can you fit 13" deep dish on a SAXO vts (Now with picture)

1. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

   #1 2nd March 2010, 11:00

   im looking at some deep dish euro wheels and they are 13"
   would they fit?
   
   here is the spec:
   Metal Type: Aluminium
   Stud Diameter: 108
   Rim Width: 7J
   Rim Diameter: 13 inches
   Offset: -7
   Number of Studs: 4
   
   the tires on them are:
   165/55r13 70H
   
   and my car is lowerd 60mm front 75mm rear
2. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #2 2nd March 2010, 11:05

   youll need to remove the dust guards off the rear brakes
   and the offset is wrong youll need a spacer about 10mm thick i think to get them on (edit im wrong i didnt spot the minus on the et)
   
   look at davo on here
   he runs 13s
   they will look like there miles from the arches still though
   iirc davo is about 85 down all round and tbh it doesnt seem that low when you look rim to body gaps but the sills are extremely low
3. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

   #3 2nd March 2010, 11:05

   Are they -7 offset with spacers or as they are?
   I've ran ET0 on 7x15's before and they were on the arch limit. So those will sit 7mm further out. Tyres will prob be fairly stretched though, so should look good on yours!
4. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

   #4 2nd March 2010, 11:08

   I dont think they'll need spacers, that would make them sit even further out. Sounds like they are a fairly big dish on them to get them to -7 offset.
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 2nd March 2010, 11:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaxoAL I dont think they'll need spacers, that would make them sit even further out. Sounds like they are a fairly big dish on them to get them to -7 offset.

   see my edit man lol
   i fail
6. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

   #6 2nd March 2010, 11:13

   yeh thats the only thing i dont get with the -7
   yeh spacers would be fine. they are only for shows anyways and not my driving wheels and they will be painted.
   
   they are a real bargain tho here is the link:
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=220564241214
7. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

   #7 2nd March 2010, 11:24

   
8. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

   #8 2nd March 2010, 11:35

   very cheap! Love revolutions.
   If they are direct ford fit like they say, they will need to have the centre bore machined out from Ford (63mm) to Citroen 65.1mm.
   Negative offset sits further out than positive offset. +7 would sit closer in the arches then -7.
9. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

   #9 2nd March 2010, 11:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SaxoAL very cheap! Love revolutions. If they are direct ford fit like they say, they will need to have the centre bore machined out from Ford (63mm) to Citroen 65.1mm. Negative offset sits further out than positive offset. +7 would sit closer in the arches then -7.

   what would you think about spacers would i need them?
   
   where could i get them machined would you know?
10. blackvtrt Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Newcastle/ Billingham Posts: 1873 02 Gold Cleaned OEM+ VTR

    #10 2nd March 2010, 17:01

    u've got two options, either buy ford to cit spacers normally 20mm to correct the centre bore or machine the centre bore. Personally i would machine the front and use spacers on the rear to get them sitting right. Would need coilovers to make them look good aswell.
11. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

    #11 2nd March 2010, 17:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackvtrt u've got two options, either buy ford to cit spacers normally 20mm to correct the centre bore or machine the centre bore. Personally i would machine the front and use spacers on the rear to get them sitting right. Would need coilovers to make them look good aswell.

    would that mean my car would sit lower or higher?
    
    and would changing to smaller wheels effect my speedo?
    
    and would 13" clear my calipers?
12. chrisvtr1989 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 dunstable, luton Posts: 1563 mk2vtr

    #12 2nd March 2010, 17:21

    your not low enough to pull off a set of 13's. they will clear callipers cause you will have to run 20mm spacers(ford offdet)
13. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

    #13 2nd March 2010, 17:28

    how low do i need to go tp pull them off? oviously coilovers on front and maybe another notch on the rear beam
14. chrisvtr1989 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 dunstable, luton Posts: 1563 mk2vtr

    #14 2nd March 2010, 17:32

    im down 80-85mm on 14s with a fair bit of stretch, mine sits fine( a few mm too high on the front imo..) you will have to come down around 90mm imo.
    do not lower the back using 'notch' method, unless you want rear camber that is..
    
    you say there your show wheels, if you go low to pull off the 13s, you wont get your vts wheels back on without issues
15. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

    #15 2nd March 2010, 17:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisvtr1989 im down 80-85mm on 14s with a fair bit of stretch, mine sits fine( a few mm too high on the front imo..) you will have to come down around 90mm imo. do not lower the back using 'notch' method, unless you want rear camber that is.. you say there your show wheels, if you go low to pull off the 13s, you wont get your vts wheels back on without issues

    yeh thats what i was thinking
    i throught it would just be getting a jack under the car but if i was lower my rear would be fine but ill have to keep adjusting my coilovers
16. chrisvtr1989 Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 dunstable, luton Posts: 1563 mk2vtr

    #16 2nd March 2010, 17:43

    only option is to run the 13s day to day, but practicality???
    if you havent bought them already(im guessing you have,but..) i would consider a different 'show' wheel
17. FisherVTS Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 Milton keynes Posts: 1633 Saxo 1.6 16v VTS

    #17 2nd March 2010, 17:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrisvtr1989 only option is to run the 13s day to day, but practicality??? if you havent bought them already(im guessing you have,but..) i would consider a different 'show' wheel

    yeh already got them lol
    nah defo wanted to roll on deep dish 13"s but just the usaul problems to deal with now
18. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

    #18 2nd March 2010, 20:01

    lol do it you'll be fine day to day.
19. robtwotone Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 worthing Posts: 705 mauritius blue saxo vts two tone vtr classic mi

    #19 2nd March 2010, 22:01

    for an every day wheel just an old set of 13" steels will do