Important! : Adjusted the brake pedal now have a problem!

1. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #1 7th March 2010, 11:35

   basically i adjusted the brake pedal this morning due to having loads of play in it and before i had noticed a slight noise when putting the brake pedal down slowly a sort of click noise and only from the drives caliper. now i have adjusted the brake pedal it is even louder and more frequent. Anyone had this before and what can i do to solve it. the brakes work really well so no problems but god i hate having a noise when i dont know what it is!!! Help me please any ideas would be perfect
   
   Thanks
2. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #2 7th March 2010, 11:54

   anyone got any ideas? i need to have some things to check as i need the noise sorted
3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 7th March 2010, 11:57

   well have a look at the caliper when someone is pressing the brake pedal to make the noise.
   
   Could be a sticky slider pin
   
   Maybe you've over tightened the brake bar? Do the brakes bind now ?
4. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #4 7th March 2010, 11:59

   i have looked when someone is pushing the pedal but couldnt see anything. what is the slider pin? nah the brakes dont bind there good now but honestly i cant stand this noise, if i knew what it was i wouldnt care :/
5. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #5 7th March 2010, 12:29

   anyone know where the slide pin is and how i check if its sticking
6. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #6 7th March 2010, 13:19

   bump
7. Bigknutts Newbie Joined: Feb 2010 sussex Posts: 24 1997 vts blue

   #7 7th March 2010, 13:29

   I believe the slide pin or pins are the two pins the caliper slides along there's normaly rubber sleaves over them them to stop ingress of dirt sounds more like the noise could be comming from the pedal itself check the connection at the top of the pedal.
8. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #8 7th March 2010, 14:11

   dont bump a thread after an hour, pins are as of above post
9. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

   #9 7th March 2010, 15:00

   well seing as its important and its to do with the brakes i thought it was fine. didnt hurt anyone but if my brakes were fucked could have got bad
10. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #10 7th March 2010, 15:01

    the noise is diffinatly from the caliper but i feel the noise as it happens in the pedal sort of tick in the pedal aswel.
11. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #11 7th March 2010, 15:07

    is it worth me taking the caliper off and giving it a damn good clean and fit new pads back on?
12. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #12 7th March 2010, 15:09

    you could always try
13. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #13 7th March 2010, 15:10

    ok will do what did the person mean about the brake pedal connection?
14. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #14 7th March 2010, 15:10

    Caliper bolts nice and tight?
    
    Any play in the wheel at all?
15. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #15 7th March 2010, 15:12

    i could always check the bolts but they seemed good and there isnt any play in the wheel.
16. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #16 7th March 2010, 15:13

    They need to be TIGHT and should have threadlock aswell ideally.
17. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #17 7th March 2010, 15:15

    ok i think they are really tight tho it only happens when u put the foot on the pedal slowly. how can i check the slide pins to see if they are sticking? and how can i clean them up?
18. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #18 7th March 2010, 15:17

    Take the bolts out that hold them in. You can't really miss them.
    
    Personally I'd just strip it al down as you suggested. Grease the slider pins back up, you can't miss them. Two bolts holding them in iirc.
19. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #19 7th March 2010, 15:19

    ok there is a small plate on them aswel is this right? how do the bolts come out? are there the ones holding the caliper to the hub?
20. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #20 7th March 2010, 15:40

    are the sliding pins the pins that secure the caliper in aswel? or is that something different
21. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #21 7th March 2010, 18:09

    They secure the caliper to the yoke yes.
    
    Then the yoke is bolted to the hub.
22. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #22 7th March 2010, 19:53

    erm sorry could you explain that please. what is the yoke :/
23. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #23 7th March 2010, 20:04

    anyone explain what the yoke is please
24. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #24 7th March 2010, 20:11

    It's the caliper carrier.
    
    The carrier (yoke) is bolted to the hub (2 x 19mm bolts iirc)
    
    The caliper is bolted to the yoke by it's slider pins. 13mm possibly?
25. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #25 7th March 2010, 20:12

    Could even be an allen key thinking about it
26. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #26 7th March 2010, 20:14

    ok will this be in my haynes manual or do u have a pic at all
27. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #27 7th March 2010, 20:16

    Yerh it'll be in the haynes manual.
    
    if you get under there and have a look it'll be quite clear.
    
    2 19mm bolts hold th yoke to the hub and then 2 more bolts hold the caliper to the yoke via the slider pins. they've usually got plugs covering them to stop dirt and crud getting in there.
28. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #28 7th March 2010, 20:19

    ok so undo the 2-19mm bolts and will the caliper be able to come off the hub? then can i find the other 2 bolts
29. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #29 7th March 2010, 20:23

    Can leave the yoke bolted to the hub.
    
    Just undo the two other bolts for the sliding pins.
30. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #30 7th March 2010, 20:25

    ok and they are the 13mm ones? are they easy to see then? and will anything fall off when i undo the bolts? im guessing i just clean up the sliding bolts and where they came from then grease them back up and torque them back in?
31. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #31 7th March 2010, 20:28

    ive been told there allen key heads with rubber caps on. is this right? i just undo them and clean them up then?
32. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #32 7th March 2010, 20:59

    Ok, if i were you i would just do it and have a go without asking a question about each and every aspect. it should be fairly common sense if somethig is going to fall off. if not just hold the caliper etc.
33. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #33 7th March 2010, 21:09

    erm ok well when it comes to brakes its a bit more important. yeh im going to have a go but if there is a chance something will go wrong i will get someone else to do it. i just dont want to fuck it up and be feft with more trouble
34. user_30728 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2009 st.austell Posts: 2549 106 quiksilver

    #34 7th March 2010, 22:02

    Jesus just take it to a garage and get them to see!
35. user_39821 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2009 Uckfield, East Sussex Posts: 3362 Citroen saxo 1.4 furio

    #35 7th March 2010, 22:44

    probably a safe bet if you hadn't checked your Haynes before consulting the forum
36. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #36 8th March 2010, 19:35

    i have checked the haynes manual but couldnt find the slide pins but its all sorted today so thanks for those that offered there help
37. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #37 8th March 2010, 19:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robbie-woods i have checked the haynes manual but couldnt find the slide pins but its all sorted today so thanks for those that offered there help

    what was wrong with it ?
38. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #38 8th March 2010, 20:31

    the slider pins covered in dirt and stopping them moving freely. sound like a problem?
39. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #39 8th March 2010, 20:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by robbie-woods the slider pins covered in dirt and stopping them moving freely. sound like a problem?

    not ideal - clean them up, regrease them and job done
40. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #40 8th March 2010, 20:36

    okey dokey i am going to take the caliper off at the same time and clean that up to
41. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #41 8th March 2010, 21:35

    is there a thread on the slide pins then?
42. Robbie-Flat-Arch Established Member Joined: Jan 2010 Haywards Heath Posts: 2143 Saxo 1.1 desire

    #42 18th March 2010, 12:34

    after trying loads of different things to cure the noise im still lost!! i took a video today and im trying to load it up at the moment shouldnt take to long. i did notice tho that i can move the pad then its in the caliper on the car is that bad and could this be part of a problem with it moving when my foot is on the brakes?