the ball joint bolt caused mine to burr as the ball joint wasnt alligned perfectly.

    Also i forgot to put the ball joint protector plate back on as i thought it was scrap metal!

    Its a learning curve lol

    Great guide
  12. #12
    Great guide will come in very handy to alot of people.
  13. #13
    Thanks doesn't go when you edit the post
  14. #14
    yeh i just realised that lol it seemed to dissappear when i first did it now there back again!
  15. #15
    Excellent guide mate
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  17. #17
    Great guide, thanks for taking the time !!!
  18. #18
    nice 1 m8 did mine today easy to do with that help you put on here thanks again m8
  19. #19
    i need to replace both of mine the front wheels sit to far back in the arches, are the ebay ones oem or just general shit copys that get your car through a mot
  20. #20
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Furioman View Post
    i need to replace both of mine the front wheels sit to far back in the arches, are the ebay ones oem or just general shit copys that get your car through a mot
    hi i got mine off ebay they are good 67 pounds for 2, i gave them a paint so wont rust, easy to do did not think i would of done them if i did not see this post
  21. #21
    Your guide was soooooooooooooo helpful. My car failed it's MOT and i had to replace the wishbone, got my haynes manual, but that's mince compared to your guide.

    It did take me absolutely ages, wishbones off ebay, didn't have the right socket size 18mm (ebay), had to wait on pinch bolts (ebay), realised i needed a 18mm spanner (ebay). Eventually got the fecker sorted today, and i didn't have to pay a garage £20+ an hour.

    Your guide is clear and easy to follow, if i can do it anybody can...

    Thank you sooooooooooo much..
  22. #22
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by debidodah View Post
    Your guide was soooooooooooooo helpful. My car failed it's MOT and i had to replace the wishbone, got my haynes manual, but that's mince compared to your guide.

    It did take me absolutely ages, wishbones off ebay, didn't have the right socket size 18mm (ebay), had to wait on pinch bolts (ebay), realised i needed a 18mm spanner (ebay). Eventually got the fecker sorted today, and i didn't have to pay a garage £20+ an hour.

    Your guide is clear and easy to follow, if i can do it anybody can...

    Thank you sooooooooooo much..

    Lol no worries, and better than a Haynes thats made me feel good

    And it's probs better to get things like sockets and spanners from your local motor factors rather than wait for ebay, and the pinch bolts from citroen themselves if you've got one near
  23. #23
    cheers for the guide mate, ive just got some lemforder wishbones from euro's at £69.99 each (trade) will be fitting these soon
  24. #24
    Hi guys. First post so be gentle.
    Thanks to how easy this guide has made the job look I'm having a go myself tomorrow but I've never had the front of the car up on axel stands. I've had a quick look around for safe jacking points but want to clarify. What part of the wishbone do you use to initially raise the car, where the bush is bolted through or where the wishbone bolts through the floor on the rubber bit?

    Thanks in advance
  25. #25
    Where the bush is bolted through is fine to jack up mate. Then you can just put your axel stands on the jacking points
  26. #26
    Thanks, Chris.

    Job didn't go as planned today, old one came off fine but I cannot get the new one lined up no matter what order I fit the bolts. I've added some pics to show the difference in angle of the spur with the bush in (New left, old right). Have I got a dud part (eBay) or is it possible that the car's had a shunt in the past that could bend that part of the wishbone and the mount? Balljoint ends match up fine btw.


  27. #27
    That looks like a right pain. Looks like accident damage
  28. #28
    After comparing it to pics of other parts for sale on eBay I'm starting to think I've been sold a dud. At first I thought it was accident damage but I think the ball joint end of the arm would be first to bend plus it would be the old arm that was pointing back but it's the newer one that's the tighter angle.
  29. #29
    Great guide just be careful not to unplug the driveshaft from the gearbox when separating/refitting the ball joint!
  30. #30
    great guide thanks verymuch did mine following this last night
  31. #31
    I only need to do the front left one to get through an MOT, will it be ok to do just the left one?

    What is the complete list of parts needed for this? (not including tools)

    Thanks in advance
  32. #32
    Well it's advisable to do both, but you will get away with doing just one. Just make sure you keep an eye on the oldest one!

    And not including tools all you really need is a new pinchbolt for the balljoint, a member swampy off here can supply a good quality one or you can go to citroen for a shit quality one
  33. #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by debidodah View Post
    Your guide was soooooooooooooo helpful. My car failed it's MOT and i had to replace the wishbone, got my haynes manual, but that's mince compared to your guide.

    It did take me absolutely ages, wishbones off ebay, didn't have the right socket size 18mm (ebay), had to wait on pinch bolts (ebay), realised i needed a 18mm spanner (ebay). Eventually got the fecker sorted today, and i didn't have to pay a garage £20+ an hour.

    Your guide is clear and easy to follow, if i can do it anybody can...

    Thank you sooooooooooo much..
    i know it was posted ages ago but,

    best bet for tools is local shops. theyre cheap enough (couple of quid) and even if you're waiting on the bolt you can get the wishbones off in the meantime
  34. #34
    nice guide just what i've been looking for going to try do mines at the weekend
  35. #35
    First time I've done wishbones myself best guide I've seen,brilliant will recommend to anyone doing it for the first time
  36. #36
    Any advise given on what to look out for on wishbones and what to check to replace or any advise on when to change them as currently maybe need to change one on my car as its rusty and paint cracked. Is this just cosmetic and can get rust treatment done or is it jsut best to go grab 2 new wishbones and get them done?
  37. #37
    Just check to see if the bushes are worn. Check the nuts under the floor too. (footwell)

    Any knocking noises or out?
  38. #38
    When you check under the carpet you have to cut a little bit of sound proofing to get at the nuts. If its uncut, it'll mean they've never been replaced in the life if the car so chances are the bushes will be worn and you may as well replace them both.
  39. #39
    I notice that the bottom ballpoint has a curved part on the taper, should this have been in alight with the pinch bolt? I changed my driveshaft on the weekend and just put the ball joint and bolt back together without thinking.


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  40. #40
    It can only sit in one position, unless you knackered something