make my vtr faster

3rd March 2010, 01:57

what sort of stuff can i do to make it go faster at a decent price

3rd March 2010, 07:55

Theres got to be a million threads on this topic! Please search!

Edit: Theres even an FAQ called "How to improve the Saxo's performance?" in the FAQ tab at the top of the page.

3rd March 2010, 07:59

Hahaha for fucks sake.

Awaits funny replies. Might have to subscribe to this.

In answer to your question, racing stripes, 8 subwoofers and sparco pedals is your answer my man (Y)

3rd March 2010, 07:59

Decat exhaust system
4-2-1 manifold
Enclosed Induction kit
Cams
Remap
Headwork
Throttle bodies
Turbo
Supercharger
Strip the car out
Lighter panels

Etc etc - start with the first 3 things I listed though.

3rd March 2010, 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Decat exhaust system
4-2-1 manifold
Enclosed Induction kit
Cams
Remap
Headwork
Throttle bodies
Turbo
Supercharger
Strip the car out
Lighter panels

Etc etc - start with the first 3 things I listed though.

This.

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58507

Look at the title of that thread, please, and in particular the part in brackets.

3rd March 2010, 09:01

You can fit a prehemoglobin valve to the fuel line which up the fuel pressure giving you an extra 5-8bhp

3rd March 2010, 09:10

VTS engine

3rd March 2010, 09:25

I must learn to refrain from posting inappropiate comments.

3rd March 2010, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by sm02_saxo

This.

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58507

Look at the title of that thread, please, and in particular the part in brackets.

ahah yeah look in brackets

3rd March 2010, 10:45

Infact, if you have a VTR engine then just drop a VTS engine in. Instant 18 or 30bhp and could be done for the price of a 4-2-1 manifold if you are lucky.

3rd March 2010, 12:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saxo_vtr

Infact, if you have a VTR engine then just drop a VTS engine in. Instant 18 or 30bhp and could be done for the price of a 4-2-1 manifold if you are lucky.

listen to this guy. if you want to go faster, get more horses

3rd March 2010, 12:17

where can i get a s engine then ?

3rd March 2010, 12:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

listen to this guy. if you want to go faster, get more horses

Actually stripping makes more of a difference then just more power

3rd March 2010, 12:27

where can i get a s lump from
and how does it work with insurance

3rd March 2010, 12:33

Tell dvla you swapped engines then tell the insurance company

3rd March 2010, 12:35

are does the insurance go up by much?
where can i get the lump from?

3rd March 2010, 12:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom

Tell dvla you swapped engines then tell the insurance company

but would this be called a engine transplant/conversion?

3rd March 2010, 12:41

get a quote from insurance before you do it. i doubt youd be able to afford the insurance.

3rd March 2010, 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

but would this be called a engine transplant/conversion?

yes it is

3rd March 2010, 12:42

Insurance will go up loads yes it is a conversion :bang:

3rd March 2010, 12:43

insurance will be higher then just insuring a vts.

god these threads are so shite!!!!!!!!

CAN YOU PEOPLE USE A FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3rd March 2010, 12:45

engine conversion at not allowed from august/september 2009 have to get a garage or a qualified mechanic to do the job

3rd March 2010, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

insurance will be higher then just insuring a vts.

god these threads are so shite!!!!!!!!

CAN YOU PEOPLE USE A FUCKING SEARCH BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

though this what forums are for people to ask questions and get answers and shouting and swearing just make poeple get +ucked off

3rd March 2010, 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

engine conversion at not allowed from august/september 2009 have to get a garage or a qualified mechanic to do the job

Iam a qulified mechanic so ll good.

3rd March 2010, 12:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

though this what forums are for people to ask questions and get answers and shouting and swearing just make poeple get +ucked off

so everyday the same question gets answered.
Its because of people with your attitude that drives people away and not answer questions.
the search button is there to use now use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3rd March 2010, 12:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

though this what forums are for people to ask questions and get answers and shouting and swearing just make poeple get +ucked off

another retard that doesn't know the difference between thought and though?

3rd March 2010, 12:50

do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?

3rd March 2010, 12:52

what happened was people did the engine conversion eg 1.2 spi then put 2litre/1600 16 valve2.5 v6/3.0 v6/3.2 v6 into the spi but did not tell the insurance and did not change log book so they were still insuring it as a 1.2

3rd March 2010, 12:53

FFS search

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=236140

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84099

3rd March 2010, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

so everyday the same question gets answered.
Its because of people with your attitude that drives people away and not answer questions.
the search button is there to use now use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

care to explain this?

3rd March 2010, 12:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

Iam a qulified mechanic so ll good.

how many years experience?

3rd March 2010, 12:55

only 3
but iv driven some cars i had a go at my mates vts turbo that was good fun
and he also had a vts befor that witch was all cammed and everything

3rd March 2010, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

care to explain this?

omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

how many years experience?

3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell

3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.

i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.

3rd March 2010, 12:59

lol

3rd March 2010, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell

3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.

i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.

so can a noob strip down rebuild his/my engine and strip down and rebuild the complete front suspension and tune my engine no one else just me also could a noob flat and polish alloy parts to a mirror finish

3rd March 2010, 13:03

Welcome to the site mate.

As mentioned please try to use the search button to answer generic questions. If there is something you are still unsure of please feel free to ask.

Don't be put of by knobs that know more than you do. They tend to get banned from the site

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

get a quote from insurance before you do it. i doubt youd be able to afford the insurance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell

3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.

i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.

cya x

3rd March 2010, 13:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

so can a noob strip down rebuild his/my engine and strip down and rebuild the complete front suspension and tune my engine no one else just me also could a noob flat and polish alloy parts to a mirror finish

eg combustion cambers/piston crown exhaust port/ built my own custom exhaust/ do welding/paint spraying

3rd March 2010, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

eg combustion cambers/piston crown exhaust port/ built my own custom exhaust/ do welding/paint spraying

and build induction kit

3rd March 2010, 13:09

do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?

3rd March 2010, 13:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_jones_401

do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?

Looks like a bargain if you can get proof of milage and see it running or turning over

3rd March 2010, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

omg............................................... .banghead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 years at college studying motor vehicle repair maintanance and servicing at city and guilds,came out with motor vehicle tech quali aswell

3 years experience in garages and 10+ doing stuff on me own and 4 years working on high speed train's although that has nothing to do with you what so ever and nothing to do with this thread.

i suggest you leanr abit more about this site as you clearly are a noob.

been in the car trade since 1986

3rd March 2010, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by littleracer

Actually stripping makes more of a difference then just more power

Okay, generally the question was how to make my VTR faster.. simple answer is to swap engines to the VTS. You can pick them up on ebay for around £375 mate. And i agree with what you say 'littleracer' by stripping down your car reduces the weight. The weight really only has an effect from 0-60, anything after that is down to mostly wind resistance and aerodynamics.

sweet for banning him he was beginning to piss me off. We don't care how you went to your little college and learnt to be a mechanic. your amazing. ;/ not

3rd March 2010, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_jones_401

do you thing this engine is any good i think ill be ok with insurance money
http://www.streetrace.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2145
what els would i need?

1. That post was from 2004 mate. Wouldn't think the engine is still up for sale mate. Sorry.
2. You will need the wiring loom, ecu etc.. try and get all of this together which will make the conversion alot easier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

Looks like a bargain if you can get proof of milage and see it running or turning over

Yea looks like the post is dated ages ago

3rd March 2010, 13:24

so back to the op question how much faster can you/me make the vtr

3rd March 2010, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

1. That post was from 2004 mate. Wouldn't think the engine is still up for sale mate. Sorry.
2. You will need the wiring loom, ecu etc.. try and get all of this together which will make the conversion alot easier.

Yea looks like the post is dated ages ago

ops thanks for spoting that mate

3rd March 2010, 13:28

with the standard VTR engine ? budget? - How much money have you got to spend

3rd March 2010, 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

Okay, generally the question was how to make my VTR faster.. simple answer is to swap engines to the VTS. You can pick them up on ebay for around £375 mate. And i agree with what you say 'littleracer' by stripping down your car reduces the weight. The weight really only has an effect from 0-60, anything after that is down to mostly wind resistance and aerodynamics.

sweet for banning him he was beginning to piss me off. We don't care how you went to your little college and learnt to be a mechanic. your amazing. ;/ not

of course weight doesnt only effect accelertaion, it also effects braking cornering turn in etc.

I bet your life is amazing too.NOT

3rd March 2010, 13:29

yer its been decated and dont no if anything els has been done
iv got about 3-4 k to spend

3rd March 2010, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

been in the car trade since 1986

and still know nothing?

3rd March 2010, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_jones_401

ops thanks for spoting that mate

Have a look at a few of these mate. On ebay you can purchase these pretty much today if you have the money:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-1...item3a5814a29e

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-Saxo-1...item3caaadec0b

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/106-GTi-Saxo-V...item27af5738b9

Just make sure you check the mileage on the engines.

3rd March 2010, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristel10589

of course weight doesnt only effect accelertaion, it also effects braking cornering turn in etc.

I bet your life is amazing too.NOT

i love you, my life is probably better than yours considering you can't spell acceleration.

im off to grab some food. x

3rd March 2010, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by kristel10589

and still know nothing?

if i know nothing how did i do a complete strip down and rebuild of my engine front suspension also ported and polished my own cylinder head have lots of photos of me doing this plus loads of other jobs on my car as well also if i knew nothing then my car would not have gone though the mot and passed

3rd March 2010, 13:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

if i know nothing how did i do a complete strip down and rebuild of my engine front suspension also ported and polished my own cylinder head have lots of photos of me doing this plus loads of other jobs on my car as well also if i knew nothing then my car would not have gone though the mot and passed

how do you fit ur head through the door at night?

3rd March 2010, 13:41

FYI guys, Kristel is also littleracer in a skirt.

If either give you any abuse please let me know.

Craig

3rd March 2010, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajdsaxo

how do you fit ur head through the door at night?

if you mean cylinder head strip of ancillary components when all that is taken off then undo cylinder head bolts with torque ratchet then remove cylinder head then strip down cylinder head it self to components parts then port it then flat and polish combustion cambers/exhaust ports then remove pistons and flat and polish piston crowns

3rd March 2010, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_jones_401

yer its been decated and dont no if anything els has been done
iv got about 3-4 k to spend

what else would you like to do to your engine and could you do any of these jobs your self just to cut down on the overall cost with out compromising quality

3rd March 2010, 13:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

Looks like a bargain if you can get proof of milage and see it running or turning over

I personally wouln't buy an engine from a site called "street race"...
Just my 2p..

3rd March 2010, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdrightup

if you mean cylinder head strip of ancillary components when all that is taken off then undo cylinder head bolts with torque ratchet then remove cylinder head then strip down cylinder head it self to components parts then port it then flat and polish combustion cambers/exhaust ports then remove pistons and flat and polish piston crowns

So after you finish porting the head, do you put it on a flowbench to see if you have made any improvement? Or are you just taking a wild stab in the dark

3rd March 2010, 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by lukee_VTR

So after you finish porting the head, do you put it on a flowbench to see if you have made any improvement? Or are you just taking a wild stab in the dark

no wild stab in the dark, drove the car loads before porting and the same after
and after porting goes really well just like it is a completely different engine
to easy to cruise at 4,000 rpm /4,500 rpm in 5th

3rd March 2010, 16:49

cool cool